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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 07:02 AM Original message |
Man... What an image. I am so distressed and most mothers would be. |
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mandyky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
1. What are you talking about? |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 07:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yeppers |
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koopie57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 07:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I remeber when I first heard about this |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
4. Could it be we have ended up with a service that likes to be bad? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
5. I think if your husband is suicide bombing all day long - you likely have |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Maybe we should start doing the same here? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. If she knows about his crimes.. she does go to jail. |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
159. If she floats she's a witch and is burned. If she drowns-not a witch! |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:13 PM Response to Reply #159 |
161. How did you get here from there? ???????????? |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:14 PM Response to Reply #161 |
165. You are saying it's fine to arrest anyone around, because if they are |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #165 |
172. Like I said - maybe to someone else - mother and babies are separated |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:17 PM Response to Reply #161 |
170. Because Torture worked so well against the witches. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:37 PM Response to Reply #170 |
184. I'm against torture. Who here is for it? |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
262. Opposing a foreign occupation is not a "crime" |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #262 |
266. The vast majority of the Iraqis are not in the insurgency and do not want |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:44 PM Response to Reply #266 |
277. I believe if the husband is innocent, |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 03:46 AM Response to Reply #15 |
324. No where is probable cause mentioned in these women's detention |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:30 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Oh, of course. It would be HER fault! |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. You don't think that loosing the opportunity to breast feed her baby |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:02 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Blame the victim mentality.....nt |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. No. I'm worried about her kids. I don't think the baby having breast |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:46 AM Response to Reply #27 |
63. Reading through the thread, I don't see anyone claiming that... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Well I agree with your last point. The woman has more serious issues |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:39 PM Response to Reply #69 |
114. My last point - the bush administration invaded Iraq based on deception... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. Read assassin's gate and then we can talk. Mother has found or put |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #119 |
138. Breastfeed & get separated from your baby, get arrested/kidnapped... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:08 PM Response to Reply #138 |
155. I'm sorry Sapphire. I'm argueing with 5 other people. Just me alone. |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:32 PM Response to Reply #155 |
181. Feel sorry for you? I feel sorry that you lack empathy for this woman. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:37 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. I am against this type of invasion. I am for the geneva convention. I am |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #183 |
207. You hold him to the same account as Rumsfeld??? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #207 |
209. By perhaps married to a war criminal - I mean both that he could |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:22 PM Response to Reply #209 |
220. So, according to you, he IS guilty, thus detaining his wife was justified. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #220 |
230. You think he is innocent? I think tha on aveage he may kill 5 people |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:43 PM Response to Reply #230 |
242. Please provide links to your "facts" regarding this man's guilt. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:48 PM Response to Reply #242 |
246. Assasin's Gate goes into how as soon as insurgency started - 30 |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:03 PM Response to Reply #246 |
256. On what page of "Assassin's Gate" is THIS man discussed? On what page... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:18 PM Response to Reply #256 |
268. It talks about the insurgency and the icrease - 30 fold - in murders. |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #268 |
272. Again - On what page of "Assassin's Gate" is THIS man discussed? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:58 PM Response to Reply #272 |
284. The insurgency is disgussed in the second half. |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:32 PM Response to Reply #284 |
297. On what page is THIS WOMAN'S HUSBAND discussed??? |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:03 PM Response to Reply #119 |
147. PS - Why do you avoid answering my questions? |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #147 |
153. Because they have no FACTS or CITATIONS to back up their |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:09 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. Someone said the woman being separated from her baby was the |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:13 PM Response to Reply #156 |
163. I said THE KIDNAPPING AND TORTURE was the worst thing going on in her life |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:20 PM Response to Reply #163 |
173. That's not what I said at all. It just isn't. n/t |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
264. Nice apology for recognized war crimes, Applegrove |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #264 |
271. I think the perpetuators of the wars are the war criminals. Not the ones |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #63 |
104. Well said!! |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:34 PM Response to Reply #104 |
109. I would add that she has a suicide monster husband who kills civilians |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #109 |
127. Got a link for that? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:00 PM Response to Reply #127 |
142. This war and Rummy going in not to win it is awful. I think all people |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #142 |
152. "Why is her husband an insurgent?" |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #152 |
158. French in WWII didn't have the option of elections. And childrens were |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #158 |
171. Those elections... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #171 |
174. The french were not in a civil war. The french were either going to |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #171 |
175. The reasoning here seems to be "there were elections, so if people |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #175 |
