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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:39 PM
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It's like the MSM and the R's have never heard of people of differing opinions debating, voting, and
then moving forward. It confuses them. They are used to an edict by Rove of Frist or DeLay being issued and then they vote for it in lockstep 100%.

Fake Democracy (as practiced by our very own neo-Fascist/modern Republican Party) is very neat and tidy and cluttered up with very little actual debate followed by decision on the merits. REAL Democracy (as practiced by the Democrats) is messier.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:41 PM
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1. Nazi Germany anyone...they try to shut up and shut down
anyone who doesn't support their point of view, and then they threaten and then they become violent...
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:43 PM
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2. Didn't rumsfailed once say that demockracy was messy? Or does
that only apply to failed PNAC nation building exercises?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:44 PM
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3. The problem I have with the MSM is not what they're saying about
the Demvoting, but that they're NOT saying anything about the fact that Lott only won by 1 VOTE! Doesn't that sound like a lot more Party division to you?????
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 10:05 PM
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4. I was thinking the same thing this afternoon when Wolfie and
Crowley were on and they were asking if the Dems could overcome the devisiveness in their party, and making it a survey question! They are too used to marching orders, mandatory talking points, and rubber-stamping.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:11 PM
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5. Majority Rule vs Unanimous Consent?
Democratic Party believes in majority rule, which allows for dissent and diversity. Republican Party believes in unanimous consent, which requires everyone agree unanimously.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:19 PM
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6. We live in a Democracy!
Imagine that! :crazy:

Tell CNN to shove it! That's what I do!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:27 PM
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7. Excellent point, Phoebe Loosinhouse! I've been trying to focus that
feeling all day today. Why are the war profiteering corporate news monopolies so uneasy with debate, differing viewpoints, vote, pull together, move on--as if this is alien territory and must mean some terrible division? And you said it very well. They are used to "fake democracy."

I've been amused (and alternately enraged) by a couple things over the last fews days--primarily the prevalence of Republicans/Bushites given max gasbag time to analyze the elections that they LOST, and hours and hours and hours on how the SEVENTY PERCENT of the American people who want this war ended must be overridden.

It's like nothing happened. Ever. All is forgotten. What is past is past. And now we're onto the Republican "come-back."

Anyway, in all of this, the Democrats start acting like a free people--debating, disagreeing, taking sides, making decisions and preparing to run Congress, and the Bushites and their lapdog press stare at them, with drool coming out of their mouths, like they CAN'T BELIEVE what they are seeing and it doesn't compute for them--so they start bubbling about "the rift" in the Democratic majority!

Well, I've got some years on most of you folks, and I can tell you: This is the way it USED TO BE. This is what a REAL Congress looks like. It may not be there yet, as a representative body (far from it, in fact--but definitely improved). But this is what Congresses DO. And the Democrats--like the creaky "Tin Man" in the Wizard of Oz--are starting to exercise long unused limbs and joints. They are acting like they are SUPPOSED TO ACT. Choosing leaders. Fighting about it. Jockeying for position. Forming coalitions. Arguing points with each other. Losing. Winning. This is what democracy LOOKS LIKE, in its legislative form. And this is what we HAD--for all of the decades of my life, prior to the Bush Junta and the Bush "pod people" running Congress. (Orrin Hatch & brethren always remind me of the white ooze coming out of the pods in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and the monoculture human robots that emerged.)

What the corporate news monopolies seem to think democracy is, is ONE POWERFUL LEADER telling everybody what to do. They can relate to monolithic power. And they don't know how to interpret its opposite--except to consult the "talking points" given to them from above.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 12:57 AM
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8. Yep! K&R.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 01:10 AM
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9. They assumed their Republican Reichstag was going to be...
...a permanent institution. Hell, for that matter, I was starting to think that, too. Guess we "shocked the World"...:D
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 08:00 AM
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10. Agreed - I've never heard such a brouhaha over nothing.
It's as if they want to trash Democrats in some way from day one. But, of course, that can't be true because it's the "liberal" media.:sarcasm:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 08:15 AM
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11. Repugs don't do that. It'll take a while
for them to get used to it again.
;-)
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