Bush's State of the Union address sounds like it's going to be awesome

[Thtwudbeme]

to me!

I personally cannot freaking wait until he gets on National TV to tell the peeeeple how hunky dory the economy is! How they are going to be wayyy better off when they have to pay more for healthcare--

Best part? How GREAT things are going in Iraq with Bob Woodruff laying in a hospital bed--

I don't think demonstrators should try to drown this powerful message out: "Your so called pResident is so delusional he doesn't even recognize that many of you cannot keep your homes, afford to fix your vehicles, or go to the Dr."

[salin]

1. on healthcare = he thinks YOU are the reason for escalating health

care costs - he thinks you use health care TOO much.

[Thtwudbeme]

3. Exactly!

See...it's all those America-hating jerks that go to the Dr. and stuff.

[salin]

9. he also thinks the tax cuts for the rich (remember yours was only $300)

should stay in place even though it means that your property taxes, state taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes etc. have gone up to help local and state govts pay for things that the feds used to do; only taxes that need to be stopped are those for the really rich - you know - the ones who really are experiencing a 'better economy'.

[Thtwudbeme]

12. I think I spent that three hundred already too.....

I am so ashamed...if I had put it into a savings account, I would now have $300.72.

[salin]

14. See it is YOUR fault that America has such a low rate of saving,

not a fault or symptom of the weak economy; Oh and if you had saved it - it would have been your fault that the economy was slowing down because you were choosing NOT to consume. It is ALWAYS your fault.

[hlthe2b]

17. just think, of the companies you could have invested in....

Ford, GM, United, American Airlines, and all the others in the tank, right now. Your $300 would certainly be gone, but, hey, you've helped make some CEO very secure in HIS retirement package. :mad:

[oldtime dfl_er]

20. and you could buy the scalpel

to do your own gall bladder surgery. You are so un American!

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/1097640

[Kansas Wyatt]

19. When he did that it was impossible to get sheeple to understand that.

What makes it worse, is that those other taxes will remain the same and federal taxes will have to go back up, and the lower and middle classes will be bearing more of a burden when it does, so they will end up paying a hell of a lot more and more than they can possibly afford.

Meanwhile the wealthy elite will cry foul if anyone thinks about raising their taxes back up to what it used to be, and everyone else gets to pay more for the have more's tax cuts.

[kurth]

5. Yeah, people LOVE to be sick and disabled!!!

It's always great fun to go see a dentist or doctor or oncologist...

[Thtwudbeme]

10. Until recently, I didn't realize that I had been missing out on the Cancer

party---

Your comments make me long to at least have a toothache so I can join in the fun! Gosh, I wish it were more expensive to go to the Dr. too!

[CatholicEdHead]

8. We are at fault for getting sick and driving profits down

that is disgusting logic. There is no way you cannot get sick at some time in our lives.

[salin]

15. The "logic" is that we see doctors TOO much because it is so "CHEAP"

to do so (ergo due to employer paid health insurance) - and that if we had to pay more *MUCH MORE* out of pocket, than we would go to the doctors less and spend less... and that factor somehow (they never make explicit this last LEAP in logic) would lead to more "efficiency" in health care - and thus lower (for WHO????) costs. Ya - it is very WARPED.

Business cronies don't want to pay health care anymore and so they are wrapping up really warped freemarket sales pitches to sell this stinker to the public - AND will attempt to change tax codes to ENCOURAGE employers to stop carrying health ins for employees - thus MORE folks will be stuck with MORE out of pocket expenses with NO increase in income to cover the difference.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

2. pass the doobie, man. It smells like great shit!

[rox63]

4. From the WTF file...

The Chimp-in-Chief thinks Americans have too much health insurance. If you think I'm kidding, read this:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/007555.php

I'm sure my uninsured friends and family members will find this amusing. NOT. :puke:

[Thtwudbeme]

7. That is precisely what I am looking forward to him saying.

I can't fucking wait. The baby boomers are going to go to bed making him the most despised pResident in the memorable history of the US.

[renie408]

11. Do we really think they will be stupid enough to let him even say

the words "over insured"?

Could ANY politician BE that stupid?

And even more interesting will be if they do say it, watching them try to sell that to Americans.

[salin]

24. he won't use those words

but the meaning will be there.

Also - there will be talk of "inefficiencies in the system because of middlemen" (aka employers) making decisions for individuals and that individuals would make better decisions (that = huge HR departments working to contain costs - who have a lot of experience with health ins plans - make LESS EFFICIENT choices than would uninformed individuals confronted with a vast array of options... (sorta like srs facing Medicare Plan D).