188. I think when you use terrorism and killing civilians - I think your morals |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:44 PM Response to Reply #188 |
191. You do not answer my question. If the opponent uses "immoral" methods, |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:52 PM Response to Reply #191 |
195. Torture is bad. I'm not sure that trying to round up insurgents to stop |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #195 |
200. She was NOT SUSPECTED OF ANYTHING. The news article, |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #200 |
203. LIke you said. Arresting people innocent happens all the time in Iraq. |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #203 |
204. "Happens all the time" = makes it right to do? ????? ???? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #204 |
210. I don't know why the wife of someone who is likely turning his neck |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:16 PM Response to Reply #210 |
215. You did NOT answer the question of whether "it happens all the time" |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #215 |
219. I think ended the war fast is the right thing to do. Seems like this insur |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:25 PM Response to Reply #219 |
221. If they were willing to kidnap his wife, for no other reason than she was |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #221 |
233. If the insurgents make peace - they tend to go free. I think the 100 |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #233 |
234. Why do you provide no citations for anything you say? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:43 PM Response to Reply #234 |
240. The sitations for my take on what it is like on the ground - come from |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #240 |
243. You did not name the book or author of Gandhi biography, that says that |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #243 |
248. I never said he was a pedophile or a molestor. I never said he assualted |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:55 PM Response to Reply #248 |
250. What did making a comment that Gandhi was a pervert have to do with |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:16 PM Response to Reply #250 |
267. You put in a few quotes. One was from ghandi and it reminded me. Sorry |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:28 PM Response to Reply #267 |
274. By the way there are no Gandhi quotes in any of my posts here. |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #267 |
290. I quoted Ghandi, not Mayberry |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 05:42 PM Response to Reply #290 |
304. Gandhi. |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 07:35 PM Response to Reply #304 |
306. Thank you |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #306 |
307. I've started. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 09:18 PM Response to Reply #307 |
310. I wondered when I said the slur - who wrote the book and why the worst |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 09:16 PM Response to Reply #290 |
309. I concur. |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #195 |
202. It's not being done to gangbanger relatives for a reason |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #202 |
212. War is a crime. I'm against that. And anyone who runs a sloppy one |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:19 PM Response to Reply #142 |
269. Why is her husband an insurgent? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:26 PM Response to Reply #269 |
273. I think what I heard was that it was the wives of the leadership of |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #273 |
291. No |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #291 |
293. Why. How do you think all those people died? Murders went up to |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:36 PM Response to Reply #293 |
298. American bombs and bullets... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:40 PM Response to Reply #298 |
300. Well. USA was not out at night on the nights that 30 murder a night |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:05 PM Response to Reply #109 |
316. Uhmm, the wife of a "suicide monster/bomber" |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:24 PM Response to Reply #316 |
317. There you go. I said she had more serious issue to deal with |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
102. How do you know the husband is a "suicide bomber"? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:32 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. He is a leader of the insurgency. The insurgents are not attacking |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:51 PM Response to Reply #27 |
315. Where is your information about the husband coming from? |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
90. It sounds like you are certain that her husband is a murderer |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:23 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. I think the intel on who the "leaders" are of any insurection is usually |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:34 PM Response to Reply #97 |
107. And you base this on? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. The leaders of a movement need followers. The followers need a leader. |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:14 PM Response to Reply #111 |
164. How do you know this guy was a leader? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:23 PM Response to Reply #164 |
176. DId I say their only weapons are turning people into bombs and |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #97 |
154. I don't share your faith |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:12 PM Response to Reply #154 |
160. Then our assumptions & faith is different. So be it. |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Having engorged breasts |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. And you know they did nothing to help her with that. No |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Right on it took 9 posts before thought crimes was brought up. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. I'm sorry, this is bothering me |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Part of it is satirical. I cannot believe the worst thing going on in this |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I think you're taking a huge leap in logic here |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Well the original poster was assuming the woman knew nothing |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:14 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Again, I ask you. How are you so sure the husband is guilty? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:21 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. I am Applegrove. Don't say that! I am not. I just don't think that the |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
113. Applegrove |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:48 PM Response to Reply #113 |
122. Would you expect them to do more or less to win the war? The war |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #122 |
143. OK |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:16 PM Response to Reply #143 |
167. But I think being detained as the wife of a leader of the war (takes two) |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:28 PM Response to Reply #167 |
178. Agreed on all points |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:47 PM Response to Reply #178 |
193. Read Assasin's Gate. The author goes 3/4 of the way. And let's |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:53 PM Response to Reply #36 |
