Buzzflash: "It Will Be Karl Rove, not the Dems, who brings down Tom DeLay"

[Nothing Without Hope]

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It Will be Karl Rove Who Brings Down Tom DeLay, Not the Democrats.
A BUZZFLASH EDITORIAL, April 11, 2005

Oh, yes, there were three House ethics rebukes of Tom DeLay, before he "restructured" the committee so that they couldn't charge him with more unethical behavior. And there's a Democratic Texas D.A. who appears to be within a couple of inches of indicting the reptile from Sugarland. And the Justice Department and House Indian Affairs Committee are investigating activities by lobbyist Jack Abramoff, a lobbyist tied at the hip to DeLay.

(snip)

And on a Sunday morning news interview show, Rick "Man/Dog" Santorum, a GOP model hypocrite who was one of Gingrich's brown shirts in the House, was even calling on DeLay to come clean. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42422-2005Apr10.html)

(snip)

Considering the free ride Bush's lapses in honesty and executive branch corruption have been given by the mainstream media, you have to wonder why there's such a press pile-up on DeLay. It's fully justified, but why DeLay? I mean the Republican one-party government is crawling with errant snakes.

Well, we said it about the media frenzy surrounding Trent Lott's lauding of Strom Thurmond and we'll say it about Tom DeLay. It's not the Democrats that will bring down Tom DeLay; it's the Executive Branch and the White House that are leaking like a sieve. Karl Rove's fingerprints are all over this knife.

DeLay has forgotten the golden rule: George W. Bush comes before any Republican's personal agenda or power play.

(snip - more at link)

This is what I expect as well. DeLay's hubris and, perhaps, insanity have made him dangerous to the public image of the administration, so the axe will fall. Of course, that doesn't mean they won't try to blame the Dems for DeLay's fall. But every day seems to bring another story of a GOP stalwart or conservative publication saying negative things about DeLay - they wouldn't do that without being instructed to do so. And we know who handles the PR Wurlitzer for the blivet**.

[kaitykaity]

1. Yeah we're trying to figure out what DeLay will do

when the WH tosses him.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3459018

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. I hear Jack Abramoff

is pissed off and running his mouth.

This could get interesting. I think this is why the DEMS have been laying low since the last selection. Get out of the way and let the Repugs turn on themselves.

At this point, the only thing the Great Karl Rove is doing is damage control. He didn't want to lose his best bulldog but when someone starts to hurt W, it's time for them to go. That's Okay. Delay is just the first of many. The next few months will probably be a bit bloody.

[Nothing Without Hope]

10. Oh yes - that's part of it, mentioned in this editorial and the starting

point for an interesting discussion in this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1383901
Thread title: 'Delay Knew Everything. He Knew All the Details.'

[radfringe]

2. ignored by bush*? DeLay is going down....

DeLay's Backers Launch Offense
Conservatives Say GOP Is Threatened
By Mike Allen -- Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, April 10, 2005; Page A04
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40496-2005Apr9.html

---snip---

When Bush was asked Friday about DeLay's comments that judges are out of control and should be held accountable, the president replied that he believes in "an independent judiciary." He said nothing about DeLay.

[dbt]

5. bu$hler believes in "an independent judiciary?" Like HELL!

Unless, of course, he refers to the Five Independents who elected his sorry ass.

[patricia92243]

3. But the Dems are the ones who have exposed the truth and made the

Republicans look bad. KKK will just be doing the dirty deed.

[jmcon007]

4. DeLay is probably the most hated man in Congress.....

Unless his mother is still alive, I don't know how anyone could keep from despising the bastard.
I live in Oklahoma and when he pulled that Texas redistricting powerplay a couple of years ago the Texas Dems hauled ass to Oklahoma so the Texas state legislature wouldn't have a quorum to legally vote.
DeLay contacted the FAA and other Feds trying to stop them, which was illegal. He's a typical neonut who thinks he's above the law and it's going to be nice seeing him get his hat handed to him by Republicans themselves.

[opihimoimoi]

6. Its amazing guys like DeLuded phuck it up all by themselves then

Blame others when the music stops and a chair is missing.

DeLuded is an Arrogant Idiot Gone Wild....Outta control....

Now he will pay the price.....

Soon he will join Newt in the sidelines but won't get public appearances on TV as a commentator nor anything else. He will be MOOT.

He has no one to blame but himself.

[Donailin]

8. I don't think I buy this.

that whole shiavo/activist judges/nuclear option is a carefully coordinated set up by Rove, they simply didn't plan on Delay getting scrutinized to this degree.

