Wes Clark is Really Taking One For the Team

[Schema Thing]

by being on Fox.

I watched the O'Reilly interview tonight, and Wes is getting the job done, no question about it; he's reaching the Fox viewers and making them think (for once in their lives).

BUT (here's the big but), if he does this too long, his political career will be in danger. O'Reilly deserves a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, not the kind of humble respect Clark gives him, even while arguing against him.

Bill O'Reilly is not fit to lick shit off the combat boots of Wes Clark. It's painful to watch them on split screen talking man to pimple, even though I know Clark is getting an important job done.

[tuvor]

1. You say that like O'Reilly's viewers have voter clout.

Isn't he in the viewer toilet right now?

[AtomicKitten]

2. He's "on staff" at Faux News

not likely he'll avoid appearing on Faux News

[zulchzulu]

3. Mr. Loofah Falafel and "the guys in the field over there"...pathetic!

There just so happen to be a lot of women serving over there...that could kick Mr. Loofah Falafel's chickenhawk draft-dodging yellow-tailed ass this way to Sunday.

To see this pathetic lying scum-sucking Bush shill trying to match his "wits" with Clark on the matters of war is utterly beyond anything Joe McCarthy did in the '50s.

When is O'Lielly going to be taken off the air?

[PeaceProgProsp]

4. He gets paid for it.

[Schema Thing]

5. With all due respect, duh.

[PeaceProgProsp]

6. I think many people might be under the impression that he's taking one

for the team without getting (well?) compensated for it.

Lots of people who like money would probably be willing to do the same as Clark.

[incapsulated]

7. You're right...

He's only doing this for the money.

*sigh*

:eyes:

[incapsulated]

9. Oh, and by the way...

Here's what else he does:

April 5th: "Path of a President" Dinner, Clinton Presidential Library, Little Rock - keynote speaker

April 6th: C-Span "Washington Journal" speaking on US policies on Iraq

April 8th: Association of State Democratic Chairs Quarterly Meeting with Chairman Dean, hosted by General Clark, Little Rock

April 9th: Alabama Democrats/Grassroots dinner at Doe's in Little Rock.

April 11th: Testimony: House Armed Services Committee on leadup to Iraq War

April 11th: Announcement Forum: House Democrats' GI Bill of Rights for the 21st Century

April12-15th: US Naval Academy Foreign Affairs Conference - featured speaker

April 16th: SoCal Grassroots/ 4 Star Democratic Club WesPAC fundraiser

April 16th: California Democratic Party Convention

April 18-19th: Global Economics conference, Los Angeles CA; "Global Overview" panel; "Emerging Europe" panel

April 21-23rd: Eurasian Media Forum. Global politics and the role of mass media.

April 23rd: Visit with President Nursultan Nazarbayev in Kazakhstan. Discusing bilateral relations, economics, democracy.

April 26th: Bill Maher "Real Time"

April 27th: NDN conversation with General Wesley Clark about America's Role in the World...at the home of Chris Heinz in NYC,

April 30th: White House Correspondants Dinner in DC.

May 4th: Center for American Progress, Washington DC, Homeland Security and Data Revolution - featured speaker

May 5th: Groundbreaking ceremoney, Lea County Democratic Party headquarters, Hobbs NM

May 5th: New Mexico Jefferson Jackson Dinner - keynote speaker

May 6th: The Atlantic Council and the Embassy of the Federal Republic of Germany --"Germany and NATO: The Next 50 Years" - speaker

May 13th: Arkansas Democrats Khakis & Catfish event

May 14th: Associated Press Editors Luncheon

May 14th: Democratic Party of Arkansas 2005 Jefferson-Jackson Day Dinner

May 17th: Mississippi Delta Grassroots Caucus in Washington D.C.

