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monarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 05:53 AM
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Lieberman's disastrous campaign
I'm actually starting to feel sorry for Joe. Really!! As a strong Lamont supporter, I have to tell you that Joe Lieberman is someone I have admired for many years and I hate to have his career end this way. Much as I want Lamont to win, this thing is getting ugly. If Joe has any hope of salvaging any self-respect, he simply has to jettison his entire campaign staff and people like Eskew. From beginning to end of this campaign, I cannot think of a single thing that Joe's crowd has done right. And what they have done wrong, wow!
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 06:09 AM
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1. I agree
at one time Lieberman was a good Democrat. But he got a good whiff of Bush's ass and he really liked it.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 06:32 AM
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2. They use Joe as an example of how the lefties online
and the politicians in DC are 'so far left out of the mainstream' and so Joe keeps going more moderate/conservative.

The fact is, it's our job to remind people that the politicians are not left-(socialists, communists, etc) but that they have actually gone more neoconservative in their efforts to not lose their jobs or their money (corporate lobbyists).

The vote on this sham Iraq thing was proof of that statement being an utter lie. Only 6 people in Congress represented the true will of the people and not the will of corporate lobbyists and their own re-election agenda.

http://www.progressiveu.org/194600-sleezy-republican-ploy-hurting-the-troops-more-than-murtha-and-kerry-wasting-tax-your-dollars
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 06:37 AM
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3. imho
Joe has gone from a respected dem to an embarrassment. He is lethal in his position though because his support of republican agendas weakens any chance we have to take a stand. We need every man at the oars.
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 06:44 AM
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4. Dear Joe needs to learn a thing or two from his bud, Tom Daschle
Busted down from Minority Leader to private citizen in one fell swoop. Joe too is going to go the way of the Dodo with his burning of the political candle at both ends. That is a lot of mixed metaphor there folks.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:36 AM
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6. Most Jews are democrats.
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:55 AM
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11. You are right but what about
Bill Kristol, Irving Kristol, Richard Perle, Doug Feith(I think), Wolfowitz, Henry Kissinger
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 05:13 PM
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12. That's not very many out of the thousands/millions jews.
Frankly, I believe the top % of jews who voted Republican was around 6%. I don't have the exact stat, but I believe that's what I heard.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 05:18 PM
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13. They are called Bebe's Boys - Netanyahu developed a US network of allies
Edited on Sat Jun-17-06 05:19 PM by blm
to secure a hard right voting block on Mideast policy issues. This was very carefully developed strategy in the 90s.
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DODI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:50 AM
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7. Someone said he has glided thru CT so easily in the past
that he really has not experienced campaign staff. They have not had to run one since 1988. There is never a repuke challenger in the CT senate races -- so why have a seasoned, smart campaign staff.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:32 AM
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8. Once the Joementum starts rolling downhill, it's really hard to stop.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:39 AM
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9. they've made every stupid mistake in the book
Edited on Sat Jun-17-06 08:42 AM by darboy
1. Refusing to say they'll support the dem nominee
2. Refusing to rule out an Indy run
3. Attack ads against an unknown opponent (ignorance is their best friend).
4. Calling Lamont a Republican when Lieberman is famous for having some Republican positions.
5. In the next breath saying Lamont is backed by left-wing wackos.
6. Running ads that point out that Lieberman is completely out of step with CT on the war. "I know a lot of you disagree with my position on the war."
7. Running ad with the baseless accusation that Lamont is a puppet of Lowell Weicker.
8. Running ridiculous ad saying Lamont is pro asbestos.
9. Going on a hartford radio show (Colin McEnroe) and acting like a whiny bitch.
10. Infrequently visiting the state and having few publicized public meetings.
11. Being rude to a constitutent who complains about his voting record.
12. Running for both Senate and VP in 2000, basically showing a lack of confidence in his and Gore's chances and risking handing the seat to a republican if he would have won.
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monarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 09:45 AM
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10. Absolutely!
The whole campaign is a textbook example of doing everything wrong. I can't believe that a sitting senator has people like Sean Smith and Marion Steinfels speaking for him. Every time one of them says something, it makes you cringe. It's definitely time to put a grownup in charge
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 05:38 PM
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14. Good!
I'm a firm believer in Darwin's Law of Politics. May the most ethical survive.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 05:59 PM
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16. good post!
Edited on Sat Jun-17-06 05:59 PM by jonnyblitz
I appreciate your compiled list. :thumbsup:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 07:48 PM
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17. What -- You didn't like the bear cartoon ad?
:rofl:
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:36 PM
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19. Great list
One self-inflicted woe after another. If Lieberman had smiled and shut up, recognizing a primary challenge as unlikely to succeed, he'd be at least 5 points better off right now, and probably double that.
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thatsrightimirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 05:48 PM
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15. No wonder
Every time he campaigns his numbers go down
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 08:22 PM
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18. And joe is wondering
if we're on a jihad or a crusade..

"I know I'm taking a position that is not popular within the party," Lieberman said, "but that is a challenge for the party -- whether it will accept diversity of opinion or is on a kind of crusade or jihad of its own to have everybody toe the line. No successful political party has ever done that."


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1449928
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-17-06 10:22 PM
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20. I'm not.
Connecticut can do far better, and deserves far better, than him.

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