Poor Little Swiftboater Amanda Doss

[Bob Geiger]

You're going to be hearing a lot in the coming days and weeks about the ramped-up attacks on Congressman John Murtha (D-PA) for his vocal opposition to the Bush administration's actions with the Iraq war.

Much of it will take the form of calling him a traitor for rightfully calling his own beloved Marine Corps -- Murtha is a former Marine -- on atrocities committed by some of our troops in Iraq. Many will use their silly "cut and run" label in a ridiculous attempt to make a highly-decorated Veteran, with 37 years of military service, seem like one of the Chickenhawks who dominate the Republican party. Some will question the medals that the U.S. military leadership awarded Murtha and -- who knows? -- I'm guessing at this very moment some photoshopping, GOP scumbag is prepping a picture of Murtha burning an American flag while attending a Gay Pride rally.

Now meet Amanda Doss. She's one of those people and is about to put up a web site called Murthalied.com which, based on her known alliances with the kings of the bottom feeders, the Swift Boat Liars, will attempt to smear a fine man like John Murtha -- and other Veterans, like me, as well -- with new and improved levels of low-rent attacks.

But we're on to her already and she's rushed her web site into production quickly to spotlight the "…negative, hateful, or inappropriate email" she is allegedly receiving from readers of progressive blogs.

"Shortly after I purchased the domain name MurthaLied.com, my personal information (including where I live, my picture, my client list, and my email address) was posted on several 'Liberal' blogs," whines Doss. "Keep in mind, this information was posted BEFORE I had even created a website for MurthaLied.com."

She goes on to share the content (and originating e-mail addresses) of "… some of hateful and even threatening emails I have recently received due to these blogs, before this website was even created." Here's some samples:

"Please continue to try though, we will bury your threats, expose your lies, and most of all we will make it personal about you too. It is real easy in this day and age to find out people's spending habits, their comings and goings, and all the little things such as ex-boyfriends, ex-friends, and ex-colleagues in between. We will dig dirt up on you, it has already started. As they say in wingnut land... 'Bring 'em on..'"

Here's another:

"Interesting that a political whore would pick a name like 'streetcorner'. I've wonder who you'll be doing on the corner. (ick!)."

And another:

"I've got a great idea. Why don't YOU go to Iraq? You seem to take joy in the killing of innocent 'brown people', so why are you here in this country making websites eh? Too much of a sissy to stand up for what you allegedly believe in? Or too much of a total windbag pussy to put your money where your lying mouth is? Come on Amanda!"

One more:

"Swiftboating moron, you will be remembered as the shit on Murtha's boot heel."

OK, one more (from a licensed social worker):

"You are really mentally ill, seek treatment now."

You can go read the rest yourself, but here's my message to Amanda: You better toughen up, my little poisonous cupcake.

This is nothing. I get more nasty hate mail than that every week. My mother "should have aborted you when she had the chance," said one recent correspondent. One guy said I should "… move away or at least, go to hell" and another said I should "burn in hell forever." They even threaten me and my family on a regular basis.

And this is just for expressing my opinion and writing articles about the United States Senate based on researched fact.

Let's be honest, Amanda: I don’t know who's paying you for the lies and filth you’re about to heap on a man who has served our country honorably both in combat and in Congress but, if you're going to be the Internet's version of trailer trash, you need to accept the consequences.

One of the e-mails you cry about was correct in stating that John Murtha will not tolerate this garbage in the same way the 2004 Kerry campaign did -- and I can tell you right now that I, and many of the "liberal blogs" you whimper about, will not let you get away with it.

When you open up a can of worms, you should not be surprised when something slithers out. In this case, that something is you.

You can reach Bob Geiger at [e-mail] and read more from him at Democrats.com.

[Stockholm]

1. Important read

Spreading far and wide.

K&R Bob!

[MADem]

2. What have we learned about this creepy gal?

There is a child psychologist by the same name (different middle name, though) in TX, but that person is NOT this person. It would be interesting to learn a bit more about her. How anyone could sink that low and do that craven, smearing crap is beyond me...

[patrice]

3. It's the Internet! - for Christ's sake Amanda - one of the last few

strongholds of Freedom, Amanda. If you can't take it don't come here. Stop what you're doing. Do something else. Don't make who you are and what you do an Issue for Others.

Otherwise, you're asking to get flamed. As I said, it's the Internet.

