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tryanhas Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:36 PM
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Big news! Edwards is going to be on The O'Reily Factor tonight.
Edited on Mon Jan-26-04 06:40 PM by tryanhas
Be prepared for O'Reily to try to put words in his mouth.

O'Reilly has a history of asking a question, having the guest refute what he says, and then saying, "I agree with you" while adding some little tidbits in at the end that his guest may not agree with and doing it in a way that doesn't call for a response, but it makes it look like his guest is letting him say it because he IN FACT agrees with him.

Don't be deceived, lol...
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Victor Wong Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:37 PM
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1. Wow, I'm surprised.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:37 PM
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2. that should be good tv
Edited on Mon Jan-26-04 06:37 PM by Magic Rat
I'd watch that oily S.O.B just to see Edwards.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:38 PM
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3. Risky. But he's got to be able to handle this kind of crap.
Hope he pulls it off.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:39 PM
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4. I don't know if I have the stomach, but what time is it on?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:43 PM
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9. 8:00 EST
I think, it's been a while since I've been in the states. Hope he does well, he's a brave man.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:48 PM
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16. thanks. He's taking a big risk.
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:40 PM
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5. Oh man.
What a mistake. O'Reilly is going to tear Edwards to bits and not let him get a word in edge-wise. I really despise O'Reilly and the only people that watch him are total right-wing freaks who won't be swayed no matter how charming and intelligent Edwards sounds. I hope Edwards does okay.
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:42 PM
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7. "the only people that watch him..."
He's probably gambling that a portion of NH's conservative independents will be among the viewing audience.

Not a bad way to reach them, provided he holds up.

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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:42 PM
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8. Edwards is an amazing Litigator
Remember he interviewed the Inron folks when he was on the sub-committie? He tore them a new asshole and he will do the same with O'Reilly.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:44 PM
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13. He took down Judge Pickering Perry Mason style . . .
broke him down and got him to admit under oath that he had violated his ethical codes.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:43 PM
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10. not everyone who watches him is a right-wing freak
I used to work with a lot of moderate people who watched his show. They watched him more for entertainment value than anything.

I think if anyone can go on O'Reilly and do well it's the smooth-talking Edwards.

Although, in all honesty I'd LOVE to see Dean go on his show and have a brawl with him.
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tryanhas Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:43 PM
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11. It comes on at 8pm ET and 11pm ET on Fox News
Also, O'Reilly isn't going to tear anyone to shreads.

Edwards has been on the O'Reilly factor before. He knows exactly what to expect.

He has been up there at least 2 other times that I can remember, and O'Reilly is no more difficult than Tim Russert except for the fact that Bill O'Reilly likes to yell...
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:55 PM
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23. Oh I'm fully aware of that.
I'm sure Edwards could blow away O'Reilly in any sort of verbal exchange... if only O'Reilly played by the rules and let him speak. O'Reilly tends to cut people off, yell, and prematurely end debates when he can't take the heat. It obviously reflects poorly on himself, but then look at his followers.

I don't have the stomach to watch him, but good luck to Edwards! :)
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:00 PM
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26. Chris Mathews tried to do that to him and failed - twice
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:40 PM
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6. Interesting move to indulge O'Really on the eve of the vote...
...good luck to Edwards! :hi:

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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:43 PM
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12. Wow, I'm impressed. Shields up Edwards!
You'll need them for all the BS he's gonna send your way. But if you stay calm and collected (like you usually do) he's the one that will get flustered.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:45 PM
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14. Watch o'lielly
Completely destroy Edwards.

Hawkeye-X
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tryanhas Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:50 PM
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18. Welcome to the DU
You MUST BE NEW TO THIS because obviously you have NO CLUE WHATSOEVER about John Edwards if you think that Bill O'Reilly is a more effective debator than Edwards is.

That's just plain foolishness.

Besides, let me make a point that most people obviously IGNORANTLY overlook when it comes to going on shows.