131. I think that what some of the poster are wondering is how you can assume |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #131 |
144. Not only is it against the Geneva convention, it's against the UCMJ, |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:16 PM Response to Reply #144 |
169. I had missed that post |
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phylny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 06:06 PM Response to Reply #144 |
331. Please, please! Do not confuse us with |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:02 PM Response to Reply #131 |
145. Well if he's still alive after two three years - he aint strapping on the |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #145 |
166. No. It never says wives of leaders |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:25 PM Response to Reply #166 |
177. I'm not casting stones. I'm saying the worst of her problems is not that |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:38 PM Response to Reply #177 |
185. Yes, her life is in turmoil |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:54 PM Response to Reply #185 |
196. I hear ya. I was intolerant. I hate war. Especially those who intentionall |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #145 |
279. Not every insurgent is a suicide bomber, Applegrove |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #279 |
287. They spend a good deal of time killing other factions or civilians |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
329. Not at all worried about her pain |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 10:42 PM Response to Reply #329 |
334. Saving my compassion for those actually victimized by insurgents |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-30-06 06:00 AM Response to Reply #334 |
335. And this one woman is responsible for all deaths by insurgents? |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. 90% of the detainees are said to be innocent. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:44 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I'm not a sociopath. Sorry. I would not have a baby sitting in a house |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:50 AM Response to Reply #13 |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:56 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Leaders of the insurgency. Who rarely bomb US occupied buildings and spend |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
70. So do you propose she hire a private jet and leave? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:54 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. If her husband has access to millions of dollars of TNT - she's probably |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:08 PM Response to Reply #72 |
83. And you are sure he has access to all these millions of dollars? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:14 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. No. Not millions. She is living better than everyone else in her town. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:18 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. How do you know all this about her standard of living? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:24 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. The leaders families are always doing well. Resources are poured |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
116. "husband has access to millions of dollars" |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #116 |
124. I don't think the leaders of the insurgency are using potatoe battery |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:56 PM Response to Reply #116 |
137. applegrove has provided NO citations for any of the statements being |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:05 PM Response to Reply #137 |
149. I just meant read "Assasin's Gate for a take on what it is like for people |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:52 PM Response to Reply #149 |
281. You read a book. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #281 |
288. I think the bigger crime is going in and not having enough troops |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 03:21 AM Response to Reply #13 |
322. Right, I'd be shopping in Paris. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #322 |
325. The people not in the hierarchy - in the middle of a war zone - suffer |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
19. I'm not patriotic. Or socipathic. I am outraged that we weep for a woman |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:13 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Oh now her husband is a leader? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:17 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. If there was an american criminal suicide bombing 5 people a day - |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:19 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Isn't there a little law... (could be outdated) |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:23 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I think when civilians are being murdered every day by terrorism - |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. LOL laws = nicety? WOW are you in the wrong place. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Was she tortured? |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:31 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Yes she was. You cannot separate a mother from her breastfed infant |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:34 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Happens every day in the USA. Do you know how many incarcerated |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:38 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Actually laws are being enacted for breastfeeding. Google if you dare. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #49 |
57. That it is vitally important for both the mother and baby in the first few |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. You forgot the entry on torture and kidnap. Geneva Conventions are quaint |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:57 AM Response to Reply #61 |
74. What of the people who are starving in her neighbourhood because |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:00 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. How can they be starving, didn't you assure us the baby had PLENTY? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. I said her neighbours could be starving and struggling terribly for |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:52 PM Response to Reply #80 |
129. Ohh... She's living in riches and her neighbors are starving |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:05 PM Response to Reply #129 |
150. Read Assasin's gate. The neighbourhoods with the insurgencies |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #80 |
205. O I thought for a moment you were talking about George Bush! |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #205 |
213. I blame all the warmongers. All of them. Including the ones in Iraq. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #74 |
282. This is some sick reasoning, Applegrove. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #282 |
289. I have more sympathy for the civilians and the woman's children than |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:29 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Are you not aware the USA is at war in Iraq? That people get arrested |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:54 PM Response to Reply #39 |
