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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 08:43 PM Original message |
Dean is still spinning tall tales on the issue of race |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. I can't watch Dean, but please tell me he's not still telling that lie. |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. saw it |
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gardenista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 08:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. That gentleman said to Dean after the event |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. "I'm not presidential material, but I play at it on TV." |
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gardenista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 10:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. Geeeeez, Louise, what is that supposed to mean? nt |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 11:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Old commercial -- before my time -- "I'm not a doctor... |
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gardenista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:24 AM Response to Reply #45 |
56. Yeah, I remember the commercial. I was just dumbfounded |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:25 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I just don't like Dean very much. |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 05:53 PM Response to Reply #58 |
135. Wow is Edwards grabing his crank in that picture? |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:09 PM Response to Reply #135 |
139. Why are you interested enough to even ask about it? |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:19 PM Response to Reply #139 |
143. Well it is just so unpresidential... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:22 PM Response to Reply #143 |
145. YEAAAAARRGGGHHH |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:25 PM Response to Reply #145 |
147. So are you saying... |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:31 PM Response to Reply #147 |
150. Well, it clearly has captured your interest . . . |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:41 PM Response to Reply #150 |
155. Yes, I am very interested in finding out |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:45 PM Response to Reply #155 |
160. You have clearly run out of arguments. |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:47 PM Response to Reply #160 |
163. Arguments... thought I was asking a question.... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #163 |
170. Very revealing. |
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meisje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
164. You're no pundit, but you play one on DU |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. I watched the entire town meeting, and I didn't hear him say that. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. He talks about race in a way I've never heard before: |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. It's called affirmative action. |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Dean is pro affirmative action when it comes to white women and white men |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 10:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Sources? |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 10:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. From Dean himself |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 11:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
47. My jaw dropped when I heard Dean say this. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 11:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. That does not mean that his pro-affirmative action stance... |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:00 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. What has Dean ever done to advance affirmative action? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:19 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Affirmative action isn't a race issue. |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:21 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Affirmative action isn't a race issue? |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:23 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. You don't think affirmative action is a race issue? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:25 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. It's about equality for everyone. It's about minorities. |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:26 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Umm - yes, I know what affirmative action is |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:28 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Hey, just making sure. |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:50 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. No. I think that affirmative action for the purpose of eliminating racial |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:58 AM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Yeah, that's "racial affirmative action." |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:02 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. It is not 'eloquent' to claim that you talk tough on race and then use an |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:05 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Why is it not elequoent? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:12 AM Response to Reply #74 |
80. Josh, he sold himself as a BLUNT talker about race. What's BLUNT about |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:16 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. What's not blunt about it? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:22 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Open your ears and eyes. They're all talking about it better than Dean. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:25 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Just post a link. |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:32 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Here are a few examples: |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:34 AM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Google the transcript for the Arizona debate and compare it to my |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:02 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. He uses gender AA to discuss racial AA? Why not just talk about racial AA |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:04 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Because he's in a white room with white people... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:10 AM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Don't even get me started on this "white room" thing. |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 02:21 AM Response to Reply #73 |
100. Sort of like Ebonics for white people? |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 05:28 PM Response to Reply #100 |
131. LOL! |
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Mass_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:49 PM Response to Reply #64 |
165. you guys are both right |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:28 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. The constitution isn't even about equal protection for EVERYONE. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:31 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Using the comparasion is. |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:57 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. People have repeatedly offered evidence of what other candidates |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:57 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. At the AZ debate -- I posted this yesterday: |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:27 AM Response to Reply #55 |
60. www.affirmativeaction.org |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:54 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Yes, but Dean isn't claiming to be talking about a plethora of things |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:00 AM Response to Reply #65 |
70. I have no idea how someone could address this post in a way that is both |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:08 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. That's total crap. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:13 AM Response to Reply #76 |