May 18th: Chicago Council on Foreign Relations-

May 18th: A New Strategy for America-- speaking engagement, Chicago

May 21st: Keynote speaker at ACLU of Georgia Annual Bill of Rights dinner:

May 23rd: Jimmie Lou Fisher Campaign Debt Payoff Fundraiser, Little Rock, AR

May 24th: Interoperable Communications and Emergency Preparedness Conference, Phoenix AZ

May 24th: Arizona Democratic Party Press Conference with Veterans

May 25th: Arizona Democratic Party "Democratic Vision" Speech, Burton Barr Central Library, Phoenix

May 28th: Democratic Party Memorial Day Radio Response

May 30th: Al Franken radio show

June 6th: Ed Schultz radio show

June 12th: Annual Flag Day Dinner-Manchester City Democratic Committee, NH- Keynote speaker

June 14th: Emergency Preparedness Communication Conference, Houston TX

June 19th: C-Span "Road to the White House"

June 22nd: Testifying --UN Task Force Congressional Hearing

June 22nd: Fundraiser for Congressman Lincoln Davis, Washington, DC, special guest

June 23rd: Senators' Democratic Policy Committee lunch, Washington DC, guest speaker

June 23rd: Fundraiser for Congressional Candidate Eric Massa NY-29, Washington DC, special guest; endorsed

June 27th-July 2nd - 78th Annual League of United Latin American Citizens National Convention -guest of honor

June 28th: Response to Presidential Address on Fox Special Report

June 29th: Letter in Wall Street Journal urging diplomatic strategy for Iraq

July 5-10th: Aspen Institute Ideas Seminar

July 11th: USA Today Op-Ed on Iraq and terrorism

July 15th-18th: National Clark Community Meet-Up, Little Rock AR

July 19th: Nextel Communications business forum, Indianapolis IN, spoke on emergency communications and Iraq War

July 20th: Democratic national security advisory group report

July 22nd: Endorsed Democratic candidate for US Senate, Paul Hackett Ohio-02

July 29th: Audio message for Maine Democrats re Muskie Lobster Fest 8/7

August 2nd: GOTV audio message for Paul Hackett OH-02

August 3rd - Congressman Charlie Rangel's 75th Birthday Gala, Tavern on the Green, NYC, Special Guest

August 7th - Maine Democratic Party Ed Muskie Annual Lobster Festival, Brunswick ME, Keynote Speaker

August 8th - Radio Interview, KPCC Radio (NPR Affiliate), 11-12pm PDT, "Air Talk" with Larry Mantle; "The Future of the Democratic Party"

August 10th - NewsRadio 620 KTAR (Phoenix) - "Real Life with David Leibowitz"

August 10th - Arizona Technology Council, keynote speaker

August 11th - WesPac Fundraiser, Washington DC

August 12th - George Soros 75th Birthday Party, Hamptons, New York

August 13th - 2005 Clark County Clinton Day Dinner, Arkadelphia AR, Keynote Speaker

August 14th: 9:25PM - History Channel's VJ Day 60th Anniversary Celebration

August 22nd: NPR "Morning Edition" interview - NATO and Darfur

August 26th: Washington Post Op-Ed "Before It's Too Late in Iraq" - Online Q&A

August 28th: "Meet the Press" - "War Council" with General McCaffrey; General Meigs and General Downing discussing the war on terror/Iraq

August 29th-September 2nd: Blogging at Talking Points Memo Cafe

August 30th: Wisconsin Public Radio - Iraq and the war on terror

August 30th: 11AM - Madison WI, WesPac Fundraiser, American Table Family Restaurant

August 30th: 12PM - Madison, WI, Fundraiser luncheon for the Wisconsin Democratic Party, Inn on the Park; press conference with veterans; will endorse endorse Gov Doyle/Lt Gov Lawton

August 30th: 3 PM - Boys & Girls Club, La Crosse with U.S. Rep Ron Kind

August 30th: 5PM - Private fundraiser for U.S. Rep. Ron Kind

August 30th: 6:00PM - La Crosse, WI, 4th Annual Wisconsin Corn Roast at the La Crosse County Fairground, West Salem

August 31st: Air America's "The Majority Report" - on terrorism, Hurricane Katrina and the National Guard

August 31st: Iowa Democratic Party fundraising breakfast, Decorah

August 31st: 12PM - Democratic Activists Lunch, Mason City, Iowa

August 31st: 4PM - Democratic Activists Meeting, Emmetsburg, Iowa

August 31st: 6PM - Iowa Democratic Party fundraiser, Okoboji, Iowa

September 1st: Iowa Democratic Party fundraising breakfast, Sioux City

September 1st: Alan Colmes radio show - Global Warming, Bush's poor handling of New Orleans disaster, and against timelines with respect to Iraq

September 2nd-4th: Villa d'Este International Workshop, Ambrosetti Strategic Workshop on Global Economy, Cernobbio, Italy

September 5th: Fox News, "Rebuilding after Hurricane Katrina"

