Dennis Kucinich First on ABC poll, ABC fails to mention him anywhere

[ElsewheresDaughter]

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Here's the poll http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Decision2008/popup?id=3493427



Kucinich moving up in Democratic Presidential ‘horse race’

Winning handily in ABC News on-line poll following Sunday debate
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Monday, August 20, 2007

DES MOINES, IA – If the quest for the Democratic nomination for President is a long-distance horse race, Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich, the self-described longshot Seabiscuit of the field, is steadily moving up on the front-runners.


In fact, as of this morning, Kucinich was winning the online ABC News poll following yesterday’s Democratic Presidential Forum in Des Moines, IA. In answer to ABC’s question “Who do you think won the Democratic debate,” Kucinich received more than 10,000 on-line votes. U.S. Senator Barack Obama was second with more than 8,000; U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton was third with more than 5,000; U.S. Senator Joe Biden was fourth with about 3,200; and former Senator John Edwards was next with about 3,000. About 35,000 votes had been cast by 11 a.m. today.

Admittedly, the poll was unscientific, but it reflects a growing trend in which the Congressman has been highly rated – second or third in most cases – during the last several Democratic Presidential forums.

Following the HRC/LOGO presidential forum last week, Kucinich came in second (25%) behind Obama (46%) in an on-line poll among forum viewers. Clinton came in third with 14%, and Edwards scored only 5%.

Also last week, the candidates appeared at an AFL-CIO Democratic Presidential forum in Chicago that was televised on MSNBC. Following the debate, the network asked the on-line question: “Which Democrat will best represent labor?” Obama came in first with 24%. Kucinich and Edwards were tied at 22%. Clinton came in fourth at 17%.


At a PBS-televised forum at Howard University, some political analysts, notably Roger Simon of “Politico,” rated Kucinich third behind Clinton and Obama.


And, in an ongoing “blind taste test” Internet poll in which respondents identify and rank the issues that are important to them, without knowing in advance where the candidates stand on those issues, Kucinich has been the runaway winner “on the issues” for the last several weeks.


The ABC results were especially encouraging to the Kucinich campaign because the Congressman was not even asked a question until 35 minutes into the forum and received the least time on camera of any of the leading candidates.

At one point, in answer to a question about the role of prayer in the candidates’ lives, Kucinich quipped to moderator George Stephanopoulos, “George, I’ve been standing up here for 45 minutes praying that you would ask me a question.”

Senior Kucinich campaign officials see the growing momentum as a sign that Kucinich’s key messages – withdrawal from Iraq, national not-for-profit health care, cancellation of job-killing foreign trade agreements, and expanded educational programs from early childhood through college – have begun resonating with American voters.


“The more people see the Congressman and hear what he has to say, the more impressed they are with him,” the campaign said in a statement this morning. “He was the only Democrat who voted against the war before it began, the only one with legislation for a truly universal national health care plan, and the only one with the courage to cancel the North American Free Trade Agreement and withdraw from the World Trade Organization. He was right when it counted, and he’s been right along. People are beginning to notice.”


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Contacts:

National Campaign HQ: Andy Juniewicz, [phone], [e-mail]

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

1. Oh, God.

Ya, there's a real measure of success. An online poll. :crazy:

[mikelgb]

6. he got over 10000 votes

I did not vote in this poll

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

20. That's irrelevant.

It's not a scientific poll. It means nothing.

[venable]

33. putting aside electability, any Dem who doesn't support Dennis' positions

is not my cup of tea.

In case anyone is interested.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

36. Who gives a crap about his positions?

What has he actually done to achieve anything on any of his positions? Holding a position doesn't mean squat unless you can deliver on it.

[rucky]

2. He won the poll by alot!

they won't be able to ignore him for too much longer.

[rinsd]

3. So Kucinich supporters hit the online polls post debate.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

4. i doubt that is what happened at all..... have a pleasent day

[rinsd]

9. Yeah ok.

:eyes:

These are about half of the links on Kucinich's official websites blogs encouraging people to vote on the poll.

http://action.dennis4president.com/blog/view/id_636/

http://action.dennis4president.com/blog/view/id_638/

http://action.dennis4president.com/blog/view/id_645/

http://action.dennis4president.com/blog/view/id_647/

http://action.dennis4president.com/blog/view/id_652/

[BREMPRO]

16. obviously his supporters are skewing the poll

I voted and looked at it during and right after the debate (two different polls - one said "who is winning the debate, the other "who won the debate) and both had Obama ahead with Hillary a close second= Kusinich had about a third of the votes that Obama and Hillary had- Internet polls can be easily manipulated.

[rog]

19. Only 2 of the 5 links you provided encouraged people to vote.

Out of the five links you posted to illustrate that there was some huge movement at the Kucinich blog to skew the results, only two gave the website address and encouraged people to vote. The other three were just remarking, with some amazement, how well DK seemed to be doing.

Yes, I know internet polls are easily skewed, but I also believe in a modest amount of accuracy in reporting.

