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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 08:56 AM
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Jurors want libby pardoned??
Last night on Countdown, two jurors on the libby trial indicated they'd like to seem him pardoned. But I interpreted their rationale as, yes libby lied but he was without a doubt the fall guy and any punishment in this evolution should be reserved for others up the chain.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 08:57 AM
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1. no pardons
unless Rove and Cheney are indicted and convicted
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:01 AM
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2. I'll take that twofer
cheney and rove in chains and we'll set libby free. Lets throw in limbaugh and hannity as well.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:03 AM
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4. No. He had alternatives to doing what he did.
He could have quit. He could have told the truth.

I would give him the full 25 years. He lied about a TREASON investigation.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:05 AM
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7. Make it a 'three for' ... NO PARDONS. Leave that to the God
of their choice.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:33 AM
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11. Okay
You guys sold me. No Pardons. I was sharing my interpretation of their motives but I've read here a very good argument against any such rationale. However, I would find cheney and rove convictions much more satisfying then anything that might happen to libby.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:03 AM
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3. Who cares what the jury wants?
They did their job and I am grateful. I don't quite understand their empathy exactly...


I speculate that they are incapable of comprehending the big picture...obviously....Or..... Another excuse is that they are afraid for their life and their family.....they did convict Libby and that may draw repercussions from the cabal??????
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enough already Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:03 AM
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5. Screw him
Let him rot in jail, then in hell.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:05 AM
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6. The spineless weasels
Haven't they ever heard of jury nullification? If they didn't think libby should be the fall guy they could always find him innocent in the face of the overwhelming evidence, and thereby send a signal to the prosecutor that they felt the wrong person was on trial. Instead they want somebody else to do what they didn't have the guts to do. Personally I think he should serve the maximum sentence for his crimes unless he implicates higher ups in the plot, but this just seems cowardly to me.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:18 AM
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8. A pardon for Libby IS A PARDON for Bush Cheney Rove and all
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 09:20 AM by higher class
the people on their staff.

My protest sign reads"

LIBBY PARDON
PARDONS
BU-RO-CH
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:24 AM
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10. I would interpret
a pardon of libby by bush as an admission of guilt. But it sure won't matter to a man that has no integrity, no moral compass, not one ounce of honesty in his being. The only thing bush has going for him is a real estate deal in Paraguay, a country which does not have an extradition treaty with the U.S..
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:59 AM
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13. May I add -
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 10:00 AM by higher class
- a pardon for Libby is acknowledgement of covert status (otherwise the Novak column would not have mentioned the wife)

- what George also has going for him is a lifetime of revelatory stories and testimony >
Political plus Policy plus Personal stories and testimony

But, as of now, we still don't have acknowledgement of purpose and gain from the takedown of Brewster-Jennings.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:04 AM
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14. Interesting
No doubt some brilliant conservative scholar is working on the issue right now. The need to bring down Brewster-Jennings. Our brilliant conservative president and his staff knew all along that Plame was undercover and needed to stop her activities for the sake of national security. limbaughs students would eat it up.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:23 AM
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9. What Part Of The Guilty Verdict That They Rendered Did They Not Understand
So should we get rid of the justice system because someone is a "nice" guy and they would be sorry to see him go to jail? Where is the deterrent for others? If Ford and *1 hadn't done it, maybe the message would have been delivered. And really, Libby, a nice guy? Let's see, part of WHIG, helped devise a plan to lie us into war. I'd say there is plenty of blood on his hands.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:55 AM
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15. I agree.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:50 AM
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12. the jurors' checks cleared ...
thanks to the bottomless checkbook of Rupert Murdoch and Scaife ...
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:12 AM
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16. Then then should have voted to aquit
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ObamaNationYes Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:26 AM
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17. CHECK IT OUT - FRONT PAGE ON MSNBC
Plus Collins (Juror 9) says he would have "NO PROBLEM" with the pardon!
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 04:05 PM
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18. Too damned bad...that jurors....1 thru 11....already gave their opinion
now they need to keep their mouths shut, and let justice take over.....IMO this was an act of TREASON...They were a jury of his peers and they found him guilty so there should be NO PARDON/S...for this crooked bunch who knew what they were doing when they outed her and still did it anyway...Who cares if Libby is the fall guy...??? IF he hadn't been involved, he couldn't have found himself in that spot...right?....it's all about CHOICES....too bad Libby made the WRONG ones...TOUGH!!
windbreeze
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