[SPKrazy]

32. There were some interesting posts on the TPM healthcare blog

link at the link above in the story.

One was from someone who agreed that we are "over insured", his example was a senior citizen whose insurance was billed $4000 for an ambulance trip when he had the flu.

Now assuming it was simple flu without complications, this is ridiculous, and the docs, ER, ambulance, and patient were all accomplices in the fraud of the insurance.

Now this doesn't mean that all people are underinsured, but that insurance that people who have insurance have (that sounds strange) may be over covering costs for things that it shouldn't.

A responder said that a $100 visit from a nurse would have been a better use of healthcare dollars than the $4000 ambulance trip.

There is a lot to think about with healthcare policy and I sure don't think Bush or his policy makers are the ones to mess with health care.

We need Democrats in there developing national health insurance that is intelligently designed so as not to over cover (We spend twice as much as the highest spending nation other than us on healthcare, yet we are 37th in healthcare quality) or underproduce.

Healthcare savings accounts are just a way to eliminate the costs for business and shift the cost for insurance to employees in my opinion.

[gizmo1979]

6. Yes there isn't much Rosey news

is there?Oh course if you're his base employee health care is going down you're making a fortune off of oil and gas.Rights of those leftys are leaving faster than you expected. It's a great time to be rich in America.For the rest of us life sucks.

[Broadslidin]

13. Waiting For Further Orders = T.V.

:hide:

[hlthe2b]

16. thank God I don't own one of those mega expensive$$$

HD flat screen mega-tvs. While I would likely have thrown something at it before now, I'd surely do so Tuesday night. No, I'm safer listening on radio (probably AAR with "real" commentary, watching a tiny screen tv with the sound off, and participating in the real time blogger commntary here on DU.

[salin]

18. I stopped listening after his Jan 02 address

far too stressful. I will read about it after the fact.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

21. Do ya think he'll show up wearing a crown?

:shrug:

[salin]

25. No, but I do expect that some viewers will, finally, for the first time

realize that the emperor has no clothes.

[Thtwudbeme]

26. Yep, that's what I think too

the upper end boomers going to start waking up tonight.

[salin]

27. Its a process that has been going on for years.

Think of a big cloth - with a little bit of fraying on all edges. That was the massive support for bushco in October 2001. Since then the fabric just barely inside the fringe - gets knocked of kilter a little bit and lets the cognitive dissonance run its course rather than just pushing it away... and suddenly they are part of the fraying while the previous frays have falled off the tapestry altogether. Then over time the pieces of the fabric nearest the fray starts getting bothered ... and begins to be the new frayed edge... and so on and so on.

The tapestry has now shrunk tremendously due to the fraying (questions of credibility) at the edges - it is now just over a third of the original side.

This speech will see the current frays unravel off the tapestry, and more erosion to the tapestry as a new portion of the cloth - on all the edges - starts getting bothered by that pesky cognitive dissonance and becomes a part of the new frayed edge.

[LibDemAlways]

22. It doesn't matter to me what the shithead says.

I wouldn't watch his lying ass under any circumstances.

[kahleefornia]

23. maybe he'll talk about Exxon's record profits

and the recent Hamas election. Democracy and capitalism - his two favorite things, and look how perfectly they're working for everyone.

[saltpoint]

28. If Bush could speak English, his addresses might be listenable.

Even when he's handed a text, he mangles it. The world's finest poets could not put listenable words into that man's mouth.

I'm going to the movies Tuesday night instead of listening to that little puke lie to the entire globe.

[MODemocrat]

29. Will he tell us how many workers at Ford Motors are losing their jobs?

Of course not, he'll just paint the rosiest picture for all of us. He's such a loser, but the worst part of that is, we are going to be losers because of him. :freak: :thumbsdown:

[deadparrot]

30. Things are so great, there's TOO MUCH health insurance!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2412512

[ihelpu2see]

31. The word I herd on CNN this evening is "Thematic" ??? so

no big costly 6 month tour trying to fix Social Security this year... I mean by "fixing" actually giving a bunch of money to Wall St. buddies but whose counting the Billions now. I mean I just watched the re-broadcast of Frist trying to explain our huge deficit it was WAR on Terror, Katrina, Terror and those Democrats don't have a plan they cant help they want to raise your taxes!!!

[lumpy]

33. Speech will be awesome and

FABULOUS ! Not