197. Absolutely! |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:00 PM Response to Reply #197 |
201. I like Ghandi's quotes. Hear he was a little bit of a pervert. Though |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #201 |
206. You got a citation for THAT? You seem to have worse coherence, |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:18 PM Response to Reply #206 |
217. Yes. I'm responding to everyone here. Caused quite a stir. I think I |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #217 |
218. Have you got an author and book name? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #218 |
235. Naomi Klien - The Nation has done some good stuff. Al Franken. Everything |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:38 PM Response to Reply #235 |
237. These people wrote about Gandhi being a pederast? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #237 |
251. No - sorry you and I have changed topics. No - they are the people I |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #251 |
253. Why would it be on ME to dig this up and find out, when I'm not even |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:04 PM Response to Reply #253 |
257. You took great offence. I likely should have kept that "ew ghandi " |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #217 |
305. Gandhi. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 09:20 PM Response to Reply #305 |
311. Sorry - young women. I was out of sorts. He was an odd duck at that |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #201 |
211. ... Anything I say is simply an insult at this point. I am beyond |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #211 |
223. Sorry. You seem to think the husband is an innocent. He isn't. And the |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:29 PM Response to Reply #211 |
224. It's not just disgusting, it's GRATUITOUSLY inflammatory, not even related |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:41 PM Response to Reply #224 |
239. No I'm not trying to disrupt. At this point I am just tyring to answer all |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:43 PM Response to Reply #239 |
241. What is gratuitously inflammatory is your making unsupported comments |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:05 PM Response to Reply #241 |
258. Sorry. You quoted Ghandi a few times - I was reminded at my shock |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:35 PM Response to Reply #201 |
231. Huh? (eom) |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:46 PM Response to Reply #231 |
244. She started a thread on the sanctity of motherhood. I blew it away |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #244 |
270. Understand |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #270 |
276. I want the war to end. And all the people who use killing & war as a |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
194. Maybe they will stop... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:55 PM Response to Reply #194 |
198. The biggest attrocity the USA comitted was not enough troops to keep |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #198 |
229. I don't agree with that... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:08 PM Response to Reply #229 |
260. I worked for human rights organization for a bit and Saddam Hussein was |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #260 |
275. Who has killed more innocent Iraqi civilians... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:14 PM Response to Reply #275 |
292. Saddam killed 500,000. A few million if you count the Iran Iraq War. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:58 PM Response to Reply #198 |
285. How about starting the goddamned war in the first place? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #285 |
294. My colors aren't showing. I bought into Powell's speech like a lot of |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 01:07 AM Response to Reply #32 |
318. Be careful suggesting wives of war leaders |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 01:52 AM Response to Reply #318 |
321. ... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #318 |
326. Obviously not. My point is that if Laura wondered into insurgency |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
108. SUSPECTED |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:38 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. They know who the leaders are though. That is much easier to tell. |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #112 |
126. Do they have "I AM A LEADER" on their foreheads? |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:53 PM Response to Reply #126 |
130. The US military generally "knows" these things, like with the WMD. |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:59 PM Response to Reply #130 |
139. True - unlike untrustworthy memos re: airplane terrorists. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:42 PM Response to Reply #139 |
189. Throughout history - in most insurgencies. They know who the upper |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
192. So full of facts, so few annotated |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #192 |
199. Oh I know you are not. But the insurgents are not princes. Maybe some |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:15 PM Response to Reply #199 |
214. Yes, they should just lie down and surrender when a foreign country |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #214 |
255. The Iraq "after the bombs stop dropping" is Iraq when the insurgency |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:27 PM Response to Reply #199 |
222. It is sad |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #222 |
265. Yeah - I agree with with you. The neocons and the tribalism they |
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qanda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. You are, of course, making an assumption that her husband was guilty |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. I think they ususally are not so wrong when they are talking about |
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qanda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:03 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Yes, just as there was tons and tons of intel about WMD |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:12 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. They really are usually not wrong when they talk about who the leaders |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:14 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Why was it your leader and commander |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. I'm not a patriot. I am more concerned that the baby will be bombed |
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qanda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:17 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. I have no clue how you would know when they are right or wrong |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. I trust that when they said a leader. They new they had a leader. |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. So you think it is justified to kidnap family members of people? If they |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:33 AM Response to Reply #34 |
44. The child was not torured. The wife was not tortured. And if she didn't |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. So, are you saying, "yes, it's okay, in fact GOOD, to kidnap family |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:38 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. They arrested her. Like they have thousands of others. |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Is the baby alive? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #48 |
