Cornyn's Senate Resolution Condemning MoveOn Passes Overwhelmingly, with Lots of Dems

[flpoljunkie]

Reso Condemning MoveOn Passes Overwhelmingly, With Lots Of Dems

By Greg Sargent - September 20, 2007, 1:00PM

The GOP-introduced resolution condemning MoveOn just passed by a huge margin, 72-25. Roughly half the Democrats in the Senate supported it.

A couple of the more interesting votes: Jim Webb, who just yesterday was a Netroots hero, voted for it, even though the last thing he needs as a military guy is cover on something like this.

Meanwhile, Hillary -- who's been under assault by Rudy for refusing to condemn MoveOn but who's also locked in a tough Dem primary -- stood her ground and voted No.

We'll have a list of Dems who backed this thing and Dems who voted against it in a bit. Stay tuned.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/09/reso_condemning_moveon_passes_overwhelmingly_with_lots_of_dems.php

[redqueen]

1. Fucksake.

:puke:

[flpoljunkie]

3. And, Barbara Boxer's amendment failed 51-45!

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 1st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate

Vote Summary
Question: On the Amendment (Boxer Amdt. No. 2947 )
Vote Number: 343 Vote Date: September 20, 2007, 11:58 AM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Amendment Rejected

Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 2947 to S.Amdt. 2011 to H.R. 1585 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008)
Statement of Purpose: To reaffirm strong support for all the men and women of the United States Armed Forces and to strongly condemn attacks on the honor, integrity, and patriotism of any individual who is serving or has served honorably in the United States Armed Forces, by any person or organization.

Vote Summary YEAs 51
NAYs 46
Not Voting 3

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00343

[damntexdem]

21. It moved me on -- to donate again to MoveOn.

http://pol.moveon.org/fightback/o.pl?id=11267-1609292-91E57l&t=3

[zulchzulu]

2. Tackling the issues this country really needs at this time

Everything is going down the sh*tter all at the same time and the Constitution is being shredded, but it certainly is time to go after some non-profit that dares to make an ad that doesn't suck up to the Chimpministration.

Time to give MoveOn some money. Let's thank the Repugs and those who voted for this for the free advertising!

https://pol.moveon.org/donate/donate.html

[dmosh42]

4. How easily our Dems in the Senate fold up under Repub pressure....

But on Dem bills, Repubs are like granite. We have a bunch of weasels in there!

[sampsonblk]

5. That's fucking ridiculous!

[AndyA]

6. And another DUer just this morning was telling me how wonderful Harry Reid is.

And yet, he allows a monstrosity like this to get on the agenda.

Way to go, Harry. The GOP couldn't ask for a better leader. :thumbsdown:

[Mass]

9. He could not block it without 40 Dems against it. They did not have the vote...

May be if we had made clear to them that it was important, they would have heard.

BTW, Reid voted NO, http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00344

[AndyA]

10. Excuses, excuses. As long as people are willing to make excuses for them,

there's no reason for them to change.

Reid is a disgrace, and the public apparently has figured it out. Look for Congress 11% approval ratings to hit the single digits any day now.

[Mass]

12. I do not like Reid anymore than you, but as long as the netroots will not focus

on what matters, do not expect they will listen.

Where was the netroots effort on this bill? On habeas corpus? ... Nowhere. Some people tried, but the big focus was somewhere else.

[redqueen]

15. How does that even make sense?

The dems came out great for Habeas...

:wtf:

[Mass]

17. They could have forced the Dems to have a cloture vote so that it was clear the GOP was refusing it

rather than accepting a 60 vote bill!

[redqueen]

18. Who can force the Dems to do ANYTHING?

You're dreamin... they do what they like.

[flpoljunkie]

16. There apparently was no procedural way to block Cornyn's amendment.

[Mass]

7. I could have predicted that yesterday. People are unable to make choices.

How many threads calling for action on Habeas Corpus, this issue, or a couple other ones yesterday? As soon as somebody was posting one, it was dropping like lead.

People cant multiplex, and they ignore what is important in order to rant and rant!

[redqueen]

14. What?

So it's the voters' fault that dems bow down to repukes over this bullshit?

[AtomicKitten]

8. Aaaarrgggghhhhhh!!!

[mohc]

11. Here comes the rage again

I am having flashbacks to the FISA vote. Whose support are they going after exactly? I realize that Republicans in Congress are well to the right of Republican voters, but do Democrats in Congress think that by staking some middle ground the Republican voters will suddenly switch sides? Nothing, absolutely nothing, that the Republicans sponsor should get cloture until a vote on withdrawal does.

[flpoljunkie]

13. The very liberal Patrick Leahy of Vermont voted for Cornyn's amendment, plus many red state Dems.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00344

[sinkingfeeling]

19. It does not matter. A resolution is just 'fluff' anyway. I will be sure to ask my Senators if

they've ever even read the Bill of Rights though.

[flpoljunkie]

20. It was definitely political theatre--brought to you by the Rethugs and a stupid MoveOn ad--Bush

ought to have been their first target--not their last!

http://pol.moveon.org/petraeus.html

http://pol.moveon.org/giuliani/

http://pol.moveon.org/betrayaloftrust/

[khein]

22. Democrats who voted for the condemnation resolution.

I'm very upset with the Democratic Senators who voted for this resolution. I'm a member of MoveOn, didn't particularly like the add, but am appalled by the Senate vote. Even with a majority, our lame-duck Democrat/Repugnocrat Senators somehow got forced to denounce the add, while not even having the grit to add the denouncement of the Republican attack adds to it... they continue to be out-maneuvered and out-witted on their way to being out-of-office.

I'm from Montana, I know that Senator Tester would not currently be a Senator without the hard work (and Money) provided by Move-On minded individuals in this State. That support, and support for Senator Baucus (who is up for re-election in '08), has taken a serious hit. The contributions that I'd planned to his campaign will now be going to other candidates, and I will be vocal in encouraging others to act the same way. They've bitten the hand that worked hard to get them elected.

Here's a list of the Democrats (or should I say Repugnocrats) who voted for the resolution:

Baucus
Bayh
Cardin
Carper
Casey
Conrad
Dorgan
Feinstein
Johnson
Klobuchar
Kohl
Landrieu
Leahy
Lieberman
Lincoln
McCaskill
Mikulski
Bill Nelson
Ben Nelson
Pryor
Salazar
Tester
Webb