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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 10:32 AM
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McCain: Every "Sensible" Observer Favors Giving Escalation A Chance
I think he's insulting us, my friends.

http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/apr/08/mccain_every_sensible_observer_favors_escalation


McCain: Every "Sensible" Observer Favors Giving Escalation A Chance
By Greg Sargent | bio

The rollout of John McCain's "new" political strategy of aggressively arguing for pressing ahead in Iraq begins today with a McCain-authored Op-ed piece in this morning's Washington Post.

There's plenty to dig into in this piece, but I just wanted to highlight one thing. In the article McCain repeats many of his standard formulations about the hidden good news in Iraq and the alleged refusal of the press to report on it. He concludes:

There is no guarantee that we will succeed, but we must try. As every sensible observer has concluded, the consequences of failure in Iraq are so grave and so threatening for the region, and to the security of the United States, that to refuse to give Petraeus's plan a chance to succeed would constitute a tragic failure of American resolve. I hope those who cite the Iraq Study Group's conclusions note that James Baker wrote on this page last week that we must have bipartisan support for giving the new strategy time to succeed.


Never mind that many of the observers McCain surely thinks of as sensible, such as Colin Powell, the Joint Chiefs, some military commanders, and plenty of Republicans in Congress, opposed escalation completely at the outset -- and hence presumably don't think it can work, even if given a chance.

More to the point, the whole question about whether we should support giving escalation "a chance" is a big fat ruse. It's nothing but code for backing the continuation of the current policy indefinitely, with no set deadline at which we'll decide whether it's succeeded or failed, and no set of meaningful standards by which such a judgment could even be made. Is this really the course of action favored by "every sensible observer" in the United States? Who are the people McCain thinks of as "sensible observers," anyway?

Also check out McCain's assertion that James Baker wrote in the Washington Post a few days ago that escalation should be given a chance. But Baker actually argued in his piece for the implementation of the Iraq Study Group's prescriptions. While the ISG did say it could abide a short-term surge, the ISG also explicitly opposed an "open-ended" troop commitment and also called on the administration to do a bunch of other things it isn't doing now. So it's very hard indeed to read Baker's piece as support for the current strategy, which again is open-ended -- unless, of course, you're determined to read it that way.

Anyway, there's plenty here to dig into. Have fun.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 10:37 AM
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1. What McCain doesn't seem to grasp is that the American people
have grown weary of this war and want it to end, whether they have genuine concerns for our soldiers or because they have a national case of ADD. We're not all breathlessly waiting for the "surge" verdict, like he obviously is--to the rest of us, it's just more war.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 10:40 AM
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2. If he's so clueless as not to glean the will of the Americans, he deserves
to pack it in and, as another DUer suggested, get his metal detector out and walk the beaches into the sunset.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 11:02 AM
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7. I think HE thinks he's showing true political courage by defying the will
of the American people. That's what is sad. That's why he's digging in even deeper. Why doesn't his wife get him to hang it up--or has she already measured for the drapes and slipcovers in the WH?
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 10:47 AM
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3. I am a sensible observer and I oppose the surge. How about
you?
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 10:48 AM
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4. If by 'sensible' you mean 'senile.'
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 10:50 AM
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5. Yes, indeed, Al Sadtr just called for one! dumbasses! n/t
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 11:00 AM
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6. These people do not take terrorism seriously
They are endangering the future of our great nation by their own arrogance.
With the treat of possible nuclear weapons falling into the hands of idiots they continue to ignore the advice and council of knowledgeable people over and over again.
Not to seek advice with the stakes so high is pure madness.
War is the result of failed diplomacy and the * administration is best at failure.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 11:06 AM
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9. I agree with you that we foster more future terrorism every day, with many
young boys and men in Iraq, Iran, and Syria watching our "infidel" occupation with angry eyes, and Arab countries like Saudi Arabia beginning to condemn our policies.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 11:04 AM
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8. Here are the real questions....
...why does John McCain only want 30% of the general election vote if he is nominated? Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of winning?
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 11:08 AM
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10. Help me, help me!!!
John McCain doesn't think I'm sensible!

Whatever will I do?
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-08-07 11:16 AM
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11. McCain just called most Americans stupid.
That's probably not the best way to get votes.
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