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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 04:56 PM
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House Dem defends leadership decision to quash impeachment
Source: The Raw Story

A House Democratic leader defended the party's decision not to pursue the impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney, saying an effort to oust the man who is among the most vocal pushing for war with Iran is "not even in the top 10" of voters' priorities and would benefit Republicans at the polls next year.

In a heated exchange Thursday with liberal radio host Ed Schultz, Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the deputy Democratic whip, said the party, which dramatically swept into power last year, was more focused on other priorities.

Voters asked Congress "to focus on withdrawing our troops from iraq, on expanding healthcare access. ... They did not ask us to spend any time on the impeachment of the vice president," Wasserman Schultz insisted.

Impeachment would prevent Congress from addressing issues like the war in Iraq, healthcare, renewable energy and the environment.

Read more: http://rawstory.com/news/2007/House_Dem_defends_leadership_decision_to_1109.html
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 04:58 PM
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1. We've been screaming for impeachment for six years! WTF!!! n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 04:59 PM
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2. Cui Bono? Who benefits?
the top 1%
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Morereason Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 09:33 PM
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36. Wow!!! Listen to the audio! Schultz is all over her. He wants impeachment!
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:01 PM
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3. what priorities? these assholes haven't done anything!
We can't even get Democratic presidential canidates to promise to end the war during their first term!
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 06:02 PM
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23. Atleast the MSMs top wont but we have some that would,its our..
choice on who we nominate. Look at what candidates are speaking out about impeachment and which ones aren't, that should tell you allot about who they are and who's team they are on.
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:01 PM
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4. The Stench of DINO BuShit
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 05:04 PM by vmaus
wafts from the halls of Congress
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:06 PM
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9. INDEED....
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:01 PM
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5. Right ya are. Go on passing bills that jr can veto and you can not override.
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 05:03 PM by Vincardog
That is SO much better that impeaching the criminals and returning our country to some semblance of the rule of law, Does anyone feel like yelling BULLSHIT?
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:02 PM
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6. Hey Washerman-Shlitz. You haven't done that either.
Screw you and Stinky Hoyer both!
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dantyrant Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:09 PM
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10. Exactly.
What the hell kind of argument is that?
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jordi_fanclub Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:05 PM
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7. "not even in the top 10" of voters' priorities ?!?!?!
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 05:05 PM by jordi_fanclub
And exactly WHERE is that famous LIST of priorities?

I presume that exists at least a little poll INCLUDING the impeachment priority!

EDIT: Or don't exists???
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Morereason Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 09:34 PM
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37. Because they are told it is not possible
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:06 PM
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8. So you can, in fact, rape the Constitution and get away with it.
Good to know. It's a fine precedent indeed for all people who want nothing more than just a little more power.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:15 PM
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11. Where have I heard this before?
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 05:19 PM by KansDem
...was more focused on other priorities.

Oh, yeah! Now I remember...

"......former Congressman Lee Hamilton, chairman of the House select committee investigating the Iran-contra affair, was shown ample evidence against Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush, but he did not probe their wrongdoing. Why did Hamilton choose not to investigate? In a late 1980s interview aired on PBS 'Frontline,' Hamilton said that he did not think it would have been 'good for the country' to put the public through another impeachment trial. In Lee Hamilton's view, it was better to keep the public in the dark than to bring to light another Watergate, with all the implied ramifications. When Hamilton was chairman of the House committee investigating Iran-contra, he took the word of senior Reagan administration officials when they claimed Bush and Reagan were 'out of the loop.' Independent counsel Lawrence Walsh and White House records later proved that Reagan and Bush had been very much in the loop. If Hamilton had looked into the matter instead of accepting the Reagan administration's word, the congressional investigation would have shown the public the truth. Hamilton later said he should not have believed the Reagan officials. However, today, George W. Bush is considering appointing Hamilton UN ambassador."

Lee Hamilton and Iran-Contra

Done for the "good of the country."

Oh, and this...

But, in 1993, Clinton and the Democratic congressional leadership concluded that pursuit of these “old” scandals would only embitter the Republicans, make the Democratic Party look vindictive and endanger the bipartisanship that Clinton saw as essential for his domestic policy agenda.

The scandals also were complicated affairs, requiring detailed understanding of the underlying facts. Much of what happened had occurred in secret and involved foreign witnesses spread over several continents. The events covered more than a decade in time.


This was also done "for the good of the country"

Consortium News

So "for the good of the country" means letting neo-con criminals go free? They'll only be back again and we'll go through this whole nightmare again.
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 07:51 PM
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32. Impeachment is too inconvenient?!
It will divide the party? These are lame reasons not to uphold the law of the land, and enable criminal behavior.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:16 PM
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12. What a load of crap.
I used to like her too. They all suck. The Constitution should have had something in it whereas the American people could vote to FIRE THEM ALL and tell them to get the Hell out of our house. They are not doing what we want them to do. Do they think if they tell us that impeachment is not a priority for Americans right now that we are just going to believe them? That is a Republican tactic and we Dems are far more intelligent than that. Iraq. Impeachment. Economy. Start with those three things you bunch of asswipes. Might as well start with impeachment since you can not seem to stop funding the occupation of Iraq. Disgusting pigs in Washington. It is time for a Revolution. We want our country back now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:24 PM
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14. Perhaps it was a message
when the Republicans voted not to table H.R.333. Maybe that's why they were laughing when they changed their votes and gave US the message that the whole thing is rigged. They said "Here, have your impeachment," knowing all along they own the majority of House Democrats. Perhaps some of these Democrats ran on lies and really aren't Democrats, but placed as such.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:30 PM
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17. Oh, I see
Wasserman Schultz works on the Clinton campaign. Now we see where she gets her orders.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:19 PM
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13. BULLSHIT Debbie! And you know it. If you don't, you should resign because you aren't
paying attention.

BULLSHIT,
DEBBIE...

BULLSHIT!


Grab yourself by your frizzy hair and pull your head out of your ass. IMPEACHMENT is on the table for your constituents and the Democratic base, and you aren't even coming to dinner!

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:28 PM
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15. When asked about impeachment
they all use the very same talking points. At least they've learned something from the republics.

I can see them in their early morning meetings doing the Wal-Mart cheer...

"Do our constituents want impeachment? Everyone say it together! NO!"

:grr:
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:30 PM
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16. Vichy Democrats

Surrender Monkeys




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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:31 PM
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18. How can we uphold the rule of law, if the rich and powerful go unpunished
while the poor suffer the full consequences to the letter of the law?
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:32 PM
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19. They have no fucking clue what the top ten priorities of voters are
because they clearly only listed to corporate reps and donors. x(

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:52 PM
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20. God Damn it Debbie
Impeachment is the people's business. If you do not understand that get out
and get out now. Wanna help stop this insane war in Iraq? How about holding
to account the man whose lies and schemes got us into that war?

These bastards have stolen 2 elections, lied us into a war, made terrorism worse,
looted the Treasury, spied on us, help to kill the supportive capacity of the planet
for a buck, committed treason in the Plame case, and many many more actions
all of which rise to the level of a "high crime or misdemeanor" and you spineless
shits do nothing.
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2tr4nqued Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:57 PM
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21. We need an impeachment pledge.
Here's mine:

I, , do solemnly swear that if Democrats do not do everything within their power to impeach Vice President Cheney and President Bush, then I will not vote for any Democrats in 2008.

I invite everyone to join in the ultimatum.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 06:00 PM
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22. Who lives in her district?
Start peppering her with emails and phone calls telling her to IMPEACH