Howard Dean on Hannity and Colmes

[mojogeorgo]

Okay, we had our television set turned to Fox News, the *cough* fair and balanced station, for almost an hour, just because of the promise that Howard Dean would be on Hannity and Colmes. Our television is *never* tuned in to Fox--when we program in the cable channels we even leave that one out. Of course, we kept getting the "coming up" and "after the break" promises, but Howard Dean wasn't on until almost the very end of the show. I think our television may now need to be ritually purified in some way.

One of the times when they said "Coming up", there was a banner that said "Colmes vs. Dean"? Versus? Heh. For some reason my mind goes back to the old Life Cereal commercials with "Mikey" and tries to get this to fit...

"You debate him"
"I'm not gonna debate him--you debate him!"
"Let's get Alan!"
"He won't debate him--he's wimpier than everyone!"
"He's debating him! Hey, Alan!"

Go here for the interview
http://shadowbfa.blogspot.com/
I missed Alan's first question, so the transcript begins with Howard's first response.

[Coexist]

1. He begins with a BANG!! Give 'em hell, Howard.

<snip>
"Howard: Well, the situation obviously has been awful for the people of Louisiana and Mississippi and Alabama. You know, one thing Bill Clinton did really well was to have a strong Federal Emergency Management Agency. And the Bush administration just went back to turning it into a dumping ground for people who evidently didn't have anything else to do. And it's really too bad, because now people have paid for that with their lives."

[Adelante]

2. Huh

I thought Dean would never go on Fox News? That's what I was hearing here on DU when Clark took the plunge. What happened?

[Coexist]

3. I love that he took the message from the choir to the snake pit

those bewildered Republicans who are now disenchanted with Bush are more receptive to hearing the other side and we NEED to pound our message (and the truth) home while they are in this state.

[Adelante]

4. Oh, so do I

I agree absolutely, FLDem5.

[CarolNYC]

5. Yeah, me too....

Now he's gone and given Faux legitimacy!!!! Now everyone is going to think they really are "fair and balanced"! What kind of a Democrat is he???? :sarcasm:

[Toots]

13. Anybody that "thinks" that doesn't really think at all

:shrug:

[BeachBuckeye]

26. Myself and several other "Liberal" broadcasters....

Have been ignored by Gov. Dean and his staff when we ask for an interview. It is an insult to then see him on Hannity's program.

[mojogeorgo]

6. Don't know about that

I recall Howard saying he wouldn't go on O'Reilly's show, which is a good policy for anyone to have, in my opinion. And he *has* said something about Fox News being the propaganda arm of the Republican party. But he's made no secret of that, so if Fox wants to have him on, and he agrees, I imagine both sides are getting something out of the deal.

[Adelante]

9. He is right to go on FOX News

As far as I'm concerned. I wish Democratic leaders would take over Fox News.

[safi0]

20. Yeah. He's said

He wouldn't go on the factor. I don't remember the reasons exactly, you can ask Stewert at oreillysucks.com why Dean refused to go on that show but I don't think he's ever refused to go on Fox.

[liberalnurse]

7. He became the leader of the Democratic Party.

His job is to get out in front and lead...so he is doing his job. Thats what happened. I felt the same way when I had to give a soap suds enema to a 480 pound man.

[Catchawave]

10. Isn't Clark a Fox employee ?

Just wondering if that's the difference :shrug:

[Adelante]

11. Clark is a foreign affairs and military commentator for Fox

The issue wasn't that he had a contract to go on Fox News, it was that it was considered here a betrayal of the Democratic Party that he would go on Fox News, and that was supported by folks saying Howard Dean would never go on Fox News. But then Clark always said Democrats should be on Fox News and everywhere on the airwaves to reach Reagan Democrats and bring them back to the party, and Howard Dean essentially said the same thing without mentioning Fox News in particular. I'm not questioning Dean going on Fox News; I think he is right to do it. I wondered about the widespread impression here at DU, at the time that Clark started commentating on Fox News, that Howard Dean would never go on Fox News.

[Catchawave]

15. So Clark receives a paycheck from Fox?

To me that's alot different than the political climate changing and the DNC chair accepting a guest spot on a Fox show?

I wish the General well, I hope he makes the positive changes we all crave in the MSM...

:patriot:

[Adelante]

23. Yes, that Fox News paycheck comes in handy

It helps pay his travel expenses on behalf of Democratic candidates, issues, and organizations all over this wide country. Sweet, huh?

Not everyone earns millions in their first career, particularly a career in public service, like Clark's. :patriot:

[Catchawave]

24. I'm so glad his Fox paycheck comes in handy !

:crazy:

[CarolNYC]

17. Exactly so...

There was even the suggestion that Clark was undermining Chairman Dean somehow by appearing on Faux....

I think it's a great thing that tough, smart and strong Democrats like Dean and Clark appear on Faux and all of my reasons for thinking sp can be found on all of those old threads about Clark on Faux....

[CarolNYC]

25. The last time that Gen Clark was on Hannity...

...created maybe my favorite TV moment ever. That was the appearance where he kind of suckered Hannity into saying he supported the stand Bush had, at one time, taken on, was it South Korea?? Then, as Hannity is loudly and obnoxiously declaring "I agree with him, I agree with him" even as the General is trying to cut him off, Clark oh so politely says something to the effect that "he retracted that". Hannity, knowing he's been made to look totally the fool, harrumphs a bit and then says "well" all pissy and then, while Hannity's head is so obviously close to exploding right there on screen, Gen Clark laughs that great laugh of his...It is priceless and Gen Clark does it all so nicely, takes him down without even a hint of anger or meanness...the stealth takedown.

My Mom taped it and everyone I show it to, even those that have never seen Hannity before, just love it, the way the obviously obnoxious Hannity is taken down three, four, five pegs on national TV and nowhere to hide...I'm not sure that Gen Clark purposely drew Hannity into the trap but my teenage nephew (who's one of those who's never seen Hannity before) is convinced he did. Either way, it was a sweet moment. I wish the video was on the internet somewhere...

And, the General hasn't been on Faux in prime time since...hmmmm....

[Canuckistanian]

8. Very telling that Hannity, the BMOF wouldn't interview him personally

Do I detect a whiff of poultry here?

[AlCzervik]

19. I'm sure Hannity the asshat is scared shitless of Howard Dean.

Dean wouldn't take one second of his shit.

[rniel]

12. I think it's GREAT he's going on fox news

Some of the viewers there whether they realize it or not are getting disenchanted with the whole neocon run government. They need to hear someone from the other side who's passionate about their beliefs for a change. Not some wimpy wallflower 'Alan Colmes' or some of our democratic wishy washy congressmen.

[texpatriot2004]

14. Love you Howard. n/t

[bluedawg12]

16. It's good strategy from a strong voice.

Repugs have made it a point to bring their propaganda to liberal shows- we need to be heard far and wide.

[texpatriot2004]

21. Bravo. I agree. No more quiet nice guy.

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[GayCanuck]

18. Sean Hannity

to my circle of friends here in Canada is so stereotypical of the US conservative nitwit. How did he ever get a career in radio or TV? Granted, he is a cutie but can't speak and there isn't any hint of intelligence there. A right wing bimbo, I say.

[LiberalEconomist]

22. Sean Hannity like Rush Limbaugh

dropped out of college after one semester. Basically they have no education past high school, that couple with the fact that they are extreme right wingers is why they have a terrible time debating anyone who is up on the issues. Then again, a high school diploma appears to be quite enough for liberal minded people to hold their ownn in debates. The more you are able to think deeply about the issues the more liberal you become. Conservatives are superficial in their thinking.