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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:54 AM
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Topic: Karl Rove is failing as policy advisor
Edited on Fri May-20-05 11:56 AM by Writer
Let's see...

Social Security
Terri Schiavo
Filibuster (didn't think it would be this tough, would it, chump?)
Dropping poll numbers

Discuss!

Repubs in for 25+ years? Rove, I'm sorry, but no. Chump.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:56 AM
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1. his reputation is larger than his actual accomplishments.
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teenagebambam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:10 PM
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12. So is his waistline
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:57 AM
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2. Are you kidding! I think he's doing a gret job!! Keep it up KKKarl!
:applause:
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:58 AM
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3. LOL. Yeah, Karl. Keep it up!
You're a "real genius," remember? May your head continue to be as amorphous as the rest of you.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 11:59 AM
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4. It's the old "peter principle"
Rise one level above your competency. Rove is an excellent black bag dirty trickster, but a failure of policy.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:00 PM
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5. He's just a hack.
Can't really do politics, so all he can do is toss dirt. What a loser.
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liberal43110 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 08:29 PM
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24. Good point
I hadn't thought of it that way, but I like the description--seems quite apt.
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:00 PM
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6. KKKarl is....
a core member of The Fellowship

Revolt against the Fellowship's taking over of the US government
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:00 PM
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7. On a related note....Andy Card
If Romney does not run for re-election and the rethugs run Card, whoo hoo, I just can't wait.

On second thought, why would Card be the sacrificial lamb, it probably will be Healy.
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BrendaStarr Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:02 PM
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8. I think he's doing pretty good.
Edited on Fri May-20-05 12:04 PM by BrendaStarr
If he's behind the smoke screen attack on the fillibuster.

No, he's not so smart, just a fascist and has a lot of money behind him. Money that even has a tendency to control internet chatter.

And it looks like the Reps are going to get a certain amount of those judges of the worst possible pics, while we will sit here and do our best to drag our own people in the mud for the deal.

The only way to beat him is to get to the rest of America with what we know, believe, and even feel --as the right wing message boarders are trying to install a real insensitivity to anything liberals care about.

This will take time, but we got the truth out about Bolton, and if more of us worked at informing people on the mixed boards, we might actually find ourselves winning something sometime soon.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:07 PM
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10. The filibuster issue simply is what it is...
I don't believe he's using any "smoke and mirrors" here, he just wants to position the Republicans so that they can approve their nominees without a fuss.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:04 PM
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9. The fact of so many failures is Rove's job security
Edited on Fri May-20-05 12:04 PM by Canuckistanian
Remember, people who screw up get promoted in this administration and the REALLY big fuckups merit a medal!
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:10 PM
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11. The problem is that it has been smoke & mirrors from the start
Rove won because the process is rigged, and I don't just mean the voting fraud. He thought that by cowing the media, by cowing opposition, and by seriously punishing those who would ask the tough questions and seek the truth, that he would gain and keep control.

But it was all built on lies. There is nothing of substance. See, that's the problem. Iraq--lies. 9-11--lies. Social security--lies. And so it goes. The whole Bush administration has a foundation of fantasy and lies. Just look at the way they demonize gays and then turn out to be gay themselves.

They have survived by getting the American people to believe that the other side is no better. That's why it is so important to them to sling mud. They get by because so far they have been able to postpone the inevitable pain that the deficit and the world's ill will will bring to every family and person in this country.

Rove rules by bread and circuses. If you don't believe me, then explain Scott Peterson, Terri, Michael Jackson, etc. All media circuses. We don't need no stinking coliseums and hungry lions, we have MSM!

Who ever considered Rove anything but a lying bully, a user, a person for whom the end justifies the worse means imaginable.

Rove is a sociopath and unfortunately we have invested him with power not to kill a few but to kill millions.

I fear what will happen when he realizes that he is cornered. When Bush was failing in 2001, we got 9-11. What does Rove have planned next for us!!!??? He is not going down without a fight.

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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:15 PM
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13. Rove cares nothing about policy except how it can be made
to work for their political advantage. They really don't care what is best for the country, only what will be most beneficial to their power grab.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:17 PM
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14. That's why he's failing...
He doesn't understand that, well, people LIKE IT when policies work and work for their benefit... at least 50% of the time.

We're no longer under the fear spell, either, imho.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 04:11 PM
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15. K-k-k-kick for Karl the failure!
:D
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 04:24 PM
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16. Still has the media under his thumb though
and, as we have seen, that will make up for alot of failures. whether they're paid, threatened, or whatever, the media is now 99.99% GOP propagandists, and we won't gain any significant ground until we break that stranglehold.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 04:34 PM
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17. The set up of Newseek may...
have blowback. The Media is complicit with the Bush Fascists but when the Media percieves that they are being destroyed, the powers that be just may fight back.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 04:52 PM
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18. I think that might be why the NY Post ran the Sadaam pic on front.
As soon as I saw that this morning, the first thing that came to my mind was that the news guys were getting together, and the Post was running some pics that were sourced.

I think you may be onto something.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 04:59 PM
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19. He has to eventually
Nobody's prefect. A house built on lies has to fall some time.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:20 PM
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20. Isn't KKKarl off to bigger (and more foreign) things?
Isn't Karen Hughes back in the White House "advising" the Propagandist?
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:28 PM
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22. He's currently serving as Chief Policy Advisor
His new "promotion" after the inauguration. Karen Hughes is doing something international with promoting the US image in the Arab world, I believe... she also may be back in the White House.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 05:22 PM
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21. He's only good at being shameless
He's a completely amoral piece of shit. Which makes him perfect for the Bush/Neocon Mafia.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 08:23 PM
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23. Rove would be NOTHING if the media did its fucking job! n/t
Edited on Fri May-20-05 08:24 PM by Darkhawk32
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