Mitt Romney and the CIA's Mormon hiring preference....

[EVDebs]

Time Magazine, August 4, 1997, has an article titled "Kingdom Come" by David Van Biema (in fact, the entire magazine issue is about the Mormon Church, titled 'Mormons, Inc.: The secrets of America's most prosperous religion')

On page 52 I read, "The FBI and CIA, drawn by a seemingly incorruptible rectitude, have instituted Mormon-recruiting plans."

No offense to the seemingly incorruptible Mormons but if you get into the CIA you can bet some of your covert ops (domestic and foreign) are going to be 'dirty work'.

Which begs the question re Mitt Romney's candidacy. Will Mitt keep that hiring preference ? What is the current status of this preference and how long has it been in effect ? I understand Bush/Cheney and Republicans in general are at something like 90% favorable ratings in polls taken in this reddest of red states.

[aquart]

1. Really? What red states would that be?

Are you still using 2000 maps?

[EVDebs]

4. 2004 Utah election map, looks very red to me

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/countymap.htm

but that's changing fast as 'red' means 'embarassed' now.

[formercia]

2. I had a Mormon supervisor at the CIA

For the most part, Mormons have little trouble getting a security clearance and many have traveled overseas doing missionary work, so it's not too surprising that many work for the CIA. My supervisor was honest and fair and never tried to push his views on anyone.

[Blue Meany]

3. I do rememer that when I was doing graduate work in

Middle East studies back in the 1980s, the University of Utah's program had a reputation for turning out CIA staffers, much like Georgetown turns out diplomats. It was one of the lower-tier programs, but government employment tended to attract lower-tier students anyway.

[EVDebs]

5. I've also heard that most pit bosses handling $ in Vegas casinos,

along with the five named guys that controlled Howeird Hughes, were/are Mormons. Interesting, since the CIA could control a portion of the 'skim' they needed out of Vegas under the ruse of ousting the Mafia, when really the two entities were 'in bed' together at least on the money aspects. When Hughes left Vegas and the mob was eased out the CIA-- by that time using the Golden Triangle's heroin for much of its offthebooks ops-- would occassionally need extra help. Hughe's Glomar vessel, in Operation Jennifer, is an example of that.

Yeoman Radford, of the Moorer/Radford JCS-spying-on-Kissinger affair, was an up and coming young low-level Mormon. But Jack Anderson and up-and-comer Brit Hume were/are Mormon's too.

I wonder if Anderson's files were ever obtained by the spooks ? Has anybody heard futher on that ?

[formercia]

10. I remember Glomar

at least the official movie version that everyone had to watch.

[AngryAmish]

7. I have been told the CIA like highly religious people

They have more of a sense of guilt.

[formercia]

9. One supervisor told me

they like people with a larcenous streak. Scroungers do well. It makes it a lot easier to co-opt people.

[EVDebs]

6. So DUers, do you think the M$M will even ASK Romney about this ?

Since with Attorney-gate and the Mormon preference in hiring, our DOJ/FBI/CIA would appear to be chock full of Mormons by now, why would these agencies need more of them ????

[Freddie Stubbs]

8. "Mormon recruiting plans" does not necessarily equal a "hiring preference "

This is a confusion that people often make about Affirmative Action. One component of AA is making a conscious effort to make sure that there are more minorities in the applicant pool. This does not mean that you will treat those applicants any different than non-minority applicants.

[EVDebs]

12. It sounds like you're talking about a distinction without a difference

You say tomato I say Toe-Motto. The well-scrubbed little automatons not used to critical thinking in the big-bad-wolfie world are either a new Jonestown within the CIA or what ?

I'd like the media or someone in Congress to ask these questions I've brought up. It seems like Mormons like Brett Scowcroft, former National Security Advisor to Bush I

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Scowcroft

may have been an early recipient of the affirmative action you say didn't take place.

[Gen. Jack D. Ripper]

11. I work with a lot of Mormons

Living in Salt Lake and all. I also happen to work with IRS employees in my job and I have been surprised at how many of the Criminal Investigations guys are Mormon. I don't know, I guess being a smug, authoritarian prick with a superiority complex comes natural to most Mormons. ;)

[Ninja Jordan]

13. mormon = robot