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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:45 AM
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2008 Electoral Vote Prediction:


Democratic Locks: 250
Wa - 11
Or - 7
Ca - 55
Mn - 10
Wi - 10
Il - 21
Mi - 17
Oh - 20 (you betcha)
Pa - 21
Hi - 4
Dc - 3
Md - 10
Ny - 31
Ct - 7
Ri - 4
Ma - 12
Vt - 3
Me - 4

Democratic Leaners: 45
CO - 9
Mt - 3
Ia - 7
Va - 13
Nh - 4
La - 9 (with enough ads, trust me.)


Democratic Maybes 68
Az - 10
Nc - 15
Mo- 11
Nm - 5
Fl - 27


It takes 270 to win. The easiest route to 270 after the 250 guarantee is:
Dem. Locks + Virginia (13) + Colorado (9) = 272
or
Dem. Locks + Virginia (13) + Louisiana (9) = 272
or
Dem. Locks + Virginia + Iowa (7) = 270
or
Dem. Locks + Virginia + New Hampshire (4) + Montana (3) = 270


Any non-Hillary (From a political science standpoint, she has baggage) Democrat will win in a landslide (300+ electoral votes). Only McCain makes it slightly more difficult for a Dem. in Colorado, Arizona, Virginia and a few other key 2008 swing states.
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citygal Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:47 AM
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1. No republican president has EVER won without
capturing Ohio. Therefore, as Ohio goes, so goes the nation...I think it is blue for at least the next election cycle. (At least it now has a Democratic SOS.)
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:49 AM
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2. The reason for the non Hillary is that most dems will stay home if it's her
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:50 AM
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3. Agreed, her negatives are too high,
and that's a liability to turnout. That's a sad but true, basic campaign/election rule.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:08 PM
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21. An assumption supported by what?
DU sentiment?

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BlueStateModerate Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:51 AM
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4. Ohio a lock?
That seems to be kind of a stretch.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 05:02 AM
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9. Ohio is purple turning blue, but there are still ALOT of red pockets
that could turn out to bite us in the ass in '08. I know, I lived in a red pocket, I escaped that hell in May. :)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 02:09 PM
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15. No more GOP control of all the voting machines in Ohio. BIG difference.
Dean has worked to REBUILD Ohio's collapsed party infrastructure. Ohio is strong for us now, as it would have been in 2004 if Terry McAuliffe had actually done his job and secured the election process after 2000 as he had promised.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:51 AM
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5. Louisiana will be bright red in 2008
Sorry but that's the way it is. Despite the fact that the deadly incompetence came from Bush, Blanco and Nagin are Democrats and both have done a terrible job in the aftermath. Not only that but the people who were actually effected by the storm don't live here anymore for the most part.

And Ohio and Pennsylvania are by no means democratic locks.
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citygal Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:59 AM
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6. The only thing encouraging about Ohio is that
Blackwell is no longer SOS and cannot "fix" the election. Not to bring up old news, but I still think Kerry won Ohio.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 01:01 AM
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7. No argument there, Ohio will at least be fair this time and that is a huge help
Not to mention that Strickland and Brown will certainly be able to help turn out the vote for our nominee.
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 12:03 PM
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12. Plus Mary Landrieu usually votes with the pukes
It's sort of like a female Lieberman.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 01:39 PM
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13. I've interned for Senator Landrieu, her job is not easy
Edited on Tue Jan-16-07 01:41 PM by Hippo_Tron
Lieberman is from a solid blue state and really has no excuse for what he does, especially since he's an active warmonger and even more supportive of Bush than some Republicans.

Landrieu has to get elected a far more complicated state that is becoming more and more red by the day. You would not believe the number of phone calls we got asking us to vote for the flag burning and gay marriage amendments and to vote to repeal the "death tax". The estate tax was the saddest part because people living in FEMA trailers actually thought that they would have to pay it.
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rollin74 Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 05:00 AM
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8. What about NV
In my opinion, Democrats have a better chance of carrying Nevada than any of your "Democratic Leaners" (with the possible exception of Iowa)

I also have to agree that PA and OH cannot be considered locks
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 05:03 AM
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10. PA will continue to go blue. Too much dissent in the
Philly suburbs with Bushler since 2004.
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rep the dems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 03:43 PM
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16. I agree. We've voted Democratic 5 elections in a row I believe,
and my traditionally conservative district recently elected Patrick Murphy as our Representative. Rendell will likely campaign for the Democratic nominee, and everyone loves Rendell. I'm very confident we'll win PA in '08.
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MasterDarkNinja Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:57 AM
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11. As a PA resident I can say that PA is definitely not a lock yet
PA has definitely been turning bluer lately, but it's not a lock yet. We may have won the senate and governor race by huge majories, but take a closer look at those elections.

In the senate we had Rick Santorum to oust, who was an extreme conservative and big Bush supporter, plus we ran a moderate that appealed to independent voters and couldn't be painted as too liberal for PA.

In the governor election Ed Rendell had done a decent job and was fairly popular among PA residents. Plus the antiBush tide that election certainly helped him. His opponent wasn't all that great either, and ran weaker ads compared to Rendell's.

I'd put PA under the leaning democratic catagory, since we've gone blue for the last 4 presidential elections.
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vireo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 02:06 PM
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14. Wisconsin not a lock, either
It's always in play. MN is only slightly more reliable.

I would call NM a leaner, but not VA, which hasn't gone to the Democrat since 1964. LA is also quite a longshot.
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Daylin Byak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-17-07 04:08 PM
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17. Here are my predictions
Edited on Wed Jan-17-07 04:16 PM by Daylin Byak
Divided in the sections of, good chance and in play

Good chance of winning

-washington
-oregon
-california
-Colorado
-Minnesota
-Wisconsin
-Illinois
-Michigan
-Pennsylvania
-New York
-Maine
-Vermont
-New Hampshire
-Massachusetts
-Rhode Island
-Connecticut
-Delaware
-New Jersey
-Maryland

States that could be in play for Democrats if we play our cards right

-New Mexico
-Nevada
-Iowa
-Ohio
-Arkansas
-West Virginia
-Virginia

Oh by the way since were on '08 predictions, I might as well make my predictions for the Senate since i'm here, here goes.

The Democrats will lost Louisiana hands down, Mary Landrieu will by loking for a new job come January of 2009. Out of all the Republican seats up for re-election the Dems have a good shot of picking up four seats which will be Colorado, Oregon, Maine and Minnesota and with the right candidates we could North Carolina is Mike Easley runs and Virginia if John Warner retires(then Mark Warner can enter the race and be the frontrunner)

Comments?
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 09:55 AM
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18. Warner or Webb for VP
I think if Warner or WEbb were the VP, we would win Virginia.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 11:53 AM
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19. This is awfully early to be predicting the
election. Chris M. had a guest from California who blatantly
stated. " McCain can beat Hillary in California." "There are a
lot of Democrats who will vote for McCain." I know not that
much about California, but I found this interesting information.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:56 PM
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20. Hmmm. I'm getting a shaky feeling about California, actually.
But it's good to know you're confident.
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