[MADem]

8. Has she come here? I don't think she would dare, frankly NT

[patrice]

18. I wouldn't know.

I was just commenting about her complaint that people were talking about her and she called it a threat. If she doesn't like the sort of things people were writing, then she shouldn't attack John Murtha and she should stay away from the Inernet, because that is the nature of the "beast".

Apparently she can dish it out, but she can't take it. She wouldn't be happy here at the DU. It's too egalitarian for her.

[geardaddy]

33. Indeed

She needs be taken to the proverbial cleaners without making ad hominem attacks.

[Warpy]

4. Yow! Good job, Bob

You're absolutely right about Daddy's Sweet Little Girl turned political smear tool needing to butch up. Even males who post on protected and moderated boards need to develop a very thick skin.

Of course the hate filled garbage we get from the right is far worse, more personal, more sexual.

Poor Amanda will be too easy a target for some, of course, because she's a woman. However, I would wish anyone who has an irresistible urge to tell her off to do so attacking her filthy lies and disgusting politics, not her ancestry, anatomy or suspected proclivities.

We're better than that. That's why we're not part of THEM.

[freefall]

25. Right on, Warpy!!

Well said and I pray that you are right and we are better than that.

:thumbsup: :hi:

Peace,

freefall

[Liberal Veteran]

5. What a tool.

Did she honestly believe she is allowed to go out and smear a veteran with impunity, yet be immune from criticism herself?


What a fucking whining con trash idiot.

[AuntiBush]

6. I Think Anyone that calls John Murtha a Traitor is One Themselves.

To talk that way to a what, 35 year Marine veteran. It's pretty bad when all they have are the same old song and dance, swift boat tactics left to use.

Oh, it's so Rove and old. American's aren't that stupid. Same old song and dance.

[gratuitous]

7. Poor Amanda

She can dish it out, but she can't take it. Better grow a thicker skin, darling, because we are onto the vile tactics of the right wing, and we're prepared to return fire.

[brentspeak]

9. Is this loser a GOP operative or just your average Freeper-type?

[Cerridwen]

10. A little googling and...

Some info re: "Ms. Doss"

At the "Operation Street Corner" site is a link at the bottom to "Amanda's Pages" web design; it's a yahoo email address.

A little google of "Amanda's Pages" leads to a "web design" site (ugly!!!) for "Computer Link" web design (computer-link.net) which, according to their site "partners with Amanda's Pages to provide our customers the best web design available" and goes on to say "To learn more about web site design and representing your business on the internet, call Amanda at XXX.XXX.XXXX" (I won't post that to this forum, you can look yourself). It lists an address and phone numbers in Texarkana, TX. It appears it hasn't been updated since about 2005. Guess she/they are too busy "swiftboating" whomever. Or perhaps she's being paid more now than she was able to earn from her ugly, ugly web design (if her own site is any indication).

computer-link.net was founded by two others though their site looks identical to the operation street corner site. Hmmmm....

[Cerridwen]

13. "Chieftan" posts for "Amanda Doss" at freerepub....

surprise /sarcasm

Dear Everyone,

We were able just today to get the itinerary for Jane Fonda's book signing tour. We are encouraging all Vietnam Veterans and their family, as well as all concerned Americans, to protest her signings.

This is Operation Street Corner, now used for another traitor, Jane Fonda. Watch the Operation Street Corner website for pictures and information about our protests (http://operationstreetcorner.com/). There is nothing posted yet, as we are getting the word out first to our email listservers.

Thank you so much for your time and help! I will be sending out additional information about Jane soon.

See Hanoi Jane's schedule below to find the time and location nearest you. She will be in Atlanta, GA tomorrow (April 12) and the next day.

- Amanda Doss

link: if you must go look http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-news/1387841/posts

update: format

[MH1]

20. Computer Link - family connection?

Computer Link was founded in 1991 by partners Ashley Watson and Wanda Prewett. Each partner brought a unique aspect to the business. Ashley had specialized in hardware and Novell networks since 1979, while Wanda had specialized in software and Unix networks since 1982.

Prewett = Amanda's maiden name.

[Cerridwen]

22. Looks like...

Though, the more I looked around, it appears this amanda person is not much more than a stooge...I keep reading she "ran" the campaign, but then in another blog it mentions some guy that headed up "operation street corner."

His new plans are to go after Murtha.

