Is "Muslim" a language? Kerry thinks so.

[JaneQPublic]

"Late Edition" with Wolf Blitzer, July 13, 2003

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0307/13/le.00.html

KERRY:...And I believe the obligation of the United States government, of the president is to rapidly internationalize the effort in Iraq, get the target off of American troops, bring other people, particularly Muslim-speaking and Arabic-speaking Muslim troops, into the region, help us diffuse the sense of American occupation, and rapidly transfer power to the Iraqis.

BLITZER: All right.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

1. Well. I'm sure he at least knows the Soviet Union

is no more.

[JohnKleeb]

2. Bush: they misunderestimated me

Thats really a minor gaffe to be honest, I tell you, I didnt jump on your guy when he more recently refered to Russia as the Soviet Union. I dont have the link for it but it happened. This happened a half of year ago.

[MaineDem]

3. Just as I've defended your candidate for slips of the tongue

The same needs to be done here.

If we go back to every word spoken by a candidate there are bound to be slips. This isn't a big issue.

[JohnKleeb]

exactly MD

I defended Dean for the Soviet Union gaffe.

[dansolo]

36. But Kerry himself has attacked Dean for his "gaffes"

It's called hypocricy. If Kerry is going to attack Dean for things he says, and claims that Dean is not qualified to be president because of it, then he should realize that everything that says will be held up to the same level of scrutiny. If anything, he deserves even more criticism.

[Uzybone]

4. Nice find

nitpicking like this will turn up all sorts of errors in any candidates speeches or interviews.

[Cheswick2.0]

5. Muslim speaking?

LOL

[WiseMen]

6. Obviously a misspeak. Whip Him! Kerry is Multi-lingual and travelled in

region. His wife is from Mozamique, East Africa, which has a large population of Arab-influences tribes. What's your point. Dean, or Edwards, or Clark has a better understanding of thoses cultures?

[sandnsea]

Looks like he corrected himself

Yes, misspoke. Then immediately corrected himself. Arabic-speaking Muslim troops. That's what a President is supposed to be able to do.

[Goldust]

7. I can't believe he said that....

Without adding a red-faced "Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaagh!" at the end.

[DjTj]

10. Yeeeeeeargh! is how people greet each other...

...when they're speaking Muslim.

[blm]

8. Likely meant well-versed in Muslim culture.

He can misspeak as anyone. He just does it less than most.

[maddezmom]

9. we need to cut all our guys some slack

picking and choosing one quote isn't going to help any of them.

[bigtree]

11. He stumbled over his words

this gotcha stuff is for the other side.

[eissa]

12. I'ts not considered a gaffe

unless it's played a zillion times on tv; and who determines that?

[Ramsey]

13. Anybody can make a gaffe

Dean called Russia the Soviet Union. Clark said the Taliban was in Iraq (he meant Afghanistan).

This sounds like an honest slip of the tongue. Nothing to go ballistic about.

[Cheswick2.0]

30. Dean didn't call Russia the soviet union

He was talking about the Soviet Union when it was the Soviet Union. It would have been a gaffe had he called it Russia.

[WilliamPitt]

14. Well, Clark supports Bush's move to get the Taliban in Iraq

if you believe what he said in the debate.

Or maybe it was a slip of the tongue?

Smart money says 'Slip of the tongue.' Smarter money says 'The smears are getting silly and desperate.' In fact, 'The smears are getting silly and desperate' is running 2-1 in Vegas.

[JohnKleeb]

17. lol

I forgot about that one. Of all the candiates including our favorite dumbass, Dumbya has made the most. Heres my Bushism of the day
"And... its gettin' worse. That's what people have gotta understand up there in Washington or over there in Washington, down there in Washington, wherever--thought I was in Crawford for a minuite"
Hes talking about medical malpractice insurance and he was in Scranton, PA when he said this.

[TLM]

15. His slip of the tongue is no big deal... what is a big deal....

is that he's giving Dean's speech almost word for f-ing word... maybe the reason Kerry is mesing up is that he's reading the speech off some crib notes of Dean;s speeches and statements?