55. I think we all have painted a pretty distinct picture in our minds. We |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Where to? I think her worst problem is KIDNAPPING and TORTURE |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:59 AM Response to Reply #58 |
75. She was not tortured. Breasfeeding is not inflicting pain. Did you want |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:54 PM Response to Reply #75 |
132. I can link an article about afganistan women wanting their infants in jail |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:44 PM Response to Reply #132 |
190. Good. Perhaps the US army will learn from this. But the wife of an |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #48 |
60. What do you think her family would have done with the baby? Or US |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:48 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. I think there was a reason the soldier complained |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:55 AM Response to Reply #65 |
73. I'm sure the guy who complained was a "troublemaker" LOL who sympathized |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:02 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. He sounds like a good egg. More power too him. What are the policies |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:12 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. From the Uniform Code of Military Justice: |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #84 |
135. Please send that to president@whitehouse.org |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
77. No - if he wants nursing mothers to not be detained or for babies to |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:38 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Do you think the way the U.S. fights war, no civilians have to die? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #51 |
62. Of course civilians die. Especially when mommy is living with all |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:49 AM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Kidnap, torture and the welfare of her baby were the worst of her problems |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:06 PM Response to Reply #67 |
81. Well I think having a husband who is growing suicide bombers is |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:00 PM Response to Reply #81 |
141. GROWING SUICIDE BOMBERS??!!! |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:04 PM Response to Reply #141 |
148. Sometimes the stuff you hear on Rush and O'Reilly just comes out |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #148 |
157. Man if this is the mind of the neocon - no wonder were doomed. |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:13 PM Response to Reply #157 |
162. It's scary, depressing, sad, and makes me angry all at the same time. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:30 PM Response to Reply #157 |
227. I hate torture & hate & war. That is why I don't have sympathy for |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:29 PM Response to Reply #148 |
225. LIke what exactly? Cause I've never seen their shows or heard them. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #141 |
208. No. I meant that they take a teen, or a man who is poor and wants |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
105. innocent until proven guilty - MY HOW WE HAVE FORGOTTEN AMERICAN IDEALS |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:39 PM Response to Reply #105 |
115. She got detained. They are at war with her husband. All the other |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. She wasn't arrested because of anything SHE did. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:52 PM Response to Reply #117 |
128. I don't think they touched the wives. I'd pretty much rather see the |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:16 PM Response to Reply #128 |
168. How do you KNOW what was done! You wouldn't even KNOW about |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 09:24 PM Response to Reply #168 |
312. She wasn't tortured. She wasn't raped. Nobody but the civilians under |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 01:16 AM Response to Reply #312 |
319. Nobody but the civilians under the insurgents has been raped in Iraq?!?!?! |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #319 |
327. I didn't know kids were raped in abu Graib. I've stayed away from |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 05:21 PM Response to Reply #327 |
330. Yet you stated that "Nobody but the civilians under the insurgents has... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #330 |
332. I just don't think you can say that on the ground - US troops are trying |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #332 |
333. Either you're posting gibberish or my comprehension has made an exit. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
120. Unless you have a link showing their husbands were "suicide bombers," |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:54 PM Response to Reply #120 |
133. It isn't the guy on the street who is fighting. It is leaders of clans and |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
121. Suicide bombing all day long? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #121 |
134. Not the leaders. The fools who get lured into it do it once. The leaders |
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Danieljay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
252. self deleted..not worth my energy. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
261. So, are you excusing this tactic, Applegrove? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #261 |
295. I want the insurgency to end. Cause I'm not sure The White House |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 03:32 AM Response to Reply #295 |
323. You want the US military to crush the insurgents. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #323 |
328. War is bad. I was human rights abuses to stop. That includes bombings. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
22. Kick and recommend for greatest. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
45. For the first time in my DU membership, I'm using IGNORE |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:38 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Canuckistan - we've fought before. I have your friend Iverglass on |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:40 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. The issue is kidnapping innocent women and leaving defenseless infants |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:40 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. According to applegrove, she was "arrested" and not "kidnapped". |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:42 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Oh I forgot the law=nicety. *goosestep* |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. If the U.S. does it = "arrest" regardless if there are actual charges. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:08 PM Response to Reply #59 |
