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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:04 PM
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Impeachment. 51% want it. 45% don't. "These results are stunning"...
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Zogby_Americans_support_consideration_of_impeachment_1104.html

A new poll of likely voters by Zogby International has found that a majority of Americans support Congress considering the impeachment of President Bush if he “did not tell the truth about his reasons for going to war with Iraq,” RAW STORY has learned.

The poll, to be released this afternoon, finds that 51 percent of likely voters want Congress to eye impeachment, while 45 percent do not. It was commissioned by AfterDowningStreet.org, a coalition of progressive groups seeking a Congressional investigation of the events leading up to war in Iraq.

Among all adults surveyed, the numbers were higher: 53 percent supported impeachment, while 42 percent did not. The poll, which has a +/- 2.9% margin of error, interviewed 1,200 U.S. adults from Oct. 29 through Nov. 2. Not surprisingly, Democrats supported the consideration of impeachment by a broad margin (76 percent) while Republicans opposed (66 percent). However, 29 percent of Republicans told Zogby pollsters that they supported Congress examining impeachment over Iraq.

"These results are stunning," AfterDowningStreet.org co-founder Bob Fertik said in a statement. "A clear majority of Americans now supports President Bush's impeachment if he lied about the war. This should send shock waves through the White House - and a wake-up call to Democrats and Republicans in Congress, who have sole power under the Constitution to impeach President Bush."

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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:06 PM
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1. And this news comes
as they riot in the streets of Argentina.

When are WE THE PEOPLE going to pour into the streets of this great nation?
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:07 PM
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2. Exactly.
Where is the outrage?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:52 PM
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10. 2 full time jobs to pay the mortgage
the gas bill, etc., puts a healthy fear into most people.

plus 2 hours of commuting per day, plus a media brownout on the truth, plus the non-stop vilification of protestors as traitors, plus the lack of focus from the organizers many feel when attending protests (its the war, not mumia), plus the complicated issue of the war, and the complicating spin, plus no draft, plus the tired 2-party system that only benefits the oligarchy.

that all adds up to a feeling of pointlessness, in both voting & protesing.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:08 PM
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3. Has Zogby released this poll "today," or is this another
Raw Story exclusive?
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:10 PM
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5. The 45%
Are those the same ones that Tina Fey on SNL defined as believing that Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs to church?
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:10 PM
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4. The Republicans...
They impeach lying presidents, don't they?
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:14 PM
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6. They want "consideration" for impeachment.
That's a little different.

I want impeachment. Period.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:25 PM
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7. It IS stunning
45% of the electorate apparently thinks it's okay if the president lies us into war with thousands dead and billions wasted.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:29 PM
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8. C'mon
That's not what those people think and you know it.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:41 PM
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9. Then how would you read that result?
If 45% of the respondents wouldn't consider impeaching Bush even if he lied us into war, then I conclude that they favor having a president lie us into a war. And the war at hand has killed thousands and wasted billions, so I presume that they're in favor of that, as well, since those are undisputed facts.
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 04:55 PM
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11. I would conclude the same thing as you what else is there to think.n/t
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 05:23 PM
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13. I agree
If these people are willing to give a President a pass AFTER it has been proven he lied us into war, then I supose that 45% of us like the idea of us being a country of war criminals.

A better question would be "Did Bush lie us into war?"....why aren't we seeing a poll on that?
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 05:53 PM
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14. Gee
Edited on Fri Nov-04-05 05:56 PM by Nederland
Perhaps they would disagree with your premise that he lied us into war?

Just maybe? :eyes:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 11:13 AM
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16. No, read the question again
The premise of the question is if President Bush didn't tell the truth about his reasons for going to war with Iraq, would you support impeachment? The question is such that whether the respondent thinks he lied or not is irrelevant; it posits that Bush didn't tell the truth.

And under that premise, 45% of the respondents said that they were fine with being lied into a war. The present war has cost thousands of lives and billions of dollars. I'm drawing the conclusion that those people are fine with that.

If you want to disagree, try to do so on the facts at hand, rather than trying to tell me what I think.
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 05:03 PM
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12. 51%...isn't that a mandate? /nt
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 06:02 PM
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15. That's a higher percentage than those who wanted Clinton impeached
and look what happened to him.
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