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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 02:30 AM
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Boehlert: Debate allowed Beltway press to voice contempt for Clinton in guise of political analysis
Media Matters for America: Hillary, the debate, and the media folly
by Eric Boehlert

....Have we ever seen such a comically overwrought media reaction to a presidential primary debate before? I can't recall one. Echoing GOP talking points virtually word-for word and steadfastly ignoring poll after poll that showed the debate hadn't changed the campaign dynamics one bit, pundits tripped over themselves describing just how badly Clinton had been bloodied and "cut" in the debate fight. By the time the cacophony of negative reviews hit the airwaves during the weekend talk shows, I half-expected to hear pundits suggest that Clinton think about getting out of the race; the damage from the debate was that bad....

...forgive me if I don't embrace the chattering class' breathless consensus that the Philadelphia debate was a turning point in the campaign. It was clearly a watershed moment for the media. But for voters? Not so much. There was little evidence that everyday voters even thought the debate was a remarkable event. (And why should they? It was viewed by less than one percent of all Americans.)

As for progressive activists who would have to fuel any post-debate shift within the Democratic race, the debate was also a nonstarter. At least that was the take-away last week from reading the key liberal blogs, where Clinton criticism usually flows freely. Instead, there was very little complaining about Clinton's debate performance. The story did not receive much play at the widely read Huffington Post; at firedoglake.com, influential blogger Jane Hamsher, posting under the headline "Thanks But I Think I'll Skip the Pile-On," actually credited Clinton for tackling several controversial issues during the debate.

For the Beltway press, though, the debate was Katy-bar-the-door time because reporters and pundits, prompted by the harsh debate attacks, were finally allowed to give voice to their longstanding personal contempt for Clinton and do it under the guise of political analysis. The debate performance crystallized for them what they don't like about Clinton. And for the press, that revelation qualified as news....(L)et's note that the mainstream press and the Republican Party are now in perfect unison when it comes to the topic of Clinton: She has a deeply flawed character. (It's the same conclusion they came to about Gore's character in 2000 and about Sen. John Kerry's character in 2004.) In fact, when the RNC released a Clinton attack video on the Internet last week, it was filled almost entirely with clips of reporters and pundits denigrating Clinton's debate performance.

Republicans don't even have to send out their talking points; members of the press are more than willing to recite the old ones for free.

http://mediamatters.org/columns/200711060002
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 02:49 AM
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1. So Boehlert is another Craig Crawford.
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 03:09 AM by ClarkUSA
If Boehlert cared to look at Daily Kos and DU, he'd have seen plenty of "post-debate shift". He's also ignoring polls out of Iowa
and NH as well as Rasmussen's latest daily tracking poll and Zogby's latest that all show a post-debate decline in Clinton's numbers,
not to mention the latest CNN poll that showed a 34% decline in Clinton's lead over Obama in the past week.

What a tool.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:39 AM
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5. You mean Hillary supporters on DU changed their minds?
How many abandoned their candidate? I saw plenty of people who were never going to vote for her even in the general express their horror, but which Hillary supporters bravely took up the banner for Kucinich, Edwards, Obama, and whoever else is out there?

Feel free to name names and provide links.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 02:59 AM
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2. Just watching the media idiots. Not really giving a care, but watching
The GOPers and the media want a Clinton candidate. That is evident.

Don't have a dog in this race. Just watching.
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 03:45 AM
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4. Who the heck are you referring to when you say the media want a Clinton candidate?
If anything, I'm seeing the opposite. I have not heard or read much in the general media that is pro-HRC. When you dig a little, though, you see that the PEOPLE want a Clinton candidate. A bit different, don't you think?

Peace.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 03:37 AM
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3. Yep. The media has been lusting after the "Hillary Falls" narrative from the very beginning.
Russert was determined to get it.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:53 AM
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9. A good piece on Russert, from American Prospect --
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 04:40 AM
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6. Many on DU echo rightwing talking points.
I'm sure it's because they're loyal Democrats.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 06:33 AM
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7. DU is where I go to hear what the right wing thinks.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:19 AM
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8. Each morning I first check out GD:Politics to see what are the worst atttacks of the day
against our candidates. DU never fails to hate our guys worse than the freeps.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:03 AM
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10. If there is any down-turn in the polls it is because of the media
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 10:05 AM by Evergreen Emerald
she did fine in the debate, but the media is continuing to attempt to take her down with their continued attacks. Just like Dean. Just like Gore.

The democrats are really going to have to be tough in the general election to overcome the leg-up the republicans have with the media.

It is through-the-looking-glass amazing to suggest that any of the republican candidates are viable. The media is redefining them too.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:07 AM
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11. And Gore and Kerry. n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:16 AM
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12. Except both Gore and Kerry won anyway - so RNC had to steal it for Bush.
and the DNC didn't exactly put up much of a counter to the RNC's strategy to steal elections in 2002 and 2004, though we learned about many of those tactics in the hearings on 2000's theft.

BTW - I notice that those concerned about Hillary being hurt by RW smears and distortions weren't much concerned when Hillary accepted RW distortions and lies in her public display against Kerry for 'insulting the troops' as the RW smear machine claimed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg


Surely Hillary did not BELIEVE the RW smear against Kerry and dare to use it against him publically, did she?
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