The rush to condemn Obama for not voting on AG when Hillary did the same thing. . .

[wndycty]

. . .shows what is up at DU. I fully expect the usual suspects to tell me why Obama's not voting makes it worse. The DU has just become a place where its fashionable to stop at nothing to bash the other guy or girl.

[LittleClarkie]

1. It seems Reid moved the vote up. It surprised several Senators

Dodd and Biden weren't there either.

[regnaD kciN]

6. I get the feeling Reid's intent...

...was to make sure none of the Democratic presidential candidates would be able to vote on this, and hence wouldn't have their vote made into a campaign issue.

If so, it doesn't seem to have worked around here.

[regnaD kciN]

2. Yep..."Hill's Shills" are already at it full-force...

...and, when people point out that their candidate did the same thing, denounce them as "Hillary-haters." :eyes:

[wndycty]

8. Exactly, its the Clinton strategy. Manufacture outrage towards Obama. . .

. . .that is how they do. I actually won't criticize them for it. If Barack wins the nomination he needs to use similar tactics against the GOP and if Hillary wins I'm glad she pulls no punches. But until we have a nominee I will hate it.

[emilyg]

13. Link please.

[Evergreen Emerald]

21. stop for goodness sakes.

Why are you calling people names?

[youthere]

28. Please don't call other DUérs names..

when you refer to them as "Hill's Shills" it is intended to be derogatory. I can certainly understand your frustration when it comes to the smearing of a candidate, but aside from it being a violation of the rules, I think we've got enough negative behavior going these days. I wish this primary season was over and we could all go back to focusing our anger at the repukes!

[rusty quoin]

3. This is the point I shut down.

[CyberPieHole]

4. No excuses for ANY of them...they failed to vote...they failed to do their duty...

ALL of them. Why can they not see how important this was?

[beaconess]

5. Not their fault - blame Reid! n/t

[regnaD kciN]

7. You can't vote if you aren't informed of the vote with enough time...

...to get back to D.C. for the roll-call.

I'm inclined to give them all a pass on this one.

[babylonsister]

16. Baloney. Last week Reid specifically asked all Senate members

be in town this week for several important votes. He was ignored.

[beaconess]

49. He did? Your source?

[incapsulated]

9. tire·some

adj : so lacking in interest as to cause mental weariness; "a
boring evening with uninteresting people"; "the
deadening effect of some routine tasks"; "a dull play";
"his competent but dull performance"; "a ho-hum speaker
who couldn't capture their attention"; "what an irksome
task the writing of long letters is"- Edmund Burke;
"tedious days on the train"; "the tiresome chirping of
a cricket"- Mark Twain; "other people's dreams are
dreadfully wearisome" ho-hum, irksome, slow, tedious, wearisome]

[mrreowwr_kittty]

10. I've coined a new acronym in honor of the persistent double standard. IOKIYAHRC.

It's Okay If You Are Hillary Rodham Clinton.

[cuke]

11. Is that why a Clinton supporter started the thread about how Clinton missed the vote?

[emilyg]

12. link please.

[undercoverduer]

17. Here you go.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3699278

[jonnyblitz]

19. apparently the National Journal Hotline blog ,for whatever

reason, decided to single out Obama for being absent for the vote, therefore the DUer started the thread with that as the source. I am sure if the same source only mentioned Hillary as being absent the same Obama supporters feigning outrage would have jumped all over it and started a thread screeching about Hillary being absent, so SPARE ME!! :eyes:

[ellacott]

22. Actually that's not true

Most of this feigned outrage is stupid anyway. This has been something that Obama opponents have previously criticized him for doing. This played into their narrative of Obama and they ran with it.

[undercoverduer]

23. That's the ticket, blame someone else for knee jerk reactions. . .

. . .don't take the time to see what other candidates did. Just because a blog did it, its ok? You spare me!

[bklyncowgirl]

14. All four were wrong to not vote, period. nt

[DFW]

15. That is petty stuff, and very transparent

When Feinstein and Schumer said they would vote to approve, it didn't matter
who was there from the Democrats and who was not. If two Democrats defect and
no Republicans do, we're screwed. It's that simple. If Obama had shown up with
a clone and voted twice, it wouldn't have changed the outcome (same goes for Hillary).

