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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 09:54 AM
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Hey Giuliani, go Fuck Yourself
Just like the decency the GOP showed Hillary. Absolutely.

<snip> While most candidates were busy spinning their fundraising numbers to members of the press, GOP hopeful Rudy Giuliani had a slightly different message Monday: Stop attacking his wife. "Attack me all you want," Giuliani told reporters. "There's plenty to attack me about. Please do it. But maybe, you know, show a little decency."

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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 09:55 AM
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1. He meant, "Stop attacking my THIRD wife."
:eyes:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 09:56 AM
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2. Didn't he have liaisons with another woman in Gracie Mansion while his wife...
was there, recovering from cancer. He's a fine one to talk about decency. ....Have you no decency, Rudy? Of course not.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 09:58 AM
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3. you mean your wife the dog killer? maybe you'd enjoy a threesome
with frist the cat killer?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:08 AM
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6. What;'s the 'dog killer' stuff about?
:shrug:
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:41 AM
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8. More or less...
She had a job demonstrating new medical equipment to doctors and hospitals, and the demonstrations were done on dogs which were killed afterwards (or were killed during the demonstrations), can't remember which. The dogs didn't die in animal testing or anything - the product was good to go - they died to help the sales of the product.

TlalocW
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:53 AM
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9. !
:wow:
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 09:58 AM
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4. To a certain extent, I can see his point, BUT
Edited on Tue Apr-03-07 09:58 AM by no_hypocrisy
when you put your wife out as an asset to the press in order to garner more campaign dollars, she's fair game. YOU keep mentioning how smart, savvy, experienced she is, what a wonderful pillar of support she is, how she is your best counselor.

Well, people will be entitled to have a balanced opinion of her because YOU BROUGHT HER INTO THE DEBATE as an extension of yourself, and her deficits as well as your own will be examined.

If you had kept her in the background, say like Bess Truman or Mamie Eisenhower, you wouldn't have to gratuitiously and faux chivalrously defend her. You created the issue and it became a problem.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:34 AM
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7. He also said he would allow her to sit in on cabinet meetings.
1. No one is voting for Judith to sit in on public policy and the running of this country.
2. Considering her choice in men, I wouldn't trust her opinion for one second.
3. She has no morals at all. To go into the very house (even tho it's the Gov's mansion) that a man's
family is living in and sleep with the sleezy bastard says something about the lack of decency
of this woman.
4. Repeat number 2...
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:08 AM
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5. Soon as you, Rudy, stop attacking Bill Clinton....
I mean, he is the spouse of a prez candidate, right?
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 12:02 PM
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10. Gosh, There's So Much To Be Said For
...simply telling them to their faces to go fuck themselves. One of the things I'm proudest of in my life involved that.

I worked at the big, tall, glassy home office of a corporation of which you will have heard. I was a high-level grunt, not a manager, but experienced & technically advanced at my work. Still, I had to wear a tie. At the next cubicle was a young woman in her late twenties who did the same kind of work I did. Nice kid. We'll call her Phoebe. Our department worked regularly with a related department to produce educational materials for the company at large. Phoebe worked with Ostermyer, who had been hired to captain the most expensive & revered of the educational pieces.

Ostermyer... Well, I'm prejudiced, but he was a decidedly unsavory character. Mean face & voice, a veteran suck-up, back-stabber, coward & bully. A lunch-hour drinker. A classic example of the very worst kind of vicious, ambitious, corporate toady. He'd've been right at home in the court of the Borgias. He was the second or third choice for the position. His resume — this is a grown man in his late thirties, early forties we're talking about here — mentioned prominently that he had been named "Outstanding Young Man Of The Year" by his local golf club or something, back when he was in high school. There were also indications that he had been fired from at least one job for chasing young women around the desk, so to speak. A pathetic specimen, but dangerous.

Well, of course, Ostermyer predatorially fell in lust with Pheobe. They worked together anyway, but he was always in her cubicle, speaking in a creepy, smarmy voice, trying to be hip by twenty-something standards, standing too close to her chair. Ugh! It was nasty to be next to, I can tell you. She spurned his advances, & the situation devolved to the point where he was harassing her with dozens of drunken, salacious phone calls to her home every night. She complained to the higher-ups, who did absolutely nothing about it. In fact, they seemed to reward Ostermyer, putting him in a closed office down another hallway on the grounds of removing him from the immediate area. It went on for months. Morale in the department, never sky-high to begin with, plummeted. Ostermyer took to wearing copious amounts of cologne, leaving a scent trail wherever he went. Weird, huh? But true. A real psychopath, I think. He was at one point brought in to his superior's office & dressed down about the whole thing, to which he responded with defiance, actually grinding out a cigarette on the surface of his boss's hardwood desk. And still they didn't fire him!

Phoebe finally had enough. She & I happened to live in the same suburban town, although we didn't socialize. But she came over one Sunday. She couldn't take it any more, couldn't even stand to go in there the next day, & asked me to deliver her resignation letter for her. Reluctantly, I agreed.

The next day, the department was in a mixture of disgust & relief. The bad guys had won, but at least this particular misery was over. Ostermyer was nowhere to be seen. That evening I was going home, walking with the crowds through the home office's shiny steel & marble four-storey lobby, when who should show up walking toward me but Ostermyer. I had never made much of a secret of my opinion of him, but I think it still surprised him when I said, "Hey, Ostermyer, terrorize any small children lately?"

He stopped, turned, &, angry, said, "Hey pal, I think you better chill out..."

I looked him in the eye & said, "Hey, pal, I think you better go fuck yourself," then turned around & walked away, but not before I had the pleasure of seeing him swell up & turn purple.

I got home & called the department's uber-vice-president — someone's incompetent, perky, blonde niece — & related our exchange. Ostermyer was gone the next day. I was gone within six months myself, put on the bad apple list & swept out in one of their regular word-to-the-wise mass layoffs. Best thing that ever happened to me. I ain't never workin' on Maggie's Farm again!

I came across Ostermyer again, at least I'm pretty sure it was him, same name, on the Net. He had a Web site, this is the absolute truth, which offered his professional services in rewriting & polishing up the letters men wrote to women in response to Personals Ads. Fitting.

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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 12:26 PM
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11. Sometimes it just needs to be said
Just as Dick Cheney, right?
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 01:07 PM
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12. Maybe
...though I suspect Big Richard's FU to Pat Leahy was more in the way of calculated aggression, while mine to the corporate toady was reflex contempt.

Or maybe I just don't want to have to imagine, shudder, that I might have anything in common with the VP, despite the similarities in our vocabularies.

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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 01:10 PM
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Mea culpa! I didn't mean to compare you on any level with the Dick
Unless you're a disgusting hybrid reptile-insect (repsect? instile?) you're not even the same species :-D
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 02:07 PM
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14. Not To Worry
I didn't take it that way.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 01:10 PM
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13. I am happy to be the first one to recommend your post
Anyone who turns the tables on Giuliani like you did deserves huge kudos.

Go fuck yourself, Giuliani is right on!!

:toast:
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 02:26 PM
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15. We should leave her alone
Just as much as they did Hillary, Tipper, and Theresa. Fuck, these people had the nerve to call a 12 year old girl a dog. Chelsea has become a much bigger success than the Bush Twins will ever become. Unless partying to excess, shopping and acting stupid defines success.
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