George Allen (R-VA) sticks his foot in his mouth

[MADem]

...and his head up his ASS! Talk about FODDER to be used against him!!!!! http://www.sundaymorningtalk.com/smt/2005/05/sen_allen_sell_.html

Senator George Allen (R-VA) may have gotten in a bit over his head, this morning, on Meet the Press. On private accounts, he suggested that Americans might have to sell their homes to survive in retirement. But, that would be a good thing, because they wouldn't have to trim hedges and cut grass, he noted.

In fact, he was trying to reassure people who are uncomfortable about investing in the stock market with private accounts. So, he recognized that those who do, might reduce their retirement savings in the event of a market downturn (I hear those happen once in awhile). But, he thinks allowing your own home to be your investment would get around that. Although, it would force you to sell it when you retire in order to feed yourself.

Then, he said he didn't support President Bush's plan to cut benefits for the middle class, quickly trying to back out of it.

I love these GOP assholes. Shit, if they restrict access to birth control and abortion, won't these geezers be needing those big houses to raise the grandkids of those who get up the pole at an early age, to say nothing of the kids of the dead who served in Iraq and Afghanistan? And won't those kids be happy to trim those hedges and mow that lawn to help grammy and gramps out?

Clueless, stupid bastard. He is as much as saying that geezers do not have the RIGHT to stay in their homes anymore. Already, in Massachusetts, under Mitt the Shit Romney, they have shitcanned the "circuit breaker" protection for a large percentage of geezers by limiting the value of the homes that qualify for it. Thus, if gramma and gramps bought their house for $25K, have lived in it all their lives, but because of insane prices, it is now valued at $490K, they don't get the circuit breaker tax rebate--which is about eight or nine hundred bucks, to help with their taxes.

Fucking assholes! I cannot STAND the GOP...they disrespect the old, the poor, the weak and the defenseless...simply because they CAN.

[Southsideirish]

1. What an idjit!

[wolfgirl]

3. Idiot? I don't

think they are even that smart...idiot would be a compliment to these yahoos!

[MADem]

5. The scumbag looks like Howdy Doody!

And Howdy, frankly, had more brains!

[Arugula Latte]

7. What is the deal with

these wingers who are white-guys-with-chubby-faces-and-helmet-hair?

They all look like Baptist ministers to me.

[leftofthedial]

18. they all come from the same factory

as the Baptist ministers

[ClassWarrior]

37. Not an idiot. A criminal.

A smart, ruthless, blood-thirsty, power-hungry, profit-mad criminal.

Read Sun Tsu.

NGU.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. These words should be used

and quoted whenever a person starts a discussion about SS. Let the seniors and other concerned citizens out there know where the GOP really stands.

[patricia92243]

4. Foot in mouth is an underatatement. Now if Democrats would USE this gift

from God - but they won't. And if the press would give it coverage - but they won't .

[rndmprsn]

6. so frustrating...

i watched MTP this morning too and my jaw was hanging when mr allen suggested that...and then he tried to distance himself from bushco's plan.

UGH...if only if only.

[Griffy]

27. The press dont cover the dems if they speak truth!

On C-span I have seen many dems speak truth on the floor, but to no avail....

I'm going here...

http://www.freepress.net/conference/

[MuseRider]

8. But this is good!

These dolts they are shopping out to speak are too stupid, they open their pie holes and say exactly what they mean and what the party says behind closed doors. That is one reason that the more Bush** talks the better off we are. They are idiots and assholes, we need the assholes who are off the chart idiots out there speaking more.

[patricia92243]

9. This would be the nail in Bush's coffin. I wish others would nominate it

for the front page.

[Cha]

11. Just did!

It's an important revelation.

[Cha]

10. Thanks, this is good to see that

the ol' Virginia Senator's alligator mouth was no match for his slug infested brain.

[spooky3]

12. Where are the elderly supposed to live if they sell their houses?

And I wish the word "geezer" would not be used. We don't use the n word for African Americans, and "geezer" is an insulting term too.

[MO_Dem]

13. I guess we can live in the cars parked in the driveways

that we can't buy gasoline for anymore. Recycling our cars into homes! That's the ticket! It will be a good thing!

[Virginian]

33. Warren Buffet warns of real estate "bubble"

And when they can get nothing for their homes, then what?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1438631

In a Bush economy, you can't depend on anything retaining its value. Even the money under the mattress is not safe. It can be erroded by high inflation.

[MADem]

35. Hey, I am a geezer!!!!

A proud geezer, I will have you know!! The delight of being a geezer is that you can also be a curmudgeon...it is one of the few rewards of aging!

[patricia92243]

14. Rosh would be all over this if it were a Democrat. Will our guys on AAR

even mention it.

The fact that this is not all over this forum speaks volumns.:(

[tsuki]

15. I would love for my Mother to get a place where she didn't have

to cut grass and trim bushes. But, that is her decision, not George Allen's or George Bush's or any other George out there. It is her decision.

[paineinthearse]

16. What exactly, in the eyes of VA voters, qualified Allen to be elected?

Besides having a famous daddy.

[Virginian]

19. Don't blame me

I told everyone in 2000 not to vote for ANYONE named GEORGE. I wanted to put up a sign, "Don't vote for George, George can't handle the job."

I thought it would apply to both sons of Georges running that year, but unfortunately both namesakes of previously famous Georges won.
In both cases, I think name recognition added to their votes.

(Let's run Ron Reagan for something.)

[specimenfred1984]

23. They're Bigots, I Live in VA and It's That Simple

Good ole southern BIGOTS.

I wish people would call them that a lot more than they do. The half-assed town I live near just took down the Confederate flag 2 years ago.

