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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 12:56 AM
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Even E. Howard Hunt's son thinks he was one of the Dealy Plaza tramps
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 12:59 AM by antiimperialist
Hunt's son is referring to these pictures of the tramps found in Dallas the day of JFK's shooting in 1963 comparing E. Howard Hunt with one of the tramps:





While reading a biography of David Atlee Phillips, I bumped into a link to Howard Hunt's confession of his involvement in the JFK assassination, which appeared in Rolling Stone Magazine in May 2007, Howard Hunt's son says,

"Around 1975, I was in a phone booth in Maryland somewhere, when I saw a poster on a telephone pole about who killed JFK, and it had a picture of the three tramps. I saw that picture and I fucking -- like a cartoon character, my jaw dropped, my eyes popped out of my head, and smoke came out of my ears. It looks like my dad. There's nobody that has all those same facial features. People say it's not him. He's said it's not him. But I'm his son, and I've got a gut feeling."

He chews his sandwich. "And then, like an epiphany, I remember '63, and my dad being gone, and my mom telling me that he was on a business trip to Dallas. I've tried to convince myself that's some kind of false memory, that I'm just nuts, that it's something I heard years later. But, I mean, his alibi for that day is that he was at home with his family. I remember I was in the fifth grade. We were at recess. I was playing on the merry-go-round. We were called in and told to go home, because the president had been killed. And I remember going home. But I don't remember my dad being there. I have no recollection of him being there. And then he has this whole thing about shopping for Chinese food with my mother that day, so that they could cook a meal together." His father testified to this, in court, on more than one occasion, saying that he and his wife often cooked meals together.

St. John pauses and leans forward. "Well," he says, "I can tell you that's just the biggest load of crap in the fucking world. He was always looking at things like he was writing a novel; everything had to be just so glamorous and so exciting. He couldn't even be bothered with his children. That's not glamorous. James Bond doesn't have children. So my dad in the kitchen? Chopping vegetables with his wife? I'm so sorry, but that would never happen. Ever. That fucker never did jack-squat like that. Ever."


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13893143/the_last_confessions_of_e_howard_hunt/5
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:08 AM
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1. Thanks for this!
On my way to read the rest. Appreciate it!
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 01:26 AM
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2. It's amazing the way the media totally ignored this confession
It strongly suggests Kennedy was murdered by a conspiracy inside our own government.

I'm on the fence about the tramp pics, though. I've read four different arguments over "who"
they are and every time I look at those individual pictures, I have to admit they could be them,
also. It's projection, of course, though I think Hunt's admission does make him more likely.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 03:47 AM
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6. It would be interesting to line up the other potential tramp pics with Hunt's and
compare them side by side to the tramp pic.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 02:04 AM
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3. This reads like a movie treatment!!!!
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 02:04 AM by MADem
They sure don't make White House bad guys the way they used to. Today you've got flabby-faced half-men like Karl Rove, with weakling names like "Scooter" Libby, blandly hacking their way through the constraints of the U.S. Constitution, while back then, in addition to Hunt, you had out-and-out thugs like G. Gordon Liddy, his Watergate co-conspirator and Nixon's dirty-tricks chief, who would hold his own hand over an open flame to prove what a real tough guy he was. It all seems a little nutty now, but in 1972 it was serious business. These guys meant to take the powers of the presidency and run amok. Hunt, an ex-CIA man who loved operating in the shadows and joined Nixon's Special Investigations Unit (a.k.a. "the Plumbers") as a $100-a-day consultant in 1971, specialized in political sabotage. Among his first assignments: forging cables linking the Kennedy administration to the assassination of South Vietnam's president. After that, he began sniffing around Ted Kennedy's dirty laundry, to see what he could dig up there. Being a former CIA man, he had no problem contemplating the use of firebombs and once thought about slathering LSD on the steering wheel of an unfriendly newspaperman's car, hoping it would leach into his skin and cause a fatal accident. But of all his various plots and subterfuges, in the end, only one of them mattered: the failed burglary at the Watergate Hotel, in Washington, D.C., in the spring of 1972.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:42 AM
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7. In 1972, we thought Liddy was as nutty as we do today.
Republicans, however, live by a different standard of sane.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 03:01 AM
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4. K&R. (nt)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 03:44 AM
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5. I've heard St. John Hunt (he goes by "Saint") in several interviews AND I've heard the
"deathbed" tape of E. Howard Hunt. Riveting and I, too, was surprised this didn't get more coverage.

Part of the problem with the Kennedy assassination is that there have been so many theories nobody pays attention anymore. I think if JFK rose from the dead and pointed out who the culprits were people would STILL be leery.

Saint Hunt was very convincing. The EHH tape was just icing on the cake. I'd forgotten that a while back a woman claiming to be a long time mistress of LBJ essentially said the same thing.

I think St. John has either a DVD or tape or book out. If you're interested, well worth pursuing.

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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:13 AM
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8. Hunts, and Bushes, and Dallas..oh my!
The original coup (1963) from which both cursed clans are still profiting handsomely today.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:50 AM
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9. So this is what it will come to.
These reckless, ruthless people feel they have a divine right to destroy everybody's lives, which is part of their sadistic fantasies. They keep getting away with it because they live under the cloak of darkness, destroying anyone, including their own children, who dare to reveal their secrets.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:02 AM
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10. A clip of a portion of the deathbed confession can be heard here
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 11:52 AM
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11. kick
nt
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:25 PM
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12. I should also tack onto this thread...

In one of his tapes, Nixon has said that the Warren Commission Report was a great hoax:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1848157.stm

Referring to the report by the Warren Commission, "it was the greatest hoax that has ever been perpetuated," Nixon said. He did not elaborate why he questioned the report.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:20 PM
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13. Deep Throat told Bob Woodward...
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 05:21 PM by starroute
... that Howard Hunt's group in the White House was the "really heavy operations team."

I've just been looking through "All the President's Men" for clues to the current goings-on and came across that statement. I'm still wondering how heavy it really got.

On the same page, Deep Throat says that Hunt's leak-plugging operating "was not only to check leaks to the papers but often to manufacture items for the press. ... Recipients include all of you guys -- Jack Anderson, Evans and Novak, the Post, and the New York Times, The Chicago Tribune. ... Total manipulation -- that was their goal."

Yeah, that Novak. He's been on the receiving end for a *looong* time.

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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 05:59 PM
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14. K&R
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:17 PM
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15. About 1975 or so St. John showed up at a pizza party
at my girlfriend's house in rural Wisconsin. He was hiding out. We didn't really care who his dad was, we figured if he was at our party he was OK. I remember him as a pretty good piano player.
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