MOST OF THE TIME IT'S BECAUSE THE PERSON GOING ON THE SHOW WANTED TO GO UP THERE, NOT BECAUSE THE HOST SOUGHT TO GET THEM ON THE SHOW!!!

If O'Reilly would have been the one to ask Edwards to come on, he probably would have said that he is busy campaigning and can't make it because of his schedule. Since he is going to be on the O'Reilly factor, then OBVIOUSLY, he wanted to go up there, so get a clue with the "tear him up" crap, because it ain't gonna happen, and you obviously don't know what Edwards is capable of.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 11:21 PM
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73. several reasons
1) Edwards voted for the IWR
2) Edwards voted for the scumbag judge who wants to water down ADA, a law that is very important to me.
3) Edwards has very little political experience.
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Victor Wong Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:51 PM
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19. Why do you bash all candidates not named Dean? Just wondering.
I'm new here. :)
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:36 PM
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64. Welcome, Victor Wong!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:45 PM
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15. I wonder
I wonder if he'll ask for the apology. :)
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:49 PM
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17. Edwards can handle that stupid punk
There is no way Edwards will get owned by some lying punk like O'jesicantsayatruthfulthing'Riely.

Its about time Orielly stopped accepting Democratic paper targets as guests and got his ass kicked which is exactly what Edwards will do. Politely though I'm sure :)
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:52 PM
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20. Poor Guy
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:52 PM
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21. Is this part of a Repbulican strategy? Someone on this board quoted
Is this part of a Repbulican strategy? Someone on this board quoted Rush Limbaugh as saying only Edwards can beat Bush.

The Republicans are going to emphasize national security.

Maybe they figure that an opponent who isn't a veteran would be best for the Bush-is-great-at-protecting-us theme.
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Victor Wong Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:53 PM
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22. Actually Edwards is framing the premise by being on this show.
He's making it seem rude to attack him.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:56 PM
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24. Remember....Edwards was a Personal Injury Lawyer first!
He can handle O'Lielly.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 06:57 PM
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25. O'Reily may be making the mistake many others have made
underestimating John Edwards.

But that's ok. Most people only make that mistake once. After Edwards hands their chewed up asses back to them, with that sh*t-eating grin and a pleasant "howdy-doo," they ususally don't mess with him again.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:39 PM
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66. LOL!
Someone once asked me if I knew the southern version of "F**k YOU!"

It's (said with a smile), "why, bless your HEART!"

:-)
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Edwards4President Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:52 PM
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69. LOL!
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:03 PM
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27. VERY GUTSY, I hope it doesn't backfire
Edited on Mon Jan-26-04 07:09 PM by jenk
I would not have done this!

not on the eve of the election
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:04 PM
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28. OUR CANDIDATES SHOULD BE BOYCOTTING
FAUX NEWS! After the debate debacle our candidates should NEVER, EVER participate in ANYTHING Faux News is involved in. JMCPO
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #28
31. I know I am not supposed to be sexist and superficial
but that's a great picture of the General.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:19 PM
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33. Isn't it?
:loveya: He's very photogenic. :loveya:
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:10 PM
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29. smart move
Edwards is going after independents and moderates in NH and figures he can reach them with O'Reily

I wouldn't be too worried...Edwards is the type of puppy that bites!

He always does good in the debates and I like how he answers questions immediately and firmly.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:13 PM
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30. I think O'Reilly will go easy on him
he sure was previously.
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Victor Wong Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:16 PM
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32. He wants his show to be relevant. Nobody will ever come on if hes a
total Ahole.
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:26 PM
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34. is the whole FOX cabal in NH now?
are they preying on that poor state?
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anti-NAFTA Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:54 PM
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39. No, not really.
They just have Carl "Fuckface" Cameron there, as the ONLY correspondent, who smirks smugly whenever he's on TV to make the Democratic primary look like it's something to ridicule. It pisses me off like nothing else.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:42 PM
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35. You can't play it safe and win vs. an incumbent
Congrats to gutsy Edwards. Amazing but predictable foresight. You can't focus on New Hampshire alone, regardless of the calendar. The type of voter he needs to win in the southern primaries and the GE is likely to be watching FOX News.