Why do I stay? It's really pretty here, especially this time of year but lately I've been thinking real hard about moving.

[MADem]

36. Hah, like they "count" the "votes" when it means a Senate majority

for them????

[Virginian]

17. He could be the Presidential candidate in 08.

George Allen is the son of former Redskin Head Coach George Allen. He is a former Governor of VA and a first term Senator. He is up for re-election in 2006.

I want him to lose.

I don't think he has ever lost anything in his life. Silver Spoon, smirk boy has had everything he has ever wanted. He has no concept of how real people live. He is a neo-con in the tradition of George Bush.

The only person I think can beat Allen in the 2006 election is current Governor Mark Warner. Warner's term ends in January and in the Commonwealth of Virginia, a Governor cannot serve consecutive terms.

Mark Warner is one of the best Governors we have had lately. He has been able to work with a dominant Republican State assembly and has managed to get some positive bills passed. Mark Warner was not responsible for some of the stupid bills you have heard proposed in this state. He has had to compromise, but he hasn't stooped that low.

Because of Gov. Warner, Virginia is ranked one of the best managed states in the union. He has had to make cuts due to the federal cuts imposed by Bushco, but he has managed to keep the state in good working order.

We need to get George Allen out of the Senate. If Allen stays in office he will only get stronger. We have to stop him NOW!!! if we don't he may get put into a higher office and none of us wants George Allen to have that much power over normal, working people. He has no idea what life is like for real people. He shouldn't make laws for us.

[Blue Topaz]

20. Well, any Dem running against this clown in 2006

has just been handed fabulous campaign ad fodder. I can see the commercials now: "Why does George Allen want retired seniors to lose their homes?"

[blue neen]

21. I like the way you think.

That would be excellent for his opponent's ad campaign!

[Daphne08]

31. George Allen as President?

:wtf: Gawd protect us!

[Doctor_J]

22. I think Allen may be the heir apparent

from what I've seen of him, he's almost as stupid as Smirk. He would be a project worthy of the MSM - see if they could help him beat Clark, or Edwards, or another one of our brilliant statesmen.

[Virginian]

32. That is why he has to go! -- DNC, please help us!!

He has to be defeated in 06. If not, the neo-cons will run him as their puppet when smirk is done.
With the government controlled by PNAC, the President does not have to be smart. He just needs to fall in line and do as they tell him. The people behind the scenes will take care of everything else.

Please DNC - put some effort into getting rid of this guy!!! He is not good for our state, he is not good for our nation.

So, the neo-con attitude is, "The world is for children especially if they are not yet born and the elderly can just go live in cardboard boxes." Well, that will fix both the Medicare and Social Security problem. With Allen's plan, they can kill off all the old people so the young don't have to concern themselves with the welfare of their elders. But no euthanasia, let the elderly die of natural causes --like freezing to death.

Allen just irks me to no end. But at least now he has exposed the neo-cons' real solution to the Social security "problem".

[Stinky The Clown]

24. We Interrupt this Thread for Late Breaking Sen Allen News!!!!!!

In a move considered sheer genius by the financial community, Virginia Senator George Allen (R-Fuckwad) today inked a deal sure to net him millions. The Senator, after providing seniors with financial advice on the sale of their homes to fund their pitiful little retirements for their worthless, wrinkly, saggy asses, today cornered the market on cardboard refrigerator boxes.

The plan is to sell the boxes as 'affordable housing' to those seniors who willingly agree to sell their nest eggs to the highest bidders. Allen was heard to say he plans to bundle a TSA-confiscated box cutter with each box along with printed instructions on cutting holes for doors and windows. He has also devised plans for allowing the cut out material to serve as shutters to keep out wind and rain.

Heating and cooling options were not a planned part of the packages.

The boxes could later serve as caskets, cutting down on funeral costs.

The AARP was unavailable for comment.


Shown here is a prototype unit with a fireplace.


This photo shows Allen's related plans for multiunit senior housing.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled pansy-assed left wing bullshitting, already in progress ......

[dxstone]

26. LOL! That's a hoot!

Those multi-units look a little pricey, though...

I watched this show too (the masochist in me, I guess)... and what kills me most is how these assholes are trying to solve a theoretical problem in the FAR future (37 years from now is when things start heating up, so to speak)... and meanwhile Rome is burning, we're blowing up children in the name of freedom, mega-corporations bestride the land insane with power, fucking anything that moves and what few intelligent citizens remain are dying in droves of sheer national embarrassment...

It's just nuts; what are they trying to save the future of Social Security for if we're all gonna be dead by 2012?

That's the final solution, huh, Butch?... no old people, no people at all, no problem, right?



D X Stone

more sinister impudence at
http://presidentevilonline.com

[caligirl]

25. And if you smoke , medicare expenses go down. But you have to die 1st.

Bush play book is at it again.

[nevergiveup]

28. I loved the way

Christopher Dodd was sort of chuckling to himself while Allen was speaking. I had not seen Allen before......he is soooooooo pathetic.

[ContraBass Black]

29. Were I to see George Allen putting his foot into his mouth,

I would attempt to push it in further.

[Nothing Without Hope]

30. Great VIDEO CLIP of Sen. Allen being shot down on filibuster by Russert

on "Meet the Press." I mean he was NAILED!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1757515

Title: "VIDEO CLIP: See Senator George Allen Get Blasted by Russert on FILIBUSTER

[spooky3]

34. and by Dodd (using Moynihan's old line)

"you're entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts."

[Nothing Without Hope]

38. kick

[wryter2000]

39. Let 'em eat cake

Yeah, that should work.