82. In a time of war people can be detained without charges for a bit. |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:13 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. The Uniform Code of Military Justice says otherwise |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:15 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. I think being married to someone who terrorizes and murders every day |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:18 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. I do not. Do you think here in the U.S., being married to a murderer |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:20 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. said murderer was killing 5 civilians and 1 troop a day - yes I think |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:22 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. Where are your citations for this "accepted military policy"? Or are |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:26 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. The people who started the War in Iraq are living pretty high of the |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. I'm assuming you're talking about Bush and Cheney? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:56 PM Response to Reply #101 |
136. Big oil, military companies, all the stock traders on wall street who |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:59 PM Response to Reply #136 |
140. Whew! I ALMOST thought you were implying someone OTHER than the US |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:34 PM Response to Reply #140 |
182. I hold Rumsfield in as much contempt as the leaders of insurgencies. |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:40 PM Response to Reply #182 |
187. FU "And there wives should expect detention or derision." |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:32 PM Response to Reply #187 |
228. The wives of all people who start wars. Yes! Pickles too! If she went |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:16 PM Response to Reply #182 |
216. For God's sake, Laura Bush, Lynne Cheney, and whoever is married to... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #216 |
296. I think if bush or Laura showed up in "Insurgentown Iraq" I do think |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 05:03 PM Response to Reply #296 |
303. Speak for yourself; please don't use 'WE'. And please read another book. |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #100 |
123. Who are you saying STARTED the War in Iraq????!!! |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 09:25 PM Response to Reply #123 |
313. Bush & Cheney & Rummy & neocons. |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:25 PM Response to Reply #93 |
99. What is the threshold for number of people being killed per day before |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. If he is a leader. People are dying may days a week. By suicide bomb or |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:42 PM Response to Reply #82 |
118. "In a time of war people can be detained without charges for a bit." Hey, |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:48 AM Response to Reply #54 |
66. Do ya think the men you hang around her husband are being kidnapped? |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:54 AM Response to Reply #66 |
71. I reject that we have a right to be in Iraq in the first place, much less |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:17 PM Response to Reply #71 |
88. No - I am not in full support of the invasion. I wanted the UN to go it. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:48 AM Response to Reply #53 |
64. Did the US army kick drop the baby? The woman was arrested. |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. What resources? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:18 PM Response to Reply #68 |
92. I don't know what that quote is from don't like it. Nobody let's babies |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #92 |
125. Use the search function |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:21 PM Response to Reply #64 |
94. Yes it does happen |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:22 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. I think you go too far. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #95 |
110. We are not abiding by The Geneva Convention anymore |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #64 |
151. Why do you keep saying |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:28 PM Response to Reply #151 |
179. Have you read any about what it is like on the ground. Those neigh |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-29-06 01:22 AM Response to Reply #64 |
320. QUIT SAYING LEADER |
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qanda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:02 PM Response to Reply #50 |
146. I certainly don't understand where you're coming from |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #146 |
180. One person did. Realized I am very antiwar and am angry at all the |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 01:38 PM Response to Reply #180 |
186. Give me a break. Antiwar my ass. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #186 |
283. I'm angry that the war continues. I'm angry that the insurgents are the |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
79. Detainees = hostages held by "our" side. |
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Mutley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
226. This entire thread of 220+ posts is being used to attack one user. |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:35 PM Response to Reply #226 |
232. Why do they get to have the last word and have their statement |
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Mutley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:38 PM Response to Reply #232 |
236. It looks like the statement has been challenged quite a bit. |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:40 PM Response to Reply #236 |
238. It makes me angry when people on the board that is my ideological "home" |
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Mutley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #238 |
245. It just seems unfair to have 10 or more people piling onto one person. |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:49 PM Response to Reply #245 |
247. Well if you have supportive arguments for applegrove's position, |
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Mutley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #247 |
249. Excuse me. I have not given an opinion one way or the other |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:00 PM Response to Reply #249 |
254. There is no "fair", if people on this board say something wrong and |
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Mutley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:07 PM Response to Reply #254 |
259. I've never seen one this bad before |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #259 |
263. I don't think the poster in question is any the worse for wear, if they |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #263 |
278. I'm not worse for wear. I said something in knee jerk - and then |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 03:52 PM Response to Reply #238 |
280. I didn't have the time to respond with care to each and every one of you. |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #280 |
286. If you can't respond "with care" or with FACTS, why respond? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:38 PM Response to Reply #286 |
299. Couldn't respond with care because I was trying to get to 10 people |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:41 PM Response to Reply #299 |
301. If U.S. troops leave Iraq I suspect that might end it. |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 04:58 PM Response to Reply #301 |
302. Don't ya get it? Rummy said 10 years at the start. They are not trying |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-28-06 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
308. It is so sad |
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314. They're pertectin' us from dangerous "terrorists". |
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