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Sanctified Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 03:10 AM
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Do you ever wish you were adopted?
Seriously, today I called my mom for mothers day and just heard something that made me truly sick. Our talk like usual turned to politics and she said that if Obama won the primary she would not be voting in the general election. Here I have a mother who has been a life long Democrat saying she will not vote for a Obama because she does not think it's right to have a black president, wtf?

I did not even know what to say, I wanted to go ape shit on her but it's mothers day so I just said, "uh-ha" and changed the subject.
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Rev. Mother Ramallo Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 03:24 AM
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1. Wow
Did she say it was because he's black?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 04:47 AM
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2. I would have confronted her
silence equals agreement
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Sadie4629 Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 05:21 AM
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3. I'd like a little more info
"if Obama won the primary she would not be voting in the general election"

Did she actually say it's because he is Black?? It's hard to tell from your OP. If that's what she said, that's surprising, coming from a life-long Dem. On the other hand, if she has disagreements with his policies, etc., it's perfectly acceptable for her to not want to vote for him.

And better she boycotts the general election than vote Repuke.
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Sanctified Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 11:15 AM
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11. My mom is a racist even though she will not admit it.
She hides behind the excuse that she grew up in a little town in Indiana and still calls people colored. She pretty much stated when I was younger that if I or any of my siblings ever married a black woman or man she would disown us.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 05:49 AM
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4. Sad as this is, we must face the fact that your mother is not alone.
The dems run a big political risk if Obama is the nominee.
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dave_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 06:49 AM
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6. Every party risks some voters rejecting whichever nominee
Edited on Mon May-14-07 06:51 AM by dave_p
Some won't vote for a woman, others wouldn't vote for a Mormon, etc.

If politics is to mean anything you have to fight for policies and fight for the candidate who'll advance them, even if that involves a bit of compromise.

But you can't ditch fundamental principle for votes. Maybe you'll find they're votes you're ultimately better off without.

Either way, policy will carry this election. It's not like the GOP's about to field Mr Charisma.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 12:42 PM
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13. Obviously the repugs want the Dems to chose the candidate with a high rejection potential.
That is why I think the repugs are flooding money into some of the dem
campaigns. A very smart move on Rove's part.

My .02 is that now in history is not the time to make race or gender a presidential issue. We are a country fighting for its life as a democracy, financially,legally and politically in big trouble.

We need to run the candidate who can win and can do the job.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 05:54 AM
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5. Hide her glasses. OK I could not help myself.
My mother would not vote for a Dem. yet she was one in how she thought. She would even go on about this great Dem. and I would ask. Will you vote for him? She would say no he is a Dem. I never could figure it out. Their are going to be people who say the same about a women. Watch that and you will feel just as crazy.
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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 07:33 AM
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7. It is her right
to vote or not to vote for whoever she wishes. She certainly will not be in the minority if she abstains on Election Day (what's turnout these days -- 35%?). Perhaps she told you this to challenge you to come up with a good reason to vote for him? If O.B. makes a statement that seems to go along with something she's strongly in favor of (or against something that she's against) you might send her a clip. If her single issue against him is race, maybe there's another single issue that will get her into the booth. Fortunately, there's months and months 'til Nov. '08.

If she's just yanking your chain, as relatives are sometimes known to do, your non-commital response was probably the best.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 07:35 AM
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8. Not to downplay how horrible it must be to have a racist mother,
but I've been trying to explain this to the board for quite some time.

I know several racists who are Democrats. Seriously. They're more blue-collar, union types who have always voted Democratic, but who would never vote for a woman or a black man.

There are more of them than this board would like to admit to, but, they're there.
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primative1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 07:39 AM
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9. My Mom ...
I can remember watching my Mom go off to work wearing a big "George Wallace" hat covered in campaign buttons ... It is a tough sight to get over but time will pass (hopefully).
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 07:41 AM
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10. Hey - I am adopted and my Mom
still supports Bush. I have completely stopped talking politics with her - she also listens to Fox all day long. I have come to an understanding, she's in her mid 70's, raised Southern Baptist and was a stay at home Mom. I love her despite her politics and realize that they years we have together are shorter than they used to be and I intend to make the best of it. She watches my 2 year old two days a week, helping my family save a bit on money on Day Care, she did that for my 6 yr old son as well. I am appreciate of her care and so happy that she's involved in my children's lives.

BTW: When I was in high school, late 70's , early 80's, I remember distinctly my Mother telling her Mom that I had a "colored" friend. My Mom is a product of her generation...
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 11:36 AM
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12. Adopted not really, hatched maybe
My father is a biggot, it disgusts me. Recently he moved and needed help moving his furniture. I asked a neighbor kid to come help the kid happens to be black.

My father made an ass out of himself the entire time making racist comments and just generaly putting this poor kid down.This is while this kid is helping him move! I just couldnt freaking believe it. Fortunately the kid just shrugged it off but I was completely embarassed and felt horrible for the poor kid. Of course my old man is also a die hard republican all the way to sipping the cool ade that is fox news and limbaugh and hanity.

My son is diabetic and when the stem cell bills were recently vetoed by bush, something that has a dirrect impact on his grandchild,
I called him and asked him how he felt about it. His answer was he heard that planned parrent hood was pushing the bill so they could make more money on abortions so he was glad they did it even though it would slow down a possible cure for his grandson. I was shocked to say the least. When i asked him if he really believed planned parenthood was trying to persuade girls to get abortions so they could make more money his reply was well I dont know but thats what i have heard.....

So yea sometimes I wish I had different parrents.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 12:51 PM
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14. This is why Obama and Clinton are getting PAC money that the
other Democratic candidates aren't getting. Those corporations want either of them to be the candidate because they are counting on people like your mother either staying away from the polls or voting for a Republican or third party.

I personally don't care for either of them because they are too Republican light for my liking. Even if by chance once of them did defeat the Republican candidate, it's still a good thing for those corporations they took the PAC money from because then they would be obligated to them.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 06:33 PM
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15. Um I dont think Obama is accepting PAC money
I could be wrong though.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 07:55 PM
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16. I'm just going through Open Secrets right now and I'm not
finished. Off hand he and Hillary seem top heavy in certain sectors that usually throw a lot of money to Republicans, but until I can find the time to sort through the actual donors and how much they have given to candidates both Democratic and Republican, I won't have a clear picture. Unfortunately, I have to stop for tonight.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 09:50 PM
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17. No worries
Think its great that you care enough to look and see.

Since i last posted i read a couple of blogger posts that say he doesnt take pac money but nothing official.
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