If Gore had show more moxie like this instead of abandoning Clinton and conceding winnable states like Ohio and Nevada, we wouldn't be concerned with primaries right now. Other than who our victim would be.

I never watch O'Reilly other than outside his crib, like when Franken and Ivins dominated last spring. Talent will out.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:49 PM
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36. O'Reilly is a punk ass.
I bet he'll talk about how "glad I am you have the guts to come on the Factor, Senator" and wish him luck when all of us know he's going to try to roast Johnny Reid six ways from Sunday.

I'm sure Johnny is familiar enough with the show to know what he's in for.
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anti-NAFTA Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:53 PM
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37. This is how O'Reilly works.
Q: Do you think that American values in the family should be preserved.
A: Of course.
Q: See, I agree with you. Homosexuals and atheists should be put in gas chambers. But so many of your colleagues argue for civil liberties and rights and all sorts of degeneracy. But you're a reasonable guy, we're glad to have you on.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:53 PM
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38. Thanks for the heads-up...
:kick:
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Loren645 Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:55 PM
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40. Good chance for him to show he can be tough.
Or otherwise...

Good luck Sen. I'm pulling for ya.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:56 PM
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41. Damn
we should stay away from these lying liars. No one who watches O'Really is going to vote for JRE or any other Dem. Going on that show has NO UPSIDE.

Bad move.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:56 PM
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42. I don't know if I can watch O'Leilly/Faux tonight
I am already on mediawhore overload.
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 07:59 PM
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43. Why in the world is he going on that show?
Isn't he wasting his time? What regular Faux viewer would vote for him? Curious choice.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:04 PM
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44. When does the No Spin Zone start?
Is it always on at the same time -- 25 after, 40 after? He just promoed Edwards as 4th in the lineup and no way I can stomach beforehand.

Gee, surprising content, like an attack on lefty Hollywood.
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Loren645 Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:10 PM
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45. He damn well better be GREAT. I can't believe what I'm sitting thru...
Oh lord, take me now. Call me home...
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One Taste Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:17 PM
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46. Edwards is up next
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ALago1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:25 PM
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48. Keep those of us w/o access to TV updated
Edited on Mon Jan-26-04 08:25 PM by ALago1
Thanks!! :)
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:30 PM
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Recap...
...they had an argument over "wealth redistribution," which was basically fought to a draw. Edwards and O'Reilly both got to talk about how they worked their way up from humble backgrounds, which went over pretty well for Edwards.

O'Reilly then asked Edwards whether or not Bush lied about WMD, and Edwards said, "I don't know the answer to that question." He went on to talk about how we have to have a rational investigation into the intelligence.

They then talked about why Edwards over the other candidates, and he basically said that they didn't come from where he came from. O'Reilly asked if he was tough enough, and he said he had been fighting these fights his entire life.

At the end, O'Reilly said, "I respect him."
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:25 PM
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47. Edwards' look ALONE is enough to win him this thing.
Watch the camera go from O'Reilly to Edwards.

O'Reilly looks tired, shifty, and ridiculous.

Edwards looks calm and earnest.

Regardless of what's being said (and Edwards isn't doing the greatest job of his life tonight LOL).
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #47
50. Bill O'Reilly
Lying, splotchy bully (Thanks, Al)
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:26 PM
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49. "I respect him."
...says O'Reilly.

That went surprisingly well...

...a little too well...
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:27 PM
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52. details, please
please
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Victor Wong Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:30 PM
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57. It was a nothing interview. O'Reilly bitched about taxes the whole time.
Edwards was fine. Complimentary, didn't try to start an argument.

O'Reilly said "I respect him" after the interview.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:31 PM
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60. Basically O'reilly
Cried that Democrats want to take his money, Bill admitted he was a fat cat. Edwards did ok, he said the reason Bill and John himself did so well is they live in America and we gotta put back in.

Anyways, I didn't care for Edwards answer on Iraq and WMD, but he did ok on the tax thing.
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ALago1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:28 PM
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53. what happened??
I'm dying to know!!! haha
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wheresthemind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:30 PM
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58. He did very well...
Congrats...
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:32 PM
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61. Edwards kicked. "I respect him". Bow down O"Reilly.
Edited on Mon Jan-26-04 08:34 PM by chimpymustgo
Even with the apparent editing, Edwards threw down on O'Reilly. Calm, focussed, right. Aced the test. Bring it on.
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Loren645 Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:27 PM
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51. Uh, do Edwards supporters honestly think he held his own?
Just asking.
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Victor Wong Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:29 PM
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55. It was like a minute long.
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:31 PM
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59. he did great, never gave O'Reilly an opportunity to carve him up
put another candidate in that situation and they're dead meat
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:34 PM
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62. I only caught the last 3 minutes of it
I thought Edwards did great. O'Reilly let him have the last question, he interrupted once, and Edwards finished and O'Reilly had nothing to say, and asked one last question about whether Edwards was ready for the job and the attacks that would be coming at him.

Edwards said "no, I'm not, I'm dropping out."

:)

No, but he answered very well and O'Reilly ended it (It' wasn't a live interview) saying he respected him.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:35 PM
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63. It wasn't great and it wasn't live.
Should have known O'Reilly wasn't going to have him live.

The piece was overedited--it seemed more focused on O'Reilly's 'clever' questions and Edwards' facial reactions to those.

Edwards didn't do himself any favors and he tripped over some words--but I'm pretty sure the editing made it worse than it was.

The BEST was when Edwards said his opponents were all good men and O'Reilly chimed in with "Are you sure?" :eyes:
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tryanhas Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 09:00 PM
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70. I think the interview didn't allow for him to discuss anything
First of all, it was too short and it wasn't live so I was disappointed for that alone.

Secondly, O'Reilly didn't allow him to discuss anything which pissed me off. John Edwards was trying to be nice, but I wish he would have been having a bad day.

Overall, it was not a good showing, but nothing totally damaging because NOTHING WAS DISCUSSED. It would have been different if issues were actually discussed instead of O'Reilly just complaining about paying more in taxes the entire freaking time. He did much better the last couple of times he was on O'Reilly.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:29 PM
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54. He still defends the IWR and says the situation in Iraq
is good now.

Some democrats are "too paternalistic"...

All I gotta know.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:30 PM
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56. Was there anything he could have said which would have changed your mind?
No, right?
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:37 PM
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65. Sure.
Kerry has explained his vote well. I respect that he talks about its difficulties. I think he could have recognized the MESS Iraq is in now instead of saying the situation is good. Maybe he could tell one of the 512 dead soldiers how good that situation is. Or the thousands of Iraqi dead. And the problems with setting up a government. Instead, the situation is good. Great.
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Loren645 Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:51 PM
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68. I can't believe he said he was proud of that vote. A real point of pride.
Great.
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Loren645 Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 08:42 PM
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67. Actually AP, yes. He was/is my second choice. Did you go back
and look at other things I've posted on Edwards?
No, right?

He didn't inspire. Simple as that. OK?
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 09:07 PM
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71. Uneventful, but Edwards does have areas to improve
That "why are you the best candidate?" answer needs to branch beyond vague references to his background. It was identical to what he provided Judy Woodruff early in the week, and I was disappointed he didn't refine it.

I wish all of these guys would check out clips of Bill Clinton regarding the distribution of wealth question, then tailor his summation to fit their words and style. Neither Gore's people vs. the powerful nor tonight's (paraphrased) "I understand your concerns, Bill" from Edwards are going to cut it.

However, I thought Edwards' description of each party's basic philosophy (let the rich take care of everyone else vs. caretakers) and saying he disagreed with many aspects of both was a simplistic winner, with independents in mind. He snuck in a call for a "lean government", which might be risky since it likely conflicts with his voting record.



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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 09:36 PM
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72. that was a piece of red meat for independents, especially...
...those that lean to the right

"lean govt" sounds good :) bush hasn't delivered
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