NBC/WSJ Poll: Hillary's Numbers Unchanged Despite Debate Skirmishes

[Herman Munster]

Looks like rasmussen may be an outlier. Gallup and NBC News polls out today show Hillary with very strong leads and no ill effects from the debate.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/11/nbcwsj_poll_hil.html

Hillary Clinton holds a double-digit lead nationally over Barack Obama, according to a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released tonight.

Hillary 47%
Obama 25%
John Edwards 11%

But the poll shows that HRC would be in a statistical dead heat in a hypothetical contest with Rudy Giuliani, leading 46% to 45%.

The poll — which surveyed 1,509 adults from Nov. 1-5 and which has an overall margin of error of plus-minus 2.5 percentage points — comes in the wake of the Drexel U. debate. HRC, of course, is still playing defense about her hedged answer on driver's licenses for illegal immigrants. Eight days later she's fighting her opponents' charges that the exchange is evidence of an evasiveness, of a disingenuousness that has permeated her public career.

Still, even with that pummeling, she maintains a strong national lead that hasn't slipped since NBC/WSJ's last poll in September.

[CyberPieHole]

1. Polls mean nothing this early in the race...

as a matter of fact it is actually preferable to be at the bottom of the polls.:sarcasm:

[Clintonista2]

10. Being at the bottom means the MSM fears you!

:crazy:

[CyberPieHole]

11. Mike Gravel's got 'em where he wants them....

I don't know where that is, but he's got 'em there.:evilgrin:

[wiley]

13. A truly refreshing perspective!

[maximusveritas]

2. Not sure how comparing polls taken 2 months apart tells you anything about the debate impact

You could say the poll shows the race unchanged from 2 months ago, but to try and say it says anything about the debate is just wrong.

[ClarkUSA]

6. dupe

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3695717

[laconicsax]

8. It says that no one is paying attention

You could say the poll shows the race unchanged from a year ago.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21676399/

No one's paying attention. Whoever gets the most on-air mention gets the highest poll numbers.

[avrdream]

16. Actually, not even the on-air mentions now are important.

Give it another month and it may make a difference in Iowa.

Time will totally tell.

[Joe the Revelator]

3. I'll take the polls in NH and Iowa over a national poll any day of the week....

Those are not Outliers.

[DeepModem Mom]

4. kick

[Union Thug]

5. A dead heat with Giuliani?

If that's the best she can do, we're in deep trouble. Rudy is such a transparent fraud that it surprises me to see him polling so well. Depressing.

[IndianaGreen]

9. Hillary was 7 points ahead of Rudy on an earlier poll by same pollster

and her many different explanations she keeps giving to the media are providing a treasure trove of videos to be played by her opponents.

[elizm]

12. Rudy is polling so well now...

Because the media has annointed Hillary and the polls show people will vote for Rudy before they will vote for Hillary in the general. Of course, most of us have known that all along.

[laconicsax]

7. If you take a look at poll results spanning back over a year,

you might notice that Clinton's numbers are essentially the same as they were in April of 2006.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21676399/

April 2006
If the 2008 election were held today and the choices were HRC and McCain, who would you vote for:
McCain: 42
HRC: 37%
-included results from November 2005 with these numbers:
HRC: 44
McCain: 42

Same question December 2006
McCain over Clinton 47-43

Democratic Primary question December 2006:
Clinton: 35
Edwards: 18
Obama: 15
Kerry: 12

Same question March 2007:
Clinton: 40
Obama: 28
Edwards: 15
etc.


April 2007:
Clinton: 36
Obama: 31
Edwards: 20
etc.

June 2007:
Clinton: 39
Obama: 25
Edwards: 15
etc.

August 2007:
Clinton: 43
Obama: 22
Edwards: 13
etc.

September 2007
Clinton: 44
Obama: 23
Edwards: 16
etc.

I'd bet money that if they had asked the question: Which of the following Democratic presidential candidates are you aware of? The numbers would look like this:

Clinton: 40
Obama: 20
Edwards: 15
MoE: +/- 3%

[Chomskyite]

14. Here's why

Nobody but us is watching these debates. This country is still very very asleep, despite the rage we all feel.

[oasis]

15. kick