*sigh*

[OhioBlue]

34. I thought the same thing about her web design

she can't be making a living - it looks horrid. It looks like someone just learned how to change the text and background colors and think they are oh so smart.... She might need to update her skills from the 1996 HTML for beginners class.

[Norrin Radd]

43. If you look at her source, you'll see that she is using FrontPage 4.0

which was from 2000, I think. :rofl:

[Redstone]

46. People PAY her to design web pages like that?

It's impossible to underestimate the stupidity of some people...

Redstone

[tabasco]

11. Boohoohoo poor wittle baby !!

She thinks she can lie about the reputation of an honorable man and say outrageous things and everybody just has to kiss her ass??

[brentspeak]

12. I checked out her "Murthalied" website

So far, she has nothing up about John Murtha at all. Instead, she's pretending to be an unjustly attacked victim, and reprints several emails which blast her as proof of the kinds of things "Democrats" (none of them identify themselves as Democrats) say. Pathetic.

[Cerridwen]

15. They have a call out for info at another site

http://smalltownveteran.typepad.com/

First item of business is to get our website up and running in a credible way. Amanda Prewett Doss of Texarkana, TX, who handled the '04 campaign, has been engaged to be our website manager, and she has already purchased our domain name http://www.murthalied.com/ What we need to do now it to develop the download folder from which our volunteers will obtain the flyers that they will post on their display boards. PLEASE keep your eyes open for ANYTHING that could be used (to defeat) Murtha. For the time being, send what you find to me; I have asked a very literate friend to stand by to extract the most salient quotes for posting in large font on our display boards.

Also, much more information and names at the site linked above.

[durrrty libby]

14. The dems need to vigorously slam any rovarian -like attacks

We must fight fire with furious blowtorches.

The rupug army of roaches must not be tolerated.
We need to get ahead of them and quash them. It is the only way
to end their tyranny.

[Oddly Stevenson]

17. Interesting correction

At the top of the entry regarding Larry Bailey and the murthalied.com campaign at the smalltownveteran.com website:

"Larry Bailey has a reputation. It's a reputation for getting things done, even if he has to do them himself. Working with other Veterans and activists during the last election cycle he had a very noticeable impact on those elections. How did he do it? He went to the people. He went to the streets. He's now doing the same thing in Congressman Murtha's home district. Although he is not a part of the Irey campaign, he maintains regular contact with them in order to ensure that he makes the most efficient use of the time and resources available."

And then, the "correction":


"CORRECTION: I have just been informed that Mr Bradley and Larry Bailey have nothing to do with the Irey Campaign. I do apologize for the mistake."


Yeah. Sure.

[ComerPerro]

16. She tarnishes a decorated veteran and calls 65% of America traitors

and wonders why people are so mean to her?

[wryter2000]

19. Well done!

:applause:

[sutz12]

21. We could use a Photshop of that pic...

Reading:

Those who slander heroes are traitors.

[alfredo]

23. So she is supporting an administration of draft dodgers

by attacking veterans and war heroes. Does she ever wonder about that?

[CTyankee]

24. Is there any known reason WHY she is doing this?

Is she getting paid? If so, by whom? Is she carrying a grudge from something?

Rational people don't usually engage in this kind of campaign without a compelling reason and for the life of me I can't figure out hers.

Maybe I didn't read all the threads too closely.

Somebody, fill me in!

[Javaman]

26. insanity. nt

[leveymg]

27. She got her face on FauxNews last week.

Some people don't need any other reason. :eyes:

[The Wizard]

29. Could be

Richard Mellon Scaife or some other such Nazi operative with the cash to undermine democracy. Remember the Arkansas Project to overthrow the last duly elected President was a Scaife financed operation. The RNC pays for much of this through shadow businesses.
Our pResident is a nut.
Thank Zeus I'm a Democrat.

[NavyDavy]

44. shes a swiftboater need I say more

[Buzz Clik]

28. I never cease to be amazed at their whining.

They engage in personal attacks as a matter of course in their everyday dealings. But, the first time someone comes after them, they start sobbing.

Keep it coming. She deserves everything that comes her way.

[Julius Civitatus]

30. It doesn't matter: THE MSM WILL GIVE HER A VOICE without CHALLENGE

Sorry for being cynical, but we've been down this Rovian path before. We see an artificial group, falsely considered "grassroots," form to do all the nasty dirty work for the White House.