Whatever happens next, it will be coordinated so that the dems look like disgruntled petty losers, if this is possible. I just don't see how Rove will make the party look good by cutting Delay loose. And that's his job, to make the party look good by setting up the dems.

[Nothing Without Hope]

9. It may be that all the drawing back from DeLay now is a precaution

by the administration to try to distance itself from provable ethics violations - the reek of corruption around DeLay is now so strong and so notorious that he may not be salvageable. They may also try to spin it that any embarrassing GOP scandals that turn up are really all his fault, that the administration is blameless.

If is also possible that the new GOP coolness to DeLay is a WARNING to him to follow orders more closely or be expelled from the center of power. But I think that the relative openness to criticism of him in the Major Media - so unusual for powerful Repubs in this carefully managed arena - is the beginning of the end for the DeLay's reign of corruption and terror. The admnistration will commence its highly hypocritical holier-than-thou act, I predict. They need at least the appearance of fighting corruption in their ranks, and they'll get what use from DeLay that they can.

The fact is, he's a loose cannon and he is notorious. He's making them look bad. And his special talents as a feared and brutal bully and past fundraiser may not be so valuable to them any more anyway. Maybe they can get some use out of him as a sort of FLYPAPER to stick and remove as much scandal from the appearance of the party as possible. When he goes, they will want him to take all the reek with him if they can manage it. From statements being made - and pointed silences - this angle has already been launched.

[dbt]

12. Well said, NWH! Stay away from small aircraft!!

[Lerkfish]

14. "notorious" is the key word here...just like the Mafia, when one becomes

TOO well-known, the capos don't like it, and they end up in exploding cadillacs or beaten to death and buried in Indiana cornfields.

Its not that Delay pulled this stuff, its that this stuff failed in a highly visible way...AND that Bush got smeared along with the bad news by canceling his vacation to sign the thing.

Notice how quickly after the poll results and the resulting poodle press barking that Bush backpedaled from the schiavo fiasco. Delay needed to take heed at that point, but since he didn't, he KEPT the fiasco simmering in the news way too long.

[Donailin]

20. Exactly.

>>The admnistration will commence its highly hypocritical holier-than-thou act, I predict<<

It will be intersting to observe how many folks but it. Again.

[Kber]

15. How will dumping DeLay make the party look good?

It will be a token "stand up to the religious right" just in time for the 2006 elections ("See, we can me moderates.")

But, having Santorom do the dirty work is a wink to those same right wingnuts ("See, your boys are still in control.")

[rocktivity]

11. You owe me a royalty, Buzzflash!

There's only room for one Godfather among the Busheviks; and Tom DeLay, not content to have the Congress as his concession and stay in the background, is stepping on Karl Rove's carefully crafted image of Bush.

DeLay is stepping on Karl Rove, period.

I posted this yesterday:

...you've been through since April 2, when Dick Cheney said in a very rare press conference that he didn't think your remarks about judges were "appropriate"...that's why you've been getting a monsoon of bad press since...

I think it's too late for you to get out of this gracefully...You think that because you hold the purse strings, the GOP has no choice but to buck the Bush White House if necessary in order to defend your (dis)honor...

And this barely an hour ago:

The Greeks called it "hubris," which means "arrogance unto the gods"...Cheney said what he did to let DeLay know that he'd f*cked up. But the f*ckup wasn't that DeLay spoke out against the judges. By also threatening to withold support from his fellow GOP-ers, DeLay displayed arrogance unto "the gods"--Cheney and Rove...

As with Terri's Schiavo's freeper Jesus-freak show, this can't be blamed on Dems, so the MSM have nothing else to focus on. Pass the popcorn, inedeed!

:popcorn:
rocknation

[KittyWampus]

13. Buzzflash Gets It Partly Wrong. Rove Did NOT Start This. Texas GOP Did

There were Paleo-Cons in Texas who want Delay out.

Yes, partly cause of image but also disgust.

IMO, White House & Rove stuck with Delay as long as possible.

In fact, I think this is evidence that there ARE GOP'ers starting to stand up to Rove.

Once again, people give Rove too much credit.

[nickgutierrez]

16. It won't matter who brings DeLay down.

It'll look like, and in fact will be, a much-needed win for the Democrats.

[applegrove]

17. Why would Dems want Tom Delay to go quickly? Rove will bring

him down really quick so Delay does not cause damage by showing Repukes the caricatures they really are.

We need a year long investigation, etc. That is why Dems are not jumping on this. It is written in stone that he will go down. The longer it takes..the more people will be shown the truth about their Repuke leaders.

[Lugnut]

18. I want him around for a while

And just long enough for the stink to stick to his whole party.

[Nothing Without Hope]

19. kick for more discussion n/t