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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:43 AM
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Great article explaining who's running in Ron Paul circles
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 11:48 AM by Bleachers7
http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/11/04/ron-paul-report-who-supports-him-and-why-is-november-5th-important

My observation of the make-up of Ron Paul supporters so far:

1) True intellectuals who may have actually read the Constitution and want to at least send a message about that
2) Successful businesspeople between 25-45 who would rather save for retirement than pay for more government
3) Expats, Americans living in other countries whom Congress apparently believes can still be regulated and ruled over
4) Military, especially those who may have been wounded or almost killed defending the Constitution
5) Males who still have a pair and who at least want to send a message about men's rights
6) Women who respect males who still have a pair
7) Women who really think for themselves and not for the sisterhood

That would be about 3% total of the US population.

<snip>

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2007/11/04/ron-paul-report-who-supports-him-and-why-is-november-5th-important

And another: http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/11/ron_pauls_money_bomb_records_a.html

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That so many people have invested so much in someone who stands such little apparent chance of winning his party’s presidential nomination, let alone the White House, speaks volumes about alienation in modern American politics.

It is the same alienation that once handed H. Ross Perot close to 20 percent of the presidential vote. It is the same alienation that handed Ralph Nader just enough of the vote to deny Democrat Al Gore an Electoral College victory to accompany his popular-vote majority.

It is people voting for someone other than the establishment, odds be damned.
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http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/11/ron_pauls_money_bomb_records_a.html
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:48 AM
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1. Consider the source
and consider Paul's views on government, regulation of industry, and the way the economy functions.

In your guts, you know he's nuts.

He doesn't HAVE nuts so much as he IS nuts.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:55 AM
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2. "In your guts, you know he's nuts."
:spray:

Oh, you have to file that away for use whoever the GOP picks as its nominee!

Seriously, it describes just about all of 'em. And talk about a great bumper-sticker/soundbite... !!!

:rofl:
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:08 PM
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5. It's a 43-year old slogan.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:53 PM
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10. I'm old, but foreign ...
but you know, I may remember hearing that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_1964
Johnson positioned himself as a moderate, and succeeded in portraying Goldwater as an extremist. Goldwater had a habit of making blunt statements about war, nuclear weapons, and economics that could be turned against him. Most famously, the Johnson campaign broadcast a television commercial on September 7 dubbed the “Daisy Girl” ad, which featured a little girl picking petals from a daisy in a field, counting the petals, which then segues into a launch countdown and a nuclear explosion. The ads were in response to Goldwater's advocacy of “tactical” nuclear weapons use in Vietnam. Another Johnson ad, “Confessions of a Republican”, tied Goldwater to the Ku Klux Klan. Voters increasingly viewed Goldwater as a right wing fringe candidate—his slogan “In your heart, you know he's right” was successfully parodied by the Johnson campaign into “In your guts, you know he's nuts,” or “In your heart, you know he might.” (some cynics wore buttons saying "Even Johnson is better than Goldwater!")

It is to be hoped that Democrats this time around won't have to go back to that last slogan. ;)

But there's no harm in portraying the Republican as an extremist, whichever one it ends up being. Truth in advertising.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 05:05 PM
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18. Well, it worked for Goldwater
so of course it'll work for any of those pudgy lunatics.

Goldwater was nearly sane compared to that bunch.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:07 PM
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4. Oh, that has GOT to hit CafePress when the (R) is selected.
:rofl:
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:07 PM
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3. From what I have witnessed
He has a foothold in the neo-nazi world, the military and evangelicals. All for different reasons.

The neo-nazis like his libertarian stance and he had made rather racist comments some years back that they rally around.

The military support suprised me at first, but I believe the article is spot on. War for oil isn't why these people signed up.

Evangelicals only because they want another theocracy and somehow think that an anti-government candidate will be the one to do it.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:13 PM
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6. And I Don't Think They're ALL That Intellectual!! The May Think
macho, but I've always had problems with these "certain" types of MACHO!!
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:18 PM
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7. whatever's going on, he raised 3.5 million dollars online yesterday
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:21 PM
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8. Let's break down that list
"1) True intellectuals who may have actually read the Constitution and want to at least send a message about that"
Ummm....No....Paul is a Libertarian, who want to dismantle most of the government said Constitution calls for. TRUE intellectuals see that. PSEUDO intellectuals miss that.

"2) Successful businesspeople between 25-45 who would rather save for retirement than pay for more government"
Good luck to them, having a comfy retirement, with no Police, Firefighters, Internet, Roads, etc. Oh, wait....that's right...the private sector will magically provide all those services for a mere fraction of the current cost! :sarcasm:

"3) Expats, Americans living in other countries whom Congress apparently believes can still be regulated and ruled over"
Congress does jackshit with these folks except collect taxes; and not many of those.

"4) Military, especially those who may have been wounded or almost killed defending the Constitution"
Libertarians would abolish the military.

"5) Males who still have a pair and who at least want to send a message about men's rights"
I am male, have a pair, all the rights I need, and support women's rights.

"6) Women who respect males who still have a pair"
Ahh. Battered women for Paul. There's a niche constituency.

"7) Women who really think for themselves and not for the sisterhood"
Women who really think for themselves frequently appreciate what that sisterhood gave them: the right to vote, to work, to be free of office rape, etc.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:33 PM
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9. Nicely done
:rofl:
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:59 PM
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12. only one thing to add

"3) Expats, Americans living in other countries whom Congress apparently believes can still be regulated and ruled over"
Congress does jackshit with these folks except collect taxes; and not many of those.


It's WHO, for the love of mike. "Americans ... WHO ... can still be regulated".

So the person who wrote it obviously isn't in category one himself. (I'll go out on a limb and assume that the person who wrote it is a man.) Maybe he's in category 2, and thinks it's just fine if everybody grows up as illiterate as he is because there are no schools.

But yeah, pseudo would be about the right modification.

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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:02 PM
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13. Since I used the word "jackshit" in my post
...I didn't feel like correcting his grammar. Nice catch on your part!
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:37 PM
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15. yeah, but you used it correctly in a sentence

;)
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:57 PM
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16. Thanks!
:toast:
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 02:54 PM
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17. add "one issue voters"
specifically anti-war voters who are as blind as the "Pro-Life one issue voter" than any single issue is important enough to absorb all the other negatives from that candidate
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:55 PM
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11. What a bunch of rightwing crap. Barf. n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:19 PM
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14. That may be right about the men...
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 01:24 PM by polichick
But imo women for Ron Paul are fools.

(On second thought, it's not even right for the men ~ Ron Paul supporters online seem scared and reactionary.)
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