We say "people won't believe their crap. "People won't stand for such an outrageous manipulation of the truth." We naively trust that our gatekeepers in the media "will expose their blatant connections to the White House and the GOP.'

Guess what?

It never happens that way.

The media will eat it up, give them an ample voice, allow their slandering commercials without objection, invite them to talk shows without challenge.
Within weeks, the average "Moron-Murkan" eats it all up, raw. By the time the media even allows any serious debate on these libel-artists, Murtha will be known as a "gay-loving AlQaeda-sympathizer with a secret plan to destroy Murka."

I've said a thousand times since 1999: THE CORPORATE MEDIA IS THE PROBLEM HERE! We better flood the media about this smear, massively. They already have the upper hand, and vast funding from the GOP. It's already uphill for us.

[JohnnyRingo]

31. It's amazing the lengths some will go when their favorite war

is threatened.

Since Ms. Doss isn't a military contractor she must have another motive for perpetuating this war.

Perhaps she's funded by those who stand to lose profits with war's end
Maybe she just cares about the plight of the average Iraqi...
Or more likely she doesn't
Maybe she wants to continue killing Iraqis because they look like the 9/11 hi-jackers.

Whatever her reasons for attempting to silence Murta, patriotism isn't one of them.

[NastyDiaper]

32. Don't underestimate Amanda Doss's ability..

..to power an Armada of these things with ther hot air.

[calimary]

35. Cry us a river, Amanda. You'd think nothing of those tactics if they

were turned on us "lefties." In fact, I'm sure you said NOTHING to oppose that same shit already having been done to Michael Moore. Indeed, his address, phone number, the names of his wife and child, and photos of their house, were posted online in shit-head sites, and I'm sure you NEVER said peep about that.

Turnabout IS fair play. What's good for the goose... and all that stuff.

Furthermore, it reminds me of something former republi-CON Senator Alan Simpson said about this kind of stuff. He said (paraphrasing) "when you turn on the automatic fanny-kicking machine, you better beware. Because it can't be stopped. And once you turn it on, you can't keep it aimed away from you anymore." Sounds like that machinery has turned around and is headed directly for her.

[FighttheFuture]

36. Wonder what she is being paid to be a patsy?

[tanyev]

37. Wonder how many of those nasty emails were actually sent by RWingers?

A little "ratfucking" to generate more publicity?

[proud patriot]

38. Her sign in that picture is Ironic to me

since she supports the traitors in the White House
lying to our Soldiers .

I guess that makes her a traitor too .

[orleans]

41. that was the first thing i thought of when i saw it! it's called

projection. these freaks seem to do it all the time.

[blogslut]

39. When it comes to silly folks like amanda...

...I prefer a different approach:

http://murthalied.net :)

[Redstone]

47. EXCELLENT!

Redstone

[calimary]

49. OMG!

Now THAT'S more like it!

Is this a "dirty trick"?

No. This is how the game is played now. As far below the belt as possible. As devious as possible. All bets and all gloves - permanently OFF. You have to work against the enemy in MANY MANY ways - large and small, overt and covert, above-board and - um - "otherwise." We didn't start this. We didn't taint the playing field and screw the rules. We didn't start this fight, but we CAN end it.

I figure the time to play - and fight - fair comes when THEY finally start doing so. Otherwise, let them gag down, or be tripped up by, their own medicine.

The only reason I'm convinced that we have to get messy is because we don't have our backs covered by ANY media echo chamber. We could take the high road once upon a time, because there once REALLY WAS a truly liberal-leaning media, or at least an independent, nonpartisan, objective media that saw reality for what it was - (as Stephen Colbert pointed out at the last White House Correspondents' dinner, reality has a liberal slant). The media was our partner in shedding light on high crimes and misdemeanors in the highest reaches of government. The media was NOT complicit, and did NOT have an axe to grind and didn't take sides. So it was absolutely possible to play fair and behave as ladies and gentlemen. WE DON'T HAVE THAT CONDITION IN EFFECT ANY MORE. NO MORE. The media is no longer our friend or our ally, it's no longer reliable, and we can't count on the truth being ferreted out by any further Woodward & Bernsteins from positions of prominence at prominent media outlets. We just don't have that in the mix anymore. It's gone. THAT, in my opinion, is why we have to adjust our own strategies and fight the way the rules have now been redefined, and beat the enemy at its own game. THAT is the only game there is, anymore. And until we have a large-scale impartial, TRULY objective media rather than one that parrots on and on about being "fair and balanced" and being anything but, we really don't have any other choice. That is, if we really want to win.

