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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 09:43 AM
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Obama Ranks High in MoveOn Virtual Town Meeting Votes
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 10:19 AM by DeepModem Mom
NYT: April 12, 2007,
Obama Ranks High in MoveOn Votes
By Jeff Zeleny

The results are coming in from the MoveOn Virtual Town Meeting, the Tuesday forum for Democratic presidential candidates to talk about Iraq. Tens of thousands of members of the liberal group voted for which candidate they believe best represented their views on Iraq.

Here’s an early look at how the candidates stacked up, in the minds of MoveOn members. The results are simply a straw poll - a snapshot in time - of how the candidates’ message resonates with at least some Democratic primary voters.

Obama - 27.9 percent
Edwards 24.7 percent
Kucinich - 17.2 percent
Richardson - 12.3 percent
Clinton - 10.7 percent
Biden - 6.2 percent
Dodd - 1.1 percent

These numbers, like most poll results should be written in pencil - not ink - because it’s only April and, of course, the nomination is not decided state-by-state. Still, is it a measure of something?

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/obama-ranks-high-in-moveon-votes/

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AN UPDATE: The MoveOn press release, which was sent out a few minutes ago, provided a second category to rank the candidates: How people voted who attended the House Parties on Tuesday night.

The winner in that tally? Mr. Edwards, followed by Mr. Richardson and Mr. Obama.

It is, at least for junkies, an interesting distinction. For people with enough motivation to attend one of the parties across the country, they favored Mr. Edwards and Mr. Richardson over Mr. Obama.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 10:09 AM
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1. I wish the polling in Iowa and New Hampshire looked more like those MoveOn numbers (except I'd like
to see Dodd up near Kucinich).
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 10:15 AM
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2. Update from your link:
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 10:18 AM by Catchawave
Update: The MoveOn press release, which was sent out a few minutes ago, provided a second category to rank the candidates: How people voted who attended the House Parties on Tuesday night.
The winner in that tally? Mr. Edwards, followed by Mr. Richardson and Mr. Obama.
It is, at least for junkies, an interesting distinction. For people with enough motivation to attend one of the house parties
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 10:20 AM
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3. THANK YOU, catchawave! I had time to update the OP. nt
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 10:48 AM
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4. You're welcome, since I did attend a house party
we were supposed to be the only ones allowed to vote, but moveon opened it to the public after the transcripts and videos went up. I don't have a problem with that, but it is an interesting distinction :hi:
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 11:53 AM
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5. Thanks for that info! nt
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MontanaMaven Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 03:04 PM
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6. Here's the numbers for the House Party votes
P.S. MoveOn members who watched the Town Hall at one of the parties voted differently from those who did not. Here are how the folks who attended the event ranked their choices:

Sen. John Edwards 25%
Gov. Bill Richardson 21%
Sen. Barack Obama 19%
Rep. Dennis Kucinich 15%
Sen. Joe Biden 10%
Sen. Hillary Clinton 7%
Sen. Chris Dodd 4%

Besides being "motivated" to go to a House Party, do you think discussing it afterwards with friends was a factor? Anybody have thoughts?

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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 04:32 PM
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8. Awesome!
Edited on Thu Apr-12-07 04:33 PM by larissa

Incredibly good numbers for Obama, Edwards, Richardson, and Kucinich! ~~
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 08:48 PM
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10. I'll add a couple of question too.
Who sent out invitations for the individual house parties? Were the candidates' campaign committees involved.?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 03:08 PM
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7. Anyone remember MoveOn's "primary" for the 2004 election?
Howard Dean finished first. Number Two wasn't John Kerry or John Edwards -- it was Dennis Kucinich.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 08:31 PM
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9. So Edwards has overtaken Kucinich since then. (nt)
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 04:10 PM
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13. MoveOn has a sterling record of presidential prognostication.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 01:04 AM
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11. I give no credance to this
MoveOn poll. It was slanted from the beginning to lean towards any candidate that either was against the Iraq conflict or had apoligized for their vote. Could have guessed HRC would be ranked low because she will not, nor should she apoligize for her vote....But the real poll will come next November when HRC wins the election and becomes the 44th President of the United States.....Oh and I must leave you Obama supporters with this thought:read this carefully...

Now think why it is you hate HRC so much because of her Iraq vote but you turn a blind eye to what Obama did in the Senate election in Connecticut in 2006. Ted Lamont was the anti-war candidate that won the primary against Lieberman. Guess who supported Lieberman? uh huh Obama. Guess who supported the democratic party candidate Lamont? uh HRC...So who is loyal to the democratic party in this instance? HRC.

Also, Obama came to Connecticut to campaign for Lieberman before the primary, very carefully timing his appearance to try to kill Ned Lamont’s antiwar primary challenge before it got off the ground.

Then in the general election, he( Obama ) refused to lift a finger for Lamont. For a guy like Obama who runs around bragging about his antiwar credentials, yet who then spent most of his first year in Congress absolutely silent on the war - his behavior in the Connecticut Senate race says a lot about him as the supposed post-partisan conviction candidate.

Think about it people and this has not even reared its ugly head in the campaign yet, but you get the feeling it will.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 03:16 PM
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12. I think doing it the way they did it this year.. with a townhall meeting.. was great.

Not sure why you're upset about it though. If you don't agree with the results, don't read them.

I think it's great that Governor Richardson did as well as he did with the house parties.
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