September 6th-7th: Terrorism, Security & America's Purpose Conference, Washington DC, Featured Speaker

September 8th: AFSCME Congressional Candidate Boot Camp, Phoenix, AZ, Guest Speaker

September 10th: Clark Policy Brief introduced on CCN

September 11th: Amsterdam, Netherlands review of flood control

September 12th: Constitution Day, Rider University, New Jersey - keynote, "Impact of the Patriot Act on the U.S. Constitution"

September 13th: Fundraiser for Virginia House Democratic Caucus Chairman Brian Moran, Alexandria

September 14th: University of Florida, Gainesville, fourth anniversary of Sept. 11, 2001 commemoration

September 15th-17th: Clinton Global Initiative, climate change technology advisory board, New York City

September 20th: 'Out of Iraq' Congressional Caucus, Washington DC

September 23rd: Congressional Black Caucus Annual Legislative Conference, Washington DC

September 29th: Atlantic Treaty Association 51st General Assembly, Tallinn, Estonia

October 11th-12th: Campaigning with Tim Kaine, Virginia Governor's race

October 12th: Fredericksburg Forum, Virginia - "The Role of the United States in World Affairs" with Former U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and former U.S. Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleburger, University of Mary Washington

October 13th: Payne County Democrats fall celebration, the Brayfest, Stillwater, Oklahoma.

[renate]

19. that's not all he does

A friend of mine saw him speak at a conference (LUCKY!!!!!) on a day that isn't listed on this calendar.

Until I heard that, I had no idea that the superhuman schedule on his website didn't list all his public appearances. But evidently it doesn't.

Kind of a stark contrast to *'s six-week vacations and afternoon siestas, isn't it?

[incapsulated]

21. He doesn't sleep, lol

It worries me sometimes, but the man is a machine.

I saw him recently at Charlie Rangle's Birthday party, we came in at the same time! Said hello to Wes and Gert (who looked great, btw).

:D

[FrenchieCat]

20. So would those "Lotsa" who just want to keep the record straight do it

for nothing? If so, where in the fuck are they?

[Kingofalldems]

8. That's the only way a Dem should go on Fox

Get paid, then neither Hannity nor Oreilly can cut your mike and start talking over you.

[Texas_Kat]

10. Good point!

When you have a contract, both sides have rules.

The incoherent right has to provide him an opportunity to speak and Clark doesn't have to worry about them cutting off what he has to say. (or talking about him behind his back)

Looks like Clark got the better end of this one.

[usregimechange]

11. I think it helps him, I was very impressed w/ what he said tonight

[Clarkie1]

12. Here's what I think.

I think the main reason FOX has Clark on is they think it will hurt his chances of winning the 08' Democratic nomination by being on their station.

The primary reason Clark agreed to appear on FOX is because he believes he can open the minds of many most other Democrats would consider unreachable and unopenable. That, to him, is more important the the personal political gamble.

However, I think FOX has blown it; they have underestimated Clark and Democratic Primary voters. In the end, I believe his appearances will help him politically, not hurt him.

The FOX has been outfoxed.

[Dinger]

13. "Bill O'Reilly is not fit to lick shit off the combat boots of Wes Clark."

True, so true.

[FrenchieCat]

14. Bill Loofah O'lielly....

IS the shit off Bush's shoe....He's not even good enough to be shit on Clark's boots.

[Dinger]

16. Damn Frenchie, I Don't Think I Can Top That . . . But Give Me Time

I'll see what i can do:woohoo:

[loyalsister]

15. An exercise in futility

The only reason anyone watches O'reilly is to reinforce what they already believe. Anyone who thinks Clark can reach them is seriously deluded.

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17. I would have agreed with you at another time

But I've heard several stories, anecdotal I admit, of people who are FOX watchers being turned around by Clark. Some of them have some respect for him (probably because of his military background) and when he talks about Iraq and other issues, they listen.

[FrenchieCat]

18. It may be true that those who watch O'lielly are deluded.....

but even the deluded vote.

I'd rather be an optimist, otherwise we can just hang it all up!

Rosa Parks probably knew that she was fighting a losing battle, but that didn't seem to stop her.

[Texas_Kat]

22. A testimonial from last night appearance: WKC on Geraldo:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2130013&mesg_id=2130171

Looks like there may be some who need a little Clark truth to 'power' to wake them up. Seems to have worked for this 'elderly gentleman' the poster speaks of.