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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 02:23 PM
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Poll question: Whose Speech Did You Like Better, Obama's Or Clinton's?
I watched both, and both were excellent, but I give the edge to . . .
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 02:24 PM
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1. Obama's gonna win on the virtue that most on DU suuports him
But honestly I think they were pretty even.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 02:25 PM
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2. Trying to be as unbiased as possible
I think Obama is a better orator than Hillary. She did a good job as well, though.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 02:25 PM
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3. Obama is an orator.
He speaks, you listen. He used reality better than she did today. JMO. I really like Hillary, but she gets strident when she speaks.....kind of a turn off.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 02:32 PM
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6. She needs to learn to modulate her tone - soft, firm, then powerful...
She seems to have insufficient variation in her tone.

She also lacked a theme for her speech. While I wasn't personally thrilled by the religious tones of Obama's "Joshua Generation" theme, it still worked.

Hillary seems to be doing what Bill did - creating a "program" by pulling together a collection of issues important to voters. Survey the voters and then give them what they want, even if this don't produce coherent program and we can't tell if she HAS any principles that will guide her efforts in office. Obama, in contrast, is speaking from a principled position.

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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 08:30 PM
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25. She never seems quite comfortable in her own skin to me
There's something always self-conscious and staged about her speeches. Sincere, but lacking in charisma.

I don't think there's anything she said that I could take issue with. But she didn't move me. Obama was impressive.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 03:07 PM
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9. Oration isn't going to fix what wrong with our government. nm
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 05:33 PM
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15. That wasn't the OP's inquiry.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 02:27 PM
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4. I think they both did exceptionally well.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 02:28 PM
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5. I know the vets in Il are backing Obama but I have not made up my mind yet
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 02:56 PM
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7. They both did well. But I liked Obama's better.
Gobama!
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Learn2Swim Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 03:06 PM
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8. Obama
makes Hillary look like a robot.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 03:38 PM
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10. Hillary...
Makes Hillary look like a robot. But I have to give her her due. She was rather loose today.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 11:47 PM
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32. DING DING DING! Kahuna, you're our grand prize winner!
Hillary makes Hillary look like a robot...

Her monotone reminds me of Kerry's first few speeches. Combined with overscripted speeches, she comes across as less than sincere.

:headbang:
rocknation
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 03:44 PM
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11. Definitely --- without a doubt --- 100% Senator Obama !!!

He was incredible!!

Senator Clinton.. try as she may -- she's just not the Big Dawg.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 03:50 PM
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12. I thought they both did
well but suspect Obama scored more points. There is something about Hillary's voice that I find irritating but don't know what it is. Obama was a little low key today but I think this is the way he wanted it. I like it when he talks about personal responsibility. I have never seen another candidate do this so well.
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 05:25 PM
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13. Reverend Lowery's speech was the best one of the day. n/t
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 08:30 PM
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26. Ah, now I wish I'd caught that one! nt
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 05:31 PM
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14. Other: I missed it :(
Though I'm sure the MSM will catch me up this week :toast:

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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 05:38 PM
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16. Hillary is a shrill speaker
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 05:41 PM
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17. I really liked both speeches
with that said, Obama's speech connected with me more .
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 07:19 PM
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18. Are there any links to these speeches?
I'm particularly interested in Obama's.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 07:27 PM
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19. Text of the speech here, but no video yet.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 07:37 PM
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21. Thanks a lot, but I think I'll wait for the video.
I want to see the delivery.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 07:29 PM
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20. Hillary's speech here, text only so far.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 07:44 PM
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22. its not even close Hillary did ok but Obama is the best orator the party has..
sense Mario Cuomo. the more Obama gives speeches like this the better he gets. right now Hillary is beating him among woman in the party if he starts to talk about female issues watch out.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 07:48 PM
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23. Both speeches were inspiring.
Realizing it's so very DU to denigrate one candidate at the expense of another, what occurred to me was the positive energy our candidates bring as opposed to the opposition, i.e., the GOP.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 08:51 PM
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31. You nailed it
Instead of posting how both speeches were great, we need to have a poll which pits one popular candidate vs another very unpopular (only on DU, that is) candidate. Any which way that Hillary can be one-upped is welcomed with open arms, eh.

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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 08:11 PM
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24. Hillary hit some nice tones
But Obama's speech was symphonic.
I thought the generational theme was very a nice analogical reference.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 08:40 PM
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27. they were both excellent
....but I'll go with Barack Obama! He has that MLK cadence to his speech, and it was a great conversational/sermon/political speech.

Hillary's was good too, but I imagine that it was written by someone else and the delivery was a bit too hard edge for me. She reminded me of someone trying for a fire and brimstone preacher ending to her sermon.......with applause lines built in.

In terms of substance, for the occasion, I found both speeches very well done and appropriate.

Clinton maybe included more.....like referring the victims of the recent tornadoes. I though however she'd call for a moment of silence....but didn't.

In his speech, Obama said he was of the Joshua Generation to the older Moses Generation that did the actual marching and parting of the sea. That was a very well done biblical analogy discussed in an appropriate setting. In addition Obama answered his critics as to why he can represent African-Americans just fine.

Obama is an orator.
Hillary is a politician.

The difference was noted.
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RedG1 Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 08:42 PM
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28. Obama used "I" too often in the speech...
counted 75 (versus Hillary at 14)...

I DO like him...but something about the ego thing bothers me <shrug>
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 08:47 PM
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29. Maybe he's talking about himself more, because we don't know him well
and so unlike Hillary, he has to tell us something about himself everytime he has a chance.

His mission today was to link himself to the African American Community....by explaining where he's came from, and what makes him the same, and not different from Black Folks....something that has been a running commentary via the media.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 08:50 PM
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30. Between Hillary's shrillness and Obama's substance-less generalities
Edited on Sun Mar-04-07 08:50 PM by brentspeak
I'd say, neither. Edwards, Gore, and Clark are better public speakers.
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