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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:30 PM
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Kerry Stumps and Fundraises in Iowa, for Iowa Candidates
Three stories from Kerry's visit to Iowa today to stump for a City Council candidate in Cedar Rapids and raise money for candidates in Iowa.

John Kerry Helps Raise Money For Women Candidates In Iowa
October 9th, 2005

From the news in Des Moines, IA…

Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry is urging Democratic activists to use next year’s midterm election to reshape the national debate on values.


MORE & LINKS - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=795

Kerry Stumps in Cedar Rapids for City Council Candidate
October 9th, 2005

Busy day for John Kerry today in Iowa, here’s the news from Cedar Rapids…

Senator John Kerry visited Cedar Rapids Sunday, but this time he wasn’t campaigning for himself. He was in town to support a candidate for the Cedar Rapids city council. Senator Kerry visited Iowa many times when he was running for president. And, during those visits he got to know Justin Shields.

MORE & LINKS - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=796

More Kerry News in Iowa
October 9th, 2005
More news from John Kerry’s visit to Iowa today…

Massachusetts Senator John Kerry made his way through Iowa Sunday making stops in Cedar Rapids, Iowa City, and Des Moines. Johnson County Democrats packed Elizabeth Tate High School in Iowa City, rallying the troops for upcoming elections. They also welcomed back a frequent visitor from last year, Senator John Kerry.

MORE & LINKS - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=797
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 12:17 AM
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1. Interesting pieces, I'm always glad to know what Kerry is up to.
Thanks for posting and the links.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:27 AM
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2. Please fellow Dems, not Kerry again.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:43 AM
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3. Why? Do you choose the media spin and the voting machines over the truth?
Edited on Mon Oct-10-05 07:46 AM by blm
The only people who should despise Kerry are corrupt government officials, since Kerry has investigated and exposed more government corruption than any lawmaker in modern history.

In fact, if the less knowledgeable among the left had realized this fact a few years back they wouldn't have played right into the media spin that Kerry was an empty suit who didn't deserve to be the nominee.

Why did you reply to a thread about 2006 races with a silly antiKerry whine? If the DNC had paid more attention to 2002, then 2004 would have been alot easier for us.

Be glad that some of our Dems are working on 2006.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 06:42 PM
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 06:50 PM
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7. Folks need to get authority to have an opinion? Do tell.
Interesting.

In no particular order:

So blm is not a friend of the American people because he supports Kerry's efforts for candidates for 2006? O-B-K-B.

Actually, I was in a battleground state. That was no half effort. The man exhausted himself. It just wasn't enough (unless you believe in frawd, that is.)

Who's cause. Who is the "our" in our cause?

blm is one of the more reasonable Kerry supporters, actually. Usually has plenty of info to back up what he posts.

Skull and Boner? Is that what happens when a frat boy gets excited?

S & B = B & S, btw.



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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 01:08 PM
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24. Speaking of authority, almost all of my posts to you were deleted.
I have no idea why. Do you?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 06:54 PM
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8. What does that have to do with Kerry campaigning for 2006?
It would be different if the OP posted "Yea for Kerry in 2008" but that's nowhere to be found.

I realize that Iowa is the early caucus, but it seems someone says this no matter what the topic at hand is. Someone posts about a speech or legislation and the the next thing we know it's "No Kerry in 2008!"

Personally I don't like "rah rah" posts that have no other purpose than to push for a candidate. At least post about an event or a speech or a news item or something.

But still, this ain't one of those. It's about Kerry working on 2006. Because, you know, 2006 comes before 2008. Good to know he can at the very least read a calendar. Sadly, not everyone can, apparently.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:10 PM
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:16 PM
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11. Refresh me. What did I say? I barely remember last week, let alone
Edited on Mon Oct-10-05 07:17 PM by LittleClarkie
several months ago.

btw, I don't think Kerry's bill to get enough funding for heat for the poor this winter was meant to help the rich somehow.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2148948&mesg_id=2148948

Also, are you responding to me as if I were blm? The answer you just gave me sounds alot like what you were saying to him. Do you think Kerry supporters in general are Republican plants?

I have no idea what you're talking about re: purposely insulting a fellow democracy fighter. Like I said, remind me of what I'm supposed to have said.

And of course you are wrong about me being a plant. But I don't see how telling you so will suddenly make you reconsider.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:42 PM
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:53 PM
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14. We also disagree on whether or not I'm a plant
Edited on Mon Oct-10-05 07:54 PM by LittleClarkie
or am using freeper tactics. And I feel no need whatsoever to present my bonifides so that I may be judged "okey dokie".

And as to whether or not Skull and Bones is even worth of mention. I don't. I find it ludicrous each time.

And if the topic isn't 2008, then I also disagree with bringing it up merely because Kerry is being discussed.

I have a disagreement with folks who go around calling folks freepers and plants.

I have a disagreement with people who think that if someone doesn't think as they do then they must not be supporting the cause. Horsehockey.

As for Kerry, I hope he is running in 2008. If he's started already, fine. It appears everyone with an eye in that direction has started already. So why not him as well.

But if someone wants to post Kerry news if the guy is up to something, I don't see what the hubbub is. Neither do I have issues with Clark news, Gore news, Clinton news or Dean news. As I said, I'm not partial to "rah, rah" threads, but that's my problem.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 08:35 PM
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17. Then why are you on this thread?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 08:38 PM
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18. Free pizza
Hey, that's why I'M here. ;)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 08:33 PM
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15. You have just called 2 people Republican plants
and said they slimed you. I don't really see that they did. Additionally, you chose to come on this thread rather than 100s of others with no Kerry content. You then ignore the content provided - it was not "Yay! Kerry, you are the only person in the country deserving of the presidency" This post gves links to three Iowa papers talking about 3 events that Kerry did in support of Democratic candidates this November.