.rog.

[eridani]

30. People who pay attention to issues skew online polls

Unfortunately, most people don't really give a shit, and will pick candidates based on vague impressions garnered from the media.

[Laughing Mirror]

5. The Ruling Class only allows us to chose from the 2 or 3 candidates it has in its pocket

I did not see the debate, so I must ask. Why isn't there equal time for all candidates?

[DemKR]

7. power to the people!!!

[Laughing Mirror]

15. Ain't no power like the power of the people

And the power of the people is we.

[MADem]

8. ABC is a GOP enterprise. For whatever that's worth. They're slightly to the right of Attila the Hun

[SteelPenguin]

10. "Admittedly, the poll was unscientific, but..."

No. There are no buts. Open online polls are unscientific, ie they are meaningless. Giving them any kind of actual credence is ridiculous.

[Desertrose]

11. K&R for Dennis

C'mon...this is not the first time this has happened, but the MSM still won't give him equal time.

They are afraid too many people will hear DK & jump on the bandwagon....and where will that leave the "chosen one(s)"?

RD

[slipslidingaway]

12. Maybe ABC can include a picture of Dennis on this page along

with the other candidates???

The Iowa Debates -- Tune In and Talk Back

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Decision2008/story?id=3478895

[Dhalgren]

13. I think that Kucinich is really beginning to register with people.

Two things that make him stand out from the other Democrats - his intelligent grasp of all of the issues and his honesty. He has fully developed plans and policies for every issue before the American people; he doesn't have to "study" the issues (he's already done that), he doesn't have to worry about how "difficult" these issues are (doing the right thing makes a lot of hard things easy) and he doesn't have to worry about how to say things so as not to upset his money controllers (he doesn't have any, except American voters) and he doesn't have to worry about keeping his stories straight (he just tells the truth).

Kucinich for President - because we want our Constitution back and he is the only one who even talks about it...

[paparush]

14. He's a threat to the Establishment...in the Democratic Machine

Expect him to be Howard Dean'd any minute now...

[goodhue]

17. go, dennis, go

[jsamuel]

18. that poll has been totally freeped

[cobalt1999]

21. You Kucinich supporters will grasp at any straw

An online poll?

Is it a scientific poll? NO.
Therefore, does it mean anything at all? NO. (well, it does prove that the 3% Kucinich supporters are very passionate, but everyone here already knows that).

When he runs a campaign that attracts more than 3% of the democratic vote, maybe he'll get some attention.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

22. yes we believe in him....thanks for the kick

[cobalt1999]

24. ahh, whatever makes you feel good.

:hi:

Remember though, don't be so disappointed when he doesn't break the top 4 in any primary or gain more than a few percentage points that you don't vote for the eventual democratic nominee. Sometimes I worry about you Kucinich supporters losing touch with reality. Until then, take whatever celebration you can get.

[frylock]

26. so long as you aren't disappointed with the status quo..

once one of the "top tier" candidates receives the nom.

[ChipperbackDemocrat]

31. Here's reality

My grandfather always told me the following:

IF YOU DON'T FIGHT FOR WHAT YOU WANT, YOU DESERVE WHAT YOU GET.

Here's what I want.

I want a universal single-payer health care system built on a model of prevention and wellness, similar to the systems much of western Europe have.

I want this ridiculous adventure in Iraq ended as soon as logistically possible. I also want a return to an American foreign policy based on our values and use of diplomacy.


I want a recommittment to peace as part of our foreign policy. I want an America that leads through cooperation and show true strength.



I want a system that doesn't put riches for the few on the backs of the many...and many of us are workaday Joes and Janes just trying to get a piece of the pie.

I want a nation for the 21st century. Sustainable in regard to enviroment and energy. Inclusive, innovative and committed when it comes to educating our children. Strong in protecting all Americans under the law.

The reality is, we can have these things...But its going to require a change in our thinking. Dennis Kucinich has done the best job of articulating this change in my mind and has the best plan to make it happen. In my opinion, he's the only candidate in either party who is discussing what kind of country we will have in 2012, 2015, 2020, 2030 and so on.

I don't knock any other Democratic candidates. I support them all, and should any one of them receive the nomination, they'll have to full opportunity to earn my vote and most likely will earn it.

But to get what I really want, there's only one guy..and I've each one-teach one since he ran in 2004. Its not about the suit or the haircut. Its not about him being 5'6" and looks like and extra in Lord of the Rings.. Its about who wants to build this United States of America that I will leave as I grow old and as my children grow up.

Dennis Kucinich is the only person I'm seeing who really wants to have the conversation to start with, let alone have the plans to back it up.

I hear a lot about Dennis around here.
TALKING POINT #1 "He only polls 3%" -- There's a cure for that #1..and I'm part of that cure. I'm pushing Dennis at my Town Committee meeting, out on the street, amongst my friends and family. Each one-Teach one.

