I have a proposal for the Dean and Clark camps :

[kentuck]

One or both are going down. It is obvious to me that the media whores are ignoring General Clark for whatever reason?? And they are doing their best to destroy Howard Dean. Now, I support John Kerry but I do not like what I see is happening. And John Kerry will be a giant of an improvement over George W Bush, if he could win the race? I'm becoming very suspicious of the motives of the opposition media.

Why do they fear Howard Dean and General Clark so much?? Is it because they are both a threat to the tax system and to the gravy trains of drug companies and pharmaceuticals? They fear they might succeed in bringing about real change in Washington?

But there is an old saying: "United we stand and divided we fall". Before it reaches a point where neither candidate can salvage their campaign, they should act to counter whatever or whomever is conspiring to prevent the will of the people. I propose that the Dean and Clark camps should join forces.

How would that happen? They should agree to throw their support behind the strongest candidate, whether Clark or Dean, after the next series of primaries, with the condition that the one that has to drop out will get the VP position in the winner's administration. We do not know if that will be Dean or Clark? But together, their forces will be strong enough to compete. Otherwise, we can see the writing on the wall.

The media is not our ally. They are controlling the direction that this election is going. They must be countered just as much and as vigorously as George W Bush must be countered.

I put out this idea not with any high hopes that I think it might happen but only as an avenue to assist the will of the people...

[blm]

1. Use pure logic. They declared Kerry dead for months.

Edwards, too. Both of their fundraising dried up. Dean and Clark camps benefitted from that.

It's up to Dean and Clark to pull through what's happening to them now. They'll either pull through or not. I think Clark will.

[cid]

2. I posted a similar idea earlier today ..great minds think alike :)

I doubt unfortunately either camp will do that, unfortunately. but its a great idea :)

[kentuck]

3. Yes. The supporters of both camps think they are gonna win....

But, I wish I did not have this gift. :)

[patricia92243]

4. The media will choose our nominee and then they will choose our president

and it's not going to be a democrat

[lastknowngood]

5. Sorry we have to fight for our country

Kerry is a 48 state loser. And a guarantee of repug 2/3 majority
senate.

[bicentennial_baby]

6. I tend to agree

I'm definitely open to the idea, but how does it get put into meaningful action? :shrug:

[slinkerwink]

20. we could create a forum to discuss flyers to be passed out

that would emphasize the successes of both Dean and Clark, and also do some opposition research on Kerry.

[poskonig]

7. Blaming losses on the media is a mark of a loser.

If the media was all-controlling, we'd never win. While if we have a chance of winning, the media is not all-controlling. A paradox.

Perhaps Kerry is getting the winners questions and attention because he finally jumped ahead, while Dean and Clark are getting losers questions and less attention because they lost.

But that would make too much sense, and contradict peoples' beliefs their candidate is the messiah.

[Democrats unite]

8. Give me a break!

We are not as easily programmed as some.

Your logic is ludicrous, The primary season just Got under way, Clark & Dean are both still in Great shape!

Here is some food for thought for you, when I think of Kerry, I think of the 500 + soldiers not coming home. And yes I can lay the blame squarely at his feet with a bunch of other people.


On edit: put that in your maytag & spin it!

[kentuck]

10. It's compressed. It could be over very soon.

Just keep your eye on the ball.

[NashVegas]

9. Why They Fear Dean - My Take

1. FCC reform. 750k people wrote letters last year and were ignored. They not happy.

2. Dean's "gaffes." With so many of them, he gets hit over the head 1st, then people think about it and go "well yeah, but he's right." Dean is sparking dialog in a debate TPTB can't control. They don't like that one bit.

Remember, it's been much said that on cable TV news they present a liberal view, a conservative view, but control the debate by keeping certain subjects off the table. Dean puts those issues on the table.

Someone in Free Republic said it best: (paraphrasing) the thought of coverage of Dean influencing the national debate for 6 months scares me.

[CertusLaurus]

11. Actually I see something else happening since Iowa........

I have noticed the media appear to be in "What have we done!!" mode. They think they suceeded in bringing Dean down, but think they did so too early. Now they are clamoring to restore Dean as the frontrunner because they "think" he will be easier to beat than Kerry. What they aren't considering is that Dean has been building a NATIONAL campaign that will slowly overtake Kerry's momentum. They also don't realize that Dean is the only one who can bring in the hordes of new voters into the process that will make a Dem victory possible.

Of course it would also help ratings if the nomination were prolonged. When they thought Dean was going to run away with it, they sniped at him to make the race closer, now that they think Kerry will clean it up before March, they want to move Dean back up.

[knight_of_the_star]

12. I think the expression you are looking for is

"The enemy of mine enemy is my friend."

Sorry, but Dean is on his way down while Clark is on his way up.

[TexasPatriot]

15. a good trippi analysis

http://www.prospect.org/weblog/

[kerry-is-my-prez]

16. OMG! Trippi blew through all but $5 million of the $40 million....

No wonder he's being fired.... THAT is not good. Especially since we know how Dean feels about overspending.

[Jerseycoa]

17. Going from thread to thread

Bits and pieces popping up everywhere. Thanks for posting the link. This story is taking on tragic proportions, giving new meaning to "the buck stops here." I'm stunned.

[kaitykaity]

13. I've never seen a "brokered convention" before.

:evilgrin:

Dean/Clark is my dream ticket. Always was, always
will be.

[kentuck]

14. That's the ticket!

That would be so powerful if they could reach some type of compromise and join forces. They both have a strong base of supporters. Whether or not either can win alone is debatable. It would be like an insurance policy and both sides would win. Otherwise, it is all or nothing - perhaps for both sides. If you think about it, Clark could be out after next Tuesday, if he doesn't win a state. Likewise, it is possible that Dean may not win a state next Tuesday. Actually, I think it is probably more likely that Dean might not win a state than Clark. If neither of them wins a state, a lot of people will have had their voices silenced, to a large degree, because they will not have the same confidence that change will occur....

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

18. Corporate Media DOES NOT want Dean...period.

I'm convinced that the media is being led to destroy Dean's chances at a fair fight. Kerry has been anointed by the corporate media, because the conglomerate ownership knows that Kerry will be business friendly and poses no real threat to their power base. Hell, Kerry comes from that same Skull-n-Bones, Bilderburger, elitist world-domination crap crowd. I'm surprised he didn't make it to Davos this year to hear Cheney speak.

We are but sheep in the field of media misinformation...

JB

[slinkerwink]

19. I'd be willing to join forces with Clark supporters to bring down Kerry

because I KNOW Kerry is going to lose the general election! I'd rather have Dean or Clark take the nomination instead.

[hellhathnofury]

21. That's my position.

I apologize for any nasty insinuations I ever made about Clark.