Read the Des Moines one - it is clear that Kerry's immediate goal is to help build better grass roots and invigorate the local party. He refers to this as a responsibility as a former nominee, Senator, and public person. If he is able to motivate people to become involved and to build grassroots comparable to the Republicans. This will help who ever the candidate is. He is not the only one doing this - Howard Dean is. They reach different people - and we need all of them.

I am glad that there are some Democrats looking at organizational problems and trying to fix them. Using the 527s to do GOTV was a very bad idea - they couldn't promote a specific candidate. Likewise, Gore is attempting to work on the media issue - where things are balanced against us. Not everything is framing and using the right words.

This is a better situation than 2002, when Clinton and Gore were nowhere to be seen. We need every leader we have cheerleading for good local and state candidates. I'm amazed that after 2 years of campaigning and losing, that Kerry has the energy and committment to go to these small events to help the party.

He is ambitious and he may run again, but the primaries are when this will be sorted out. He will have the disadvantages of not being the "exciting new kid on the block" and he will not be the media darling - because he never was. So, the threshold will be high. (The threshold for Hillary is likely to be low as she will be perceived as getting Bill again.)

I saw Kerry at a similar event in NJ. He really did make a very good case about getting involved locally - which I did. My county got over 450 emails/phone numbers of people who signed in (which was optional). This is a very valuable resource. He seemed very sincere about why he was doing what he is - and he deserves credit for it. (credit does not equal voting for him again)

Your antagonism towards a good Democrat makes you the more likely Republican plant.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 08:35 PM
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16. He's also pushing for Byrd and Casey as well
last time I looked, neither W. Va nor Pennsylvania were important in the primaries. Not right off, anyway.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 01:05 PM
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23. I must say that you and LittleClarkie have a distinct advantage
over me. If you will note, almost all of my posts have been deleted. Why? I have no idea. They were certainly mild by comparison to many post on the DU.

This is most discouraging.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 01:13 PM
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26. Just got back to this thread, but my guess would be that implying another
is a plant or operative is against the rules.

But, I can only surmise from the reply posts.

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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 01:18 PM
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27. Thanks for the response. I'd feel better to believe that such was
the case rather than being an example of straight political bias.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 01:33 PM
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28. Skinner just confirmed your guess. It is expressly against the
board rules to accuse a poster of being an operative for the Conservative side. I can live with that. I'll just keep my suspicions to myself.

ladjf

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:21 PM
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29. heheh...if it makes you feel any better, I often have similar suspicions,
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 02:22 PM by blm
but of anyone who trashes Kerry because of the over 30 years of GOP operatives working against him beginning with the Nixon WH.

It ramped up when he was working to uncover IranContra and BCCI. The campaign against him then was punctuated with planted articles and accusations against him. I also suspect some Dem lawmakers who sided with Reagan and Bush OVER Kerry at the time.

So, your thought process is not unique. It just may need a tuning.

The National Security Archives tends to be the best place to find the facts that BushInc finds most uncomfortable.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:31 PM
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12. You're the one talking about 08 - it is about 05 and 06.
Thanks to any dems who will campaign for democratic candidates in 05 and 06.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 10:58 PM
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19. WOW!
The man is out raising money for Dems in 05 and 06 races and stumping for them. How about a little gratitude. His endorsement goes a long way. Where was Al when he should have been doing this in 01? Growing a beard, I think.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:26 PM
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30. In fairness to Gore, he was nearly destroyed by the GOP onslaught against
Edited on Tue Oct-11-05 02:43 PM by blm
him then, and the media did everything they could to help in that destruction.

Kerry had the business of the Senate and campaign promises he could still work to achieve from that position.

But, I do wish Gore had worked to expose the GOP control over the voting machines and media. It would have made a huge difference in 2004.
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 09:03 AM
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21. Your speaking for yourself of course, I like John Kerry. n/t
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 02:26 PM
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31. Oookay...
so he's not allowed to speak out on hot-button issues, he's not allowed to campaign for Dem congressional candidates, and he's not even allowed to think about running for Prez again.

Tell me, Kerry-bashers, exactly what can Kerry do?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:52 AM
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4. Glad they're concentrating on 2006 races for Dems. I wish MacAuliffe did
more in 2002 to push our candidates all over the country. If he had been more engaged with those races he would have been better able to notice the discrepancies of the voting machines on election night.

What a difference that would have made for any Dem candidate in 2004.

2006 will set the stage for a final sweep in 2008.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 06:49 PM
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6. Thanks Kerry for getting
out there and working for the 2006 elections..maybe we can win if all our Dems will do this.

It's not just campaigning ..the media is determined to go down with the * ship. It's not a fair fight by any stretch of the imagination.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 07:02 PM
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9. He's been doing this for a while now
It's all about 06 right now.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 01:09 PM
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25. True. He, Dean and Clark have been working overtime on 2006.
Methinks they have been working off the same page for quite awhile now.

Interesting trio.
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 09:01 AM
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20. Good to see he is out there showing support for our 2006
candidates. It is also nice to see the enthusiastic crowds.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 10:29 AM
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22. Good for him.
I don't doubt this trip could be a scouting mission for 2008. But at the same time Kerry's heart is in the right place in helping candidates in 2006. He's doing a great job stumping for Democratic candidates across the country. Which is exactly what we need a high profile speaker like Kerry doing!

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