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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:31 PM
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Democrats should unanimously endorse Roberts
Judge Roberts stated under oath that a right to privacy exists and that Roe v. Wade is settled law. He seems to be a man of integrity so we'll take him at his word. As a Constitutional scholar I'm sure he's aware that stare decisis cannot be reversed except under extreme circumstances. Of course, we don't agree with his other conservative viewpoints, but he still passes our liberal litmus test on abortion.


Put down your flame throwers for just a second...


Since a filibuster is out of the question we ought to focus our strategy on round 2. The Evangelical/Catholic alliance is the biggest core group of Rebublicans' support-- they can't win a national election without them. They are hesitant on Roberts because he won't make his position on abortion clear. With bush*s plummeting public support we need to drive a stake through the heart of the Republican's base and fracture their coalition for the next generation.

If we generate the meme that Roberts is soft on abortion then the Fundies will DEMAND that the next nominee is a foam-at-the-mouth pro-birth madman. The fatal flaw of Rove's cunning strategy of Fringe Government will be exposed to the sunlight: Republicans DON'T share basic American values. If he doesn't choose an extremist his fundie base will desert the party; if he nominates a zealot independents and moderates will flee. Its a lose-lose situation for them.

We have to push bush* into nominating someone we can filibuster. If we get 60% of the public to support a filibuster we have it made. It'll put some calcium in our leaders' backbones and then we can begin to undo all the damage that has been wrought.




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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:35 PM
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1. Can he "help" gnaw away at the right....
until it's small enough to be drowned in a bucket of blood?
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SammyBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:35 PM
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2. ARRRRRGH!!!!! Appeasement! NEVER AGAIN!!!
Fuck Judge Roberts. STONE WALL HIM ALL THE WAY TO ELECTION DAY!!!! FORCE HIM TO ANSWER QUESTION, or threaten a filibuster. IF Frist tries nuclear, Filibuster that too.

Bring in cots and food and Filibuster Roberts until he crawls back under his rock. The SCOTUS is TOO important!!!
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 10:13 PM
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13. you took the words right out of my mouth...
fuck roberts and fuck the dems who vote for him.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:37 PM
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3. Why not?
They sucked dick in the process...how pitiful can they get?
Not a presidential canidate in the bunch.........all losers.


Gore 2008, the real President elect from 2000
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Wabbajack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:37 PM
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4. Please
* wouldn't have appointed him if he wasn't against Roe. And the Robertsons will make sure their sheeple know it.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:39 PM
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5. Will get fooled again!
Who's "we," kemo sabe?
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Anywho6 Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:42 PM
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6. Thank you! I completely agree with you!
"Since a filibuster is out of the question we ought to focus our strategy on round 2."

I do believe with all my heart that someone far worse than Roberts is waiting around the corner and that our energy will be needed to address that person head on. And I don't mean "address" by making fun of the way they look or questioning their sexual orientation--some people (quite a few of them DUers) opposing the nomination of Roberts acted like teenagers instead of bringing sustenance to their arguments against Roberts.

Peace...
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:48 PM
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9. So where's your "sustenance" ? nt
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Anywho6 Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:51 PM
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10. For what? My opinion? n/t
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:44 PM
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7. Since it will likely not matter how many Dems oppose him
as he is likely to get through anyway, perhaps those who've said they will vote nay are actually voting their concience. In other words, maybe they don't wanna vote yea.

I think it would have been easier to get him through if he wasn't being nominated as chief justice as opposed to just a justice. As inexperienced as he seems, and as ellusive as he's been in his answers, I could understand why folks are feeling uneasy about giving him the top dog position on the court. Even so, there are those who say that being chief justice only means you get first refusal on writing the decision.
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:46 PM
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8. Wrong
Then tell me why Roberts did not list the NINTH Amendment as one of the amendments that he used as a base to find a right to privacy , since it is the Ninth amendment that Roe v. Wade is based on.

That ,to me, is telling that he will find a way to overturn Roe v wade by saying it was wrongly decided.

More than that, we need to know if he is a partisan hack and how he would have voted on Bush v Gore. Well, now we do know that he is in fact a partisan hack and will put ambition before consistency. He should have recused himself instead of finding that the Geneva conventions do not apply in a case at the same time he was told he was being considered for the Supreme Court.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:48 PM
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11. And we'll give them the Sudatenland too!
Peace in our time for sure!
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category5 Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 10:06 PM
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12. I have been posting the same thing you are saying
The smart strategy is to keep our powder dry for the Sandra Day
O"Connor replacement because THAT COULD SHIFT THE BALANCE.

Replacing right winger Rhenquist with another (questionable) right
winger does not change didly squat.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 10:42 PM
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14. Roberts lacks the experience and temperment of a justice
Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 10:45 PM by omega minimo
let alone a leapfrog to the Chief Justice.

"Foaming at the mouth" is worse than completely demented eyes and whiny defensiveness? Under unwelcome Democratic questions, he dropped his smooth, calm schtick and turned hostile and petulant. This is not an emotionally mature or balanced person.

Who told you he passed a "liberal litmus test" on the Right to Choose? Isn't "litmus test" Repugspeak?

The strategery that you are suggesting seems based on the assumption that when the time came, with their "frothing-at-the-mouth" candidate, they would play fair and not find ever new ways to manipulate the public, control the media and enable the candidate in concealing the real agenda.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 07:16 AM
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15. Wrong
Roberts is the nominee of the business wing of the rethugs. He is in place to give the corporations their way on all matters concerning labor, regulation and the environment. That's what the repugs are really about.

Yes, the next nominee will be a fire-breather and it won't matter if that one is beat down, it will just keep the pot stirred.

Don't confuse the tail with the dog.
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