To beat a bully, you have to hit back, AND HIT BACK HARD.

I MEAN it.

They laugh at us because we still try to make nice, behave as ladies and gentlemen, and try to get along. We play by the rules and try to fight fair. We try to campaign on the truth and figure the truth will set us free. And look what happens when we do? I think it's mainly because there IS NO MORE media vehicle of any sort (aside from Keith Olbermann and Air America and Jon Stewart) that has our backs and helps us get the message out. We just DON'T HAVE THAT ANYMORE. I'm sorry it's come to this, but as long as we adhere to the old rules, that worked under the old conditions that included an unbiased, non-conservative media, the Fairness Doctrine and LESS, not more, deregulation, we're at a disadvantage. ONLY WHEN WE WIN can we change the timbre and the vibes and the rules of the game. ONLY WHEN WE'VE WON, WHEN WE'RE CALLING THE SHOTS, WHEN WE CONTROL THE AGENDA. ONLY THEN. ONLY THEN can we bring the media back to some semblance of impartiality because ONLY THEN might we have the votes to overpower the enemy and reinstate the Fairness Doctrine and pry the media out of its bias by force of law. Otherwise, we're only there for doormat duty, on which the enemy wipes its muddy jackboots (the same muddy jackboots they wore when they also deliberately stepped in a big pile of dogshit before the approached us).

It's also my suspicion that - when we DON'T fight back, that only feeds and verifies the wrong-headed idea that we're "soft on terrorism," or don't have what it takes to protect America. It's because making nice and trying to get along leaves the mistaken impression that we're soft, period, and that we don't stand for anything. Which, mind you, the enemy WILL NOT HESITATE to exploit and hammer home at every possible moment. THAT'S why we have to get tough, fight back, and hit hard. Yes. Even below the belt (even though I know that one's difficult because the target down there is rawther small). :evilgrin:

[Peanutcat]

40. Well, I sent her an e-mail earlier today.....

And pointed out a lot of the points that were brought up here. But I'm wondering, just what is Murtha supposed to have lied about? Surely to God if he's ever lied about anything someone would have stated exactly what the lies were. Makes me think, like some people brought up elswhere, make me think that somebody's gonna make up a bunch of crap.

[Peanutcat]

53. IT'S ALREADY STARTING, PEOPLE!!!!!

Makes me think, like some people brought up elsewhere, make me think that somebody's gonna make up a bunch of crap.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/27/murtha-quote/

[snowbear]

42. Another great "Bob Geiger Investigative Post" ... Thanks Bob!!

Once again, you're giving us the scoop on those weasely-ass dirtballs..

:hug: ~~~ ~~~ :hug:

[snappyturtle]

45. Go Bob!

You can bet we'll support any effort to protect Murtha....and I think you're right that Murtha will defend himself. Of course, if we defend Murtha we'll be labeled traitors! :scared:

[aden_nak]

48. "I am Amanda Doss, web designer by profession." - BULLSHIT

First of all, I don't even design websites anymore and I could make a better looking page than that in Notepad. But, seriously, no real web designer would ever let this sort of embarrassing meta tag appear in their code:

<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 4.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">

If by "web designer by profession" she means that she likes to make photo books of her kittens while politely waiting for people to not get back to her about making their websites, then sure, she's a "web designer by profession". But give me a break. All this page lacks is a rainbow-colored subject divider and a few spinning animated mail icons.

[Redstone]

50. You got that 100% right. "Professional Web Designer," my ass.

I happen to be one, myself. And I DON'T use Front Page. NO professional Web designer does.

Redstone

[Redstone]

51. Oh, this is funny. Here's her "Professional Web Designer" website.

http://www.amandaspages.com/

First of all, she gives her name as "Amanda Williams.

Second, her target market is scrapbookers. Takes a real PROFESSIONAL to do websites for scrapbooking, doesn't it?

Hee, hee, hee. I'll bet her little anti-Murtha site doesn't last long.

Redstone

[Arugula Latte]

52. It heartens me that the left is firing back at these people.

These rightwing fucknuts have been doing character assassination for so long, they can't believe it when they get their own crap slung back at them.

[Monkeyman]

54. Take a look at the progressive daily beacom .com

she getting handed her head by Murtha district and veterans