September 07, 2003
Statement From Governor Howard Dean

It is time to bring NATO into Iraq, and it is high time to bring in the UN and to ask for Arabic speaking troops from places like Egypt and Morocco as well as other Muslim troops to help in this effort.

[JohnKleeb]

20. How can that be

This was made in the middle of July by Kerry, your Dean context is in September. So they have the same idea which is good.

[TLM]

24. I grabbed the first thing that popped up on google

Because I saw Dean say this myself when he was in my city back on June 27th 03.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

34. Dean already tried to say he was for Arabic speaking troops first

http://desmoinesregister.com/news/stories/c4789004/22192213.html

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[ACPS65]

16. I'm guessing you didn't hear

Dr. Dean lecturing Kerry on the Gulf War today. lol :)

[killbotfactory]

18. This would only be an unforgivable gaffe and a sign of lack of experience

if Dean said it.

[JohnKleeb]

21. nope

I thought it was wrong to blast Dean when he was mocked for the Soviet Union one. These are human beings, they make mistakes, now Dumbya, if you can make a calendar, hes just stupid, Kerry, Dean etc have all made mistakes.

[Cocoa]

19. I can no longer support John Kerry

[Brotherjohn]

22. Oh please. This is really stretching.

He is obviously correcting himself... he probably actualliy SAID "Muslim-speaking...(pause for correction)... Arabic-speaking Muslim troops..."

Or even if he said "and", it's fairly obvious that he's either correcting himself or it's just a brief slip of the tongue. Otherwise, why would he have said "Arabic-speaking MUSLIM (again) troops"?

If Kerry, or anyone else, made a HABIT of statements like this, that would be one thing. But the only candidate who has done that is, well... Bush.

[Snivi Yllom]

23. Ahhhhh fair play

Kerry is now being subjected to the scrutiny Dean got.

[Logansquare]

25. It was a gaffe--I sincerely doubt he thinks "Muslim" is a language

[TopesJunkie]

26. Kerry's got big problems. However, this is no big deal --

[kskiska]

27. He obviously corrected himself

I don't see how, considering what's squatting in the White House right now, anyone could possibly criticize anyone else's real or perceived "gaffes."

[creativelcro]

28. ahahahah. Good one...

[Forkboy]

29. This is a weak attack on Kerry

he obviously knows better and just misspoke.

[JohnLocke]

31. ??

[ieoeja]

32. But what if this wasn't a slip of the tongue?

Then I suppose "Muslim speaking" would mean "speaking with a Muslim perspective, understanding and comprehension".

So he screwed up and used Muslim when he should have used Islamic. An Islamic speaking individual would have known that.

[mot78]

33. This is dumber than obsessing over Dean's "yeeeaaaaaahrr"

[TheDonkey]

35. Dean thinks the Soviet Union is still around. Small mistakes are made

try to be a little objective. wow.

[molly]

40. Better yet - Dean thinks the Book of Job is in the New Testament

and his wife is Jewish? :wtf:

[George_Bonanza]

37. As long as he doesn't repeat it, it's a slip of the tongue

Like anybody would be perfectly versed on every single speech/interview they give.

[adadem]

38. Sounds like

some are feeling really desperate tonight.

[Edwards4President]

39. Does anyone really believe that Kerry thinks Muslim is a language?

If not, this is a silly discussion.

[HazMat]

42. Silly discussions:

the foundation of the Dean campaign.

But this is what we've come to expect from them.

Hopefully tommorow people like Kerry and Edwards can stop Dean's reign of terror.

It's time to take down the little gnome from Vermont.

[Spirochete]

41. After 3 years of Bushisms

little verbal miscues like the ones mentioned in this thread hardly even bump the needle. If I'd been listening to any of the speeches, I most likely wouldn't have noticed, not being the most attentive person in the Western Hemisphere in the first place.

[IndianaGreen]

44. Well, this could be a common thing with Skull & Bones members

Bush says stupid things, and now Kerry is joining his Bonesman pal and says something stupid.

If Kerry ever says "strategery" or "nukular" he can hang it up!