TALKING POINT #2 "I agree with him, but the guy has no chance...He's unelectable" -- There's a cure for that #2, GET INVOLVED http://www.kucinich.us

TALKING POINT #3 "The Mainstream Media will freeze him out" -- There's a cure for that #3 1. REALIZE THAT YOU KNEW THIS JOB WAS GOING TO BE DANGEROUS WHEN YOU TOOK IT! (That's a message to all Kucinich supporters upset about his airtime -- we don't have time to whine) 2. We have to be the media. -- Underground media, internet, word of mouth 3. GO TO "THERE'S A CURE FOR THAT #2" AND DO IT!

To supporters of other candidates: Good Luck and good hunting! Look forward to seeing you on the trail. Let's make a deal. I won't slag your candidate, don't slag mine.

To undecideds: Kick everybody's tires...including my boy's..I think is you give Dennis Kucinich and honest run, I think you'll like what you see.

To Kucinich supporters: The big media boys and the Washington Pros aren't picking us. We know that, so stop saying it. We don't have time to whine. We have to be about the work we need to do. Dennis isn't the only Seabiscuit. We have to run the race right with him.

To all Democrats: Before you flame a supporter of any candidate. Remember who the REAL adversary is. The architects of the most corrosive agenda in American History.

[Desertrose]

32. Kucinich supporters losing touch with reality...now thats a good one.

I just love the ones who are the determiners of *reality*.

Thats just too too funny.

DR

PS. Here's anFYI for ya... if you are so worried about our votes, then maybe ya oughta think twice about insulting us every 2 seconds.

Just sayin'

[frylock]

25. perhaps if he garnered 3% of the airtime the other candidates receive..

he would attract more than 3% of the vote. The MSM has already decided who is electable and who isn't, and the lemmings here are more than happy to follow along.

[penguin7]

23. Manipulated or not

Kucinich is clearly gaining an internet following.

[AtomicKitten]

27. If the MSM ignores him, he fails to exist.

At least in their little world.

[Rhiannon12866]

28. Of course they fail to mention him. Nobody ever does...

After his spectacular performance in the AFL-CIO debate, all the pundits did was argue whether Barak Obama or Hillary Clinton "won." Sen. Clinton was pretty good, IMO, but nothing compared to Dennis, and I felt that Obama gave the weakest performance of all the candidates there. He really didn't say much of anything.:shrug:

It really irks me that Dennis is always overlooked. He's been my candidate since 2003, speaks out, unlike the others who choose to play it safe, refusing to take a stand on anything and telling the public what they think they want to hear. Dennis (along with John Conyers) has to be the hardest working member of the House and I'm hardly surprised that he'd win any poll, as long as people have heard of him!:grr:

[bvar22]

29. You didn't get the MEMO.

It has already been decided.

Corporate funded Hillary will run against the Corporate funded Republican.

The Corporate Owned BIG MEDIA will do as they are told.

A Corporate friendly president will be elected to advance the Corporate bottom line.

Representation for people who Work for a Living is "Off the Table", much like impeachment, withdrawal from Iraq, or Election Reform.



The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

[askantik]

34. For all you whiny babies

Why do you moan and groan that Kucinich is pulling ahead? If indeed it's "just a poll," please remember that it's "just polls" that show Hillary leading the candidates.

Furthermore, someone pointed out that us Kucinich supporters probably skewed the polls. Well, let's see... at the time of my writing this (7:45 PM CST on 8/20/2007), Dennis Kucinich is at 12,441 votes and Obama (the second closest) is at 8,924 votes. That means Kucinich is 3,517 votes ahead of Obama. Now, on Kucinich's Action Center (one of the main hubs on his webpage for Internet campaigning where someone listed 5 blogs asking people to vote) there are only 2,676 members. So even if NONE of these members voted, Kucinich would still be ahead. Any Kucinich supporters who didn't read the blogs on the Action Center obviously didn't "skew" the poll.

But anyhow, it's also highly unlikely that EVERYONE on the Action Center voted, so technically there could be even more Kucinich supporters to further "skew" the poll. Please don't try to "diss" Kucinich or his supporters just because his campaign is finally starting to catch up a little. Now you don't have the excuse of only voting for one of the big 3 just because they have the highest "electability." Kucinich, the true people's candidate, the one with the most integrity, honesty, and spot-on answers (not dancing around questions and issues), is now becoming a key part of the debates and the race. Please consider supporting him. Seriously.

SEABISCUIT in 2008!

[dweller]

35. welcome to DU askantik !

:hi:

what you've said above makes much sense, good luck convincing the naysayers that want DK dismissed.

but keep up the good word.

peace
dp

[MonkeyFunk]

38. Because there are real polls

and online polls. Real polls are meaningful. Online polls are not.

[mnhtnbb]

37. I haven't watched a debate since you-tube. These polls mean nothing

[penguin7]

39. The comments coming into ABC mean something

Read the comments coming into ABC. Dennis has passionate support. I cannot believe that this will not translate into votes.