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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 12:41 PM Original message |
Is the NYT position on removing Sharpton racist? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. They want to lock out Kucinich.. |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. Saying he represents "millions and millions of black Americans" |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Sharpton brings up key issues that affect black voters |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Not in the world we like to call "real", rob. It isn't just lipservice to |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:24 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. You are 100% right. |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 09:12 PM Response to Reply #25 |
70. Very clearly put |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
42. With respect to Kucinich, |
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maryallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 09:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
72. Both anti-war, too ... |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 09:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
69. I'll pay you $50 for you moniker! |
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poskonig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'm not certain why it is racist. |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Is that how Keyes ran? As "a spokesman for millions and millions of black |
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poskonig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 09:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
74. "make it in the massa's world?" |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 11:04 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. That's irony, Posk. |
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Dark Star (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. There is a |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. It's more that |
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RichM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 12:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. This is the real reason. (I was going to say it - but you beat me to it.) |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. Don't they also want Kucinich out of the debates too? |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
28. Kuchinich is expendable and irrelevent in the NYT view |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
47. hes the only union card holder |
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Lefta Dissenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. and locking Kucinich out is |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
29. Locking Dennis out is a side issue, camouflage n/t |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
6. offensive but not racist |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Kucinich and Sharpton are the only "left voices" in the race? |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Those are two separate questions. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-04 10:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
81. "Lefty voices" were heard |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 09:04 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. a matter of noblesse oblige |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 02:16 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. They have demonstrated their lack of support among Democrats |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 05:41 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Let's explore that reasoning. |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Yes, but the voting class is not "left," if anything it is more right |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
9. I think it is overcautious. Since they also want to ban Kucinich, I don't |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
30. Please see post 29 in this thread n/t |
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DuctapeFatwa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Well if it camouflage, it is being mighty widely used |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-02-04 08:20 AM Response to Reply #32 |
83. Sharpton has been in debate after debate, |
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Mass_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
10. no its just stupid |
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lastknowngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
11. not really the fringe candidates should have already |
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Indiana Democrat (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
12. Yeah...It's ALL about RACISM!!! |
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jsw_81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
16. NO |
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Dark Star (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Secretary Powell |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Has Kerry commented on this as yet? |
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jsw_81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Whatever |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
41. If anyone is a "fringe" candidate, it is John Kerry |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
55. a credible black candidate in the race like Secretary Powell?! BWAHAHA |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. you see what I mean ... |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 09:00 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. It was sincere unfortunately & yes... this is how we merge with the Right |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
19. The NYT isn't stupid. They cover by throwing Dennis to the wolves |
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jsw_81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. Sharpton brings a "level of honesty" to the proceedings?!? |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:50 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. Ask Howard Dean about that. eom |
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evil_orange_cat (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
22. they must hate white people too |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
45. I didn't say they were stupid. Kuchinich and, to a degree, Jo-mentum |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
52. they hate working class union card holding whites like kucinich NYTimes is |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
23. In a sense it is racist and classist |
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jsw_81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Classist? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Who he IS doesn't matter, the VIEWPOINT he represents isn't |
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jsw_81 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:41 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Well his "viewpoint" has won less than one percent of the vote |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. his viewpoint has won less than one percent of the vote in two lily white |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. Please Mike Higgins. Please don't do this. Don't make you add you |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 05:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Uh, sorry. I won't do it again. Honest. eom |
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Dark Star (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 07:51 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. Referring you to |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Added. Damn you. |
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Piltdown13 (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 09:15 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Me too, I hope |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 11:43 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. Lol - All of you |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
51. yep the black viewpoint should be left out of the debate |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Right. We don't exist. Don't pay taxes. Why should we have a voice? |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:28 PM Response to Reply #33 |
56. DK is the only union card holder Racist and Classist=NYTimes |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
24. No. |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 11:14 PM Response to Reply #24 |
76. Let me explain something |
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tmwat (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
34. Don't think so |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
36. Not racism because they want Kucinich out too |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
54. racism and classism DK is the only union card holder |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
38. On second thought |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
40. I tend to agree with you |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
43. yes and to exclude DK is classist (only union member) |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-04 11:07 AM Response to Reply #43 |
80. Kucinich earns over $135,000 a year |
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jenk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
46. no, sharpton should be allowed to campaign, but with the debates... |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. yep we cant have any blacks add their voice to the debates |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. But there's the problem, Jenk |
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arewethereyet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
53. not racist, just arrogant yet true |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. The debates are about choosing a President. |
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corporatewhore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 04:42 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. yeah why do we need a black mans voice in the debates any way |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 05:23 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. It that were true, if you ask me Clark would be the only guy on the stage |
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Piltdown13 (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 09:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
73. I'm starting to think debates are actually about generating soundbites |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. Are? In regard to arrogant? |
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arewethereyet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-04 11:33 PM Response to Reply #63 |
82. the arrogance is in voicing an opinion at all |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
64. Absolutely. They don't want Bush's biggest opponents to speak. Kucinich |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-31-04 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
77. NYT racist? Maybe, but I am finding your reasoning a little questionable |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-01-04 01:02 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Representing or bringing a message? Not mutually exclusive IMHO. |
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