they are just waiting for a felony

[mopinko]

waiting for the msm to be unable to avoid admitting that at least oneadmitted act is a felony. and that either * or vader are obviously implicated.
i think that when the dems can tie the rotting carcass of an obvious crime they will have their predicate high crime, and they will dive in. the plame case will be the end for them. i believe the dam is starting to leak.
i wonder if the trial was pusposely started right now.

[fooj]

1. How about TREASON?

:bounce:

[MonkeyFunk]

2. What about it?

I wish people would stop throwing that word around. Doing something that hurts the country isn't necessarily treason.

[shraby]

3. When a NOC has their cover broken

by the administration, that is treason plain and simple. That particular NOC was monitoring the sales of licit and illicit nuclear components. By blowing her cover they gave aid and comfort to the enemy which in effect is any country belligerent to the U.S., or the terrorists who will buy the components on the black market to further their terror activities. We now effectively have no eyes and ears on the ground because they have been closed. Don't ever try to tell me this isn't treason.

[MonkeyFunk]

5. sorry

it's not treason.

Treason has a very precise constitutional definition, and it ain't this.

I'm not in any way excusing how wrong and stupid and even illegal it was for them to do this - but it's not treason.

[mike_c]

4. bringing down Valerie Plame's intel network arguably gave material aid...

...to conspiracies against America. This would meet the constitutional definition, IMO-- but proving it would be difficult before the fact.

I agree with you in general-- the word "treason" has very narrow meaning in American law and is used all too frequently around here.

[MonkeyFunk]

6. Yes, perhaps it did....

but it doesn't mean Bush et. al. took up arms against the US or "adhered" to the US's enemies.

The reason I object to the mis-use of the term is that it's often applied - probably even MORE often - to people on our side.

Something that makes our enemies happy doesn't rise to treason. Every time a Dem criticizes Bush, the freepers accuse them of treason.

I think both sides should stop throwing the charge around.

[mike_c]

7. adhering to enemies OR providing aid and comfort....

eom

[MonkeyFunk]

8. Nope

there's no "or" in there.

Section 3: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.