81. "In a way that makes sense????" He's bringing it up in way that makes.... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:15 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. That's because white men aren't "giving anything up." |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:20 AM Response to Reply #83 |
87. He's reassuring them that he's looking after them. Furthermore, you know |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:24 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Haha, your Dean hate is so obvious. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:39 AM Response to Reply #89 |
94. ... and so justified, if one cares about race. |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:49 AM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Do you think that Dean's failure to bring any minorities into his cabinet |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:56 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. ... so long as he feels good about himself, who cares? You're funny. |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:58 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. ha |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:14 AM Response to Reply #76 |
82. You'd be offended by someone saying they grew up in a racially |
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Andromeda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 02:53 AM Response to Reply #50 |
108. You made the claim that Dean hasn't... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 03:00 AM Response to Reply #108 |
110. As noted below, Dean says it's all about subconscious feelings. |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 07:53 AM Response to Reply #108 |
113. How can anyone prove a negative? |
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Kipepeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
68. That is not true |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:10 AM Response to Reply #68 |
79. Facts |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 02:32 AM Response to Reply #79 |
102. You can tell how desperate those folks attackign Dean are getting... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 02:43 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. When you have three different DU'ers making sensible, irrefutable |
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Andromeda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 02:48 AM Response to Reply #26 |
106. That's an untrue remark... |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 08:13 AM Response to Reply #106 |
116. You're kidding, right |
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Mass_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
162. many apologies but |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 07:11 PM Response to Reply #162 |
174. Actually, it's closer to 3-4% |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 11:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
46. It's a pro-white man affirmative action. It was an incredibly |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 02:37 AM Response to Reply #46 |
103. Keep trying.... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 02:59 AM Response to Reply #103 |
109. Post 105. You're a little late. |
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loyalsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:01 AM Response to Reply #25 |
51. As a die hard feminist |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:11 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. These are two separate issues |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 02:49 AM Response to Reply #52 |
107. Nope, they are two parts of the same issue. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 03:03 AM Response to Reply #107 |
111. Is it BLUNT to talk about addressing anti-male gender discrimination as an |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 05:50 PM Response to Reply #111 |
134. Edwards is doing the same old thing that white politicians always do |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 05:57 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. this is TOO funny. Dean has said the best way to fix the problem is to |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:11 PM Response to Reply #136 |
140. Best way... only way... etc etc crap arguments... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. Another lame argument. People here have been arguing EXACTLY |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #141 |
146. Again... you can't argue what he said.... so instead you argue |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:38 PM Response to Reply #146 |
152. That's not an argument at all. |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:45 PM Response to Reply #152 |
161. Still not so much as one quote... why not AP? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 07:03 PM Response to Reply #161 |
171. Becase 170 posts in, you and other Dean supporters conceded he said |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 05:58 PM Response to Reply #134 |
137. OK, you're right |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:18 PM Response to Reply #137 |
142. "who never did anything to advance civil rights" LOL! |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:20 PM Response to Reply #142 |
144. Didn't the legislature scold Dean into passing MLK holiday? |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:27 PM Response to Reply #144 |
148. Nope there already was a holiday for MLK day |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:40 PM Response to Reply #148 |
154. That was the ONLY race-related thing dean did that I know of, |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #154 |
158. Or his silence on the discriminatory implications of internet voting? |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:42 PM Response to Reply #142 |
156. I was referring to civil rights for minorities |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:59 PM Response to Reply #156 |
169. Civil rights apply to everybody.... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 07:04 PM Response to Reply #169 |
172. but especially white male victims of gender discrimination! |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 07:15 PM Response to Reply #169 |
175. Why are you misstating my post? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:15 AM Response to Reply #51 |
84. Did she go around bragging about how bluntly she dealt with race by |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
121. What he was talking about was discrimination that's sometimes hard to see |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:25 PM Response to Reply #121 |
124. Different candidates try to appeal to different things to get people to |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 10:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
38. So did I, and I did not hear Dean say this.... |
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Jerseycoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. So does Clark everywhere |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. No he did not say that ..... |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 08:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. He told it to someone in the crowd after the speech |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. No he did not...... |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. but did you see him on CSPAN tonight? n/t |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. Use of the word "quota" is the least of the problems with |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Good point |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 11:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. That's a better point. Dean's the meta-race talk candidate. |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 11:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
43. Yes, he did |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 10:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
32. You're right. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:25 AM Response to Reply #32 |
91. You think that Edwards not knowing how restrictive DOMA is is a problem, |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 02:24 AM Response to Reply #91 |
