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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 12:31 AM
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Bush's base fading?
Sixty-five percent disapprove of Bush's handling of the situation in Iraq and 29 percent approve.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060318/ts_alt_afp/uspoliticscongress_060318232332
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 12:32 AM
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1. Bush's *true* base is less than 0.1% of the population.
"The 'haves' and the 'have mores'"
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 12:49 AM
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2. There will always be, as Peter Weber calls it, a "fascist third". [nt]
Edited on Sun Mar-19-06 12:49 AM by Nutmegger
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:24 AM
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4. Perhaps Democrats should devise a _wedge_ to split up this...
fascist third of the electorate.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 04:27 AM
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7. The Democrats can't
even zip up their own flies. All they do is vote for the "Patriot" Act, dilly-dally, dither and bicker among themselves. Feingold is the only one worth a damn.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:10 PM
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8. I don't disagree with you, but that shouldn't stop us from...
offering advice (even if it's unheeded).

What I'm thinking is that wedge politics has worked so well for Republicans, then why can't Democrats do the same thing? Why can't the Democrats devise methods for splitting up the Republicans' hard 30% base?

Certainly, today's Democratic leaders seem to have a tin ear for new ideas. Perhaps newly elected Democrats in the next session of Congress will begin to make inroads with new ideas. We definitely need some new thinking and new approaches.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 04:19 PM
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10. What REALLY worked well
for the Republicans was rigging the votes in Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004. Now that's a first-class "wedge". It also really "worked well" for them that they had the Supreme Court intervene in a disputed Presidential Election where the vote was split 50/50, and there were SERIOUS allegations of voter disenfranchment and vote/machine tampering/miscounting that were blatently & conveniently ignored in the rush to coronation. It's not that the Democrats are too high-minded, honest, or "taking the high road" --- they are just too incompetent to even understand the severity or get into the hardball game that Rove and others have brought us. I hope there will be lots of Democrats in the new Congress after the all-important 2006 elections but if the ballot boxes/counting are being rigged (Diebold, etal.) that may not happen. Bush was NEVER honestly elected as far as I am concerned.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 12:47 AM
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12. You're definitely right...
but the elections wouldn't have been so close if the Democratic leadership took the fight to Republicans in those elections.
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BigYawn Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 01:30 AM
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13. If Bush stole the elections, where are the leaks?
I just can not believe a massive conspiracy of
statewide vote rigging can be kept quiet. There
would be county election officials, programmers,
technicians, Diebold employees etc all would have
to be involved in such a vote stealing operation.

YET NOT A SINGLE LEAK OR WHISTLE BLOWING ANYWHERE
IN 5+ YEARS!!!!!!!

Sorry I don't believe in tooth fairy and Santa Clause either, anymore.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:38 AM
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6. You mean the third that is so uncomfortable with any changes in their
lives that they will cling desperately to any thief who promises to insulate them from them?

Yes, the timidly conservative will always be with us. Our job is to use them as necessary brakes on too rapid, radical change while keeping them away from things that can hurt us all, like Imperial power.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 01:02 AM
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3. Unfortunately, the remaining elements...
...of his base, Diebold, ES&S, Triad, Sequoia and of few others, still represent a significant problem for us.
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ChristianLibrul Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:04 AM
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5. It's hard out here for a chimp...
...when the public is well-informed.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:13 PM
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9. HIs base were handing out voter guides at church today
The headline on the guide said "Pro-life" but a careful reading revealed that it was STRICTLY abortion-rights based. Nothing on pre-emptive war, nothing on the death penalty. So his base is still intact - the people who would vote for Satan as long as he was anti-choice.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 04:25 PM
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11. It is a disgrace that still so many support him
And that things had to get this bad to get the numbers to drop.
Doesn't say much about the character of the American people :(
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