[ellacott]

18. Yes, very transparent and petty

They were very quick to condemn Obama.

[undercoverduer]

20. It is what makes DU criticism of any candidate, not just Obama, very seriously. . .

. . .I support Obama but can be happy with all Democratic nominees, there is legitimate criticism of all candidates however on DU even legitimate criticism is carried out in a manor that is not meant to be constructive but to bash.

[ellacott]

25. Bashing is an art form around here n/t

[itsrobert]

24. I'm going to alligned myself either behind Edwards or Obama

I hope my vote will count in California. I will do as much I can to avoid "more of the same".

[youthere]

26. I have not seen anyone singling out Obama for missing this vote.

and if someone is..clearly they are out of line. Clinton, Dodd, Obama and Biden all missed the vote because it was pushed by Reid. Entirely forgiveable IMO.

[MNDemNY]

27. But they must claim "victim " status!!! gobama?

[ellacott]

29. Right here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3699278

[youthere]

30. Thanks for providing the link...

I had not seen the thread, but it is clearly a bash Obama thread and I alerted on it. I posted as much as I could on that thread, too, to set the record straight. The smearing of Obama is way out of line. I'm giving my support to Biden in the primaries, but I don't want to see any candidate smeared like that.

[MNDemNY]

31. ???

It says that BHO made a choice not to go back for vote. It doesn't say he had no time to get there. Fuck him. And fuck the rest of them for not voting. They all fucked up.And fuck all who voted for him.

[ellacott]

32. It didn't say that

It said he wasn't going back. It didn't say that he had time to get there either. Was he given advance notice that none of the other candidates received?

[MNDemNY]

34. They all knew it was coming they all should have been back, To say"it wont be close" is a cop out.

[ellacott]

41. According to whatever report you choose to believe

Regardless, they all had the same amount of notice.

[MNDemNY]

42. Yes, fuck them all.

[ellacott]

43. As long as you're consistent n/t

[dionysus]

40. "fuck all who voted for him" eh? i know you loved typing that

go ahead and call him an uppity negro... i know you want to...

[Name removed]

44. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[dionysus]

47. what a polite way to point out i misread a sentence of your post

self delete

[MNDemNY]

48. Yet you leave up this reply??

:puke:

[Karmadillo]

50. In defense of Karmadillo's posting of that link,

there was no indication at the time the other candidates wouldn't be there to vote.

[yardwork]

33. You just made that up. Everybody is mad at all the candidates today.

I haven't seen one thread or post singling out any one candidate. They're all in the dog house for this today. Give it a rest.

[ellacott]

36. This thread was from last night

It was prompted by this thread that was also posted last night:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3699278

[bigwillq]

35. Every Senator should've been there

for that vote. DEM, Repuke, Presidential candidate or not. It was a very important vote.

[redqueen]

37. It was important...

I wonder if maybe they already knew the RW dems would defect, so didn't bother.

I can't think of any other reason they'd just skip it.

*sigh*

[bigwillq]

38. Those are just excuses

They had to know the vote would come down this week..they should've been in DC...That's still their first priority. They are still a senator. Get your ass to DC and earn the taxpayers money. :mad:

[redqueen]

39. Who pays them more?

Us or the lobbyists?

Occurrences this week are making me more sad than angry.

[rinsd]

46. Agreed.

This was confirmation of the highest "lawman" in the land.

[rinsd]

45. There is no excuse for any of them not voting.

This was an important confirmation and they should be on record with their votes to oppose, saying nothing of nonexistent fillibusters.

[illinoisprogressive]

51. I find myself coming here less because it is all about trashing people anymore

serious discussion is no longer available.

[MonkeyFunk]

52. I didn't see anybody

attack Obama, and then defend Clinton.

They all should've voted. The Obama thread was started a few hours before the vote when it was reported he wouldn't attend. I didn't see any reporting that Clinton wouldn't be there.

Literally within a minute of learning she wasn't there (along with Biden and Dodd), I started a thread faulting her, too.

[Karmadillo]

53. Rightfully so, too. DU was pretty consistent in criticizing how the

matter was handled by the Dems. Ideally, they should have all been there to be on the record. Whether that was realistic given what has been reported about Reid's negotiations, I don't know.

[LWolf]

54. I'm happy to condemn them both equally.

:D: