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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:25 PM
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I made a big mistake yesterday and listened to insHannity
on the radio. He was, obviously, talking about the Kerry thing. Now, I think I might hate Hannity worse than any of them but he did have some dems on. Now, it may be stupid to believe anything coming out of his face but I'm an open minded guy. So, he had a couple memes about the Clintons. Clearly the Clintons are still the bogeymen to the pugs but they were interesting. Both revolved around the meme that Hillary wants to run for Pres but can't this year. So the first meme was that Clark was sent in to bring Dean down. I can't entirely discount this because they would NOT be able to control Dean and I think they want control. The other meme was that, seeing Kerry with a real chance, the Clintons authorized Clark to make the "intern" comment in order to bring him down. Again, it all revolves around the idea that Frau Clinton wants to run in 2008. Alright, I know this is stupid and paranoid but someone please tell me why. Do the Clintons really have our best interests at heart or are they only in it for themselves. It would kind of explain the Gore endorsing Dean thing because there's supposedly some rift between the Gores and the Clintons.

Thanks and please don't flame.
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aldian159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:29 PM
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1. Hannity as the source
Gotta take it with a grain of salt.

As for Hilliary sabotaging 2004 to run in 2008, I refuse to think any Democrat would purposely tank an election, plus I think the general is way too classy to be anyone's tool.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:33 PM
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2. Hannity was breathless about it for three hours straight..
yesterday. He thinks he's on to something... again. :puke:
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:34 PM
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3. I think it is fair to say that some dems were worried
about Dean's electability, but Clark was in to win.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:45 PM
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7. Yes, correct.
Clark entered the race because he saw Dean as the clear frontrunner, and, Dean's outsider status and vigor aside, Clark didn't view Dean's GE chances as all that good due to a total absence of national security experience. Additionally, Clark entered the race because it seemed that Kerry's campaign was floundering and on the way out, and so the Dems needed a candidate *with* national security experience.


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flakey_foont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:36 PM
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4. Consider the source
if Hillary Clinton discovered a cure for AIDs and gave it away for free...Hannity would still be doing his anti-Hillary schtick.........
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:39 PM
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5. Now I Am Not The Brightest Bulb In The Circuit ...
but how would any member of the GOP talking head brigade know what the Clintons/Gores/Dean/Kerry be thinking?

Would any one tell Trash Limbaughski/Sink Hannityski anything about one is thinking? One listens to these people talk and they actually sound like they are in the know.

Excuuuse me but really. Those who are talking don't know. Those who know aren't talking.

Bush Lied, People Died
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pezcore64 Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:41 PM
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6. heh
Ive been thinking that for a while. I think alot of dean supporters saw clarks entry into the race as a ploy to stop dean by the clintons. *shrugs*. its been a theory for a long time. I didnt need Sean Hannity(BIG BABY JESUS) to tell me his theory ;)

i see this race as a defining point for our party, and its unfortunate the clintons have so much pull still and are able to keep the party in the way they see fit versus letting it evolve.

at any rate, turn 'Baby Jesus' off!!!

lol

GO DEAN!!!!
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ConservativeDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:49 PM
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8. Hillary can't run.... EVER
Her negatives are too high. There are a lot of lower-middle class swing voters who dislike her. Some of this is because the GOP smear machine. But most of it is because she is a "strong woman", and in many people's minds an emblem for societal changes that they are not comfortable with.

Hillary is not stupid. She won't run for an office she can't win.

- C.D.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:50 PM
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9. My Mom, the Democratic Hillary-Hater says....
My Mom, the Democratic Hillary-Hater says that the Clintons were behind the kneecapping of Clark's campaign, as well. The Clinton goal is 4 more years of Bush so that the country would vote-in just about any Democrat -- which is pretty much what it would take for her to win the Presidency.

I love her, but am becoming concerned about the quality of water purification processing in my hometown.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 02:39 PM
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10. I thik too many people are believing
in RNC talking points or memes. Think for yourself guys!
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batman Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 02:54 PM
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11. Makes ya wonder. Hilary would run agains Jeb in 08 wouldn't she?
I had heard that the DLC was involved in covert actions to take out Dean? I dont doubt that at all. Not sure on the Clinton involvement though?
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 03:02 PM
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13. The anti-Dean actions of the DLC and corporate press
weren't exacly "covert"
drop the "c"
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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 02:58 PM
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12. the clintons have and always will be
first and foremost concerned with their power.
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