101. Don't worry I have some problems |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 07:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
114. I just watched it and that's exactly what he said . . . |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
7. Let's let it go puhleez....enough already. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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ampster (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
9. Dean is the best candidate |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
11. Not true |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Indeed. |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. That's not true |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 10:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Has he done it in front of all audiences or just minority ones? |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 10:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. He talks about it to all of his audiences |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 11:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Thanks |
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Kipepeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:07 AM Response to Reply #34 |
75. That's great but... |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:19 AM Response to Reply #75 |
86. Oh, please - John Edwards has been talking about this forever |
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Kipepeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 02:01 AM Response to Reply #86 |
98. wow |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 02:09 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. I guess you saying "He must have been listening to Dean again" |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:30 PM Response to Reply #99 |
149. Guess that's better than him listening for the sound of ambulances... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:44 PM Original message |
All signs indicate clients were chasing Edwards. However, if this is |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
167. Well since you attacks on Dean have nothing to do with |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #149 |
159. You can't possibly believe that that qualifies as a response . . . |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:54 PM Response to Reply #159 |
168. No different that what you and AP have been posting... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 07:06 PM Response to Reply #168 |
173. Don't confuse anxiety with befuddlement. it's not that we don't think it's |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 02:45 AM Response to Reply #21 |
105. I actually have no clue what Edwards has been doing |
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HazMat (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
12. Yeah, he's |
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9119495 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:32 PM Original message |
So you're another advocate fo the forced migration of minorities? |
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Darth_Ole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. He says he's the first white to talk about race. |
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Kipepeo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
77. wow |
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ACPS65 (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
14. Dean's a gaffe a minute. |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Gaffe: By Definition |
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isbister (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
15. What else is new? |
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candy331 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 10:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. Well I guess he could have searched harder to find |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
20. Did he really say that? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
22. Lieberman |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
31. Oooh...A Dean bashing thread |
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askew (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
36. I watched the C-Span rally tonight and that is not what he said. |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 11:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Sorry, but I guess you missed it |
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Duder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
37. I also watched it... |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 11:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. I stand by what I said |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 07:08 AM Response to Reply #42 |
112. Thank you Dolstein, for the truth and the insights. |
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arewethereyet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
41. ifs he's talking, he's not getting the message across in SC |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-26-04 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
44. Looks like Dean is cruisin' for another smackdown by Al Sharpton. |
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Abigail147 (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 05:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
132. Would that be the Al Sharpton |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 05:43 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. Dean himself has provoked questions by continuing to make this bogus claim |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:38 PM Response to Reply #132 |
153. Sharpton might have some explaining to do but it won't be to Dean. Or do |
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beaconess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
115. How sad |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #115 |
118. "scream bloody murder the minute someone talks tough on race to them" |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:16 PM Response to Reply #115 |
122. Your post would make sense if Dean called himself a progressive. He doesnt |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:21 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. People are talking tough about race -- that's it's not about making |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 01:35 PM Response to Reply #123 |
125. ??? Did you mean to reply to ME? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 02:59 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Im saying that beaconees, Ed4Pres and I are talking tough about race |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 05:14 PM Response to Reply #122 |
129. You don't believe that Dean is claiming he's progressive on race? |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
117. I just watched it. You're right. He said it. |
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Loonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
119. Next, Dean will claim he was born a small black child |
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Abigail147 (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
120. Like Dean says |
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Very Good Dem (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #120 |
127. What? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #120 |
128. Just saying that over and over doesn't make it true. Just like Dean saying |
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Edwards4President (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 05:15 PM Response to Reply #120 |
130. How many different ways can we prove to you that Edwards is talking about |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:34 PM Response to Reply #130 |
151. Edwards is doing the same old crap with the same old audiences... |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #151 |
157. Only if you believe everything Dean says -- which we've learned isn't a... |
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TLM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:50 PM Response to Reply #157 |
166. You are wrong... as usual. |
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TexasSissy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-27-04 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
138. Clark is one w/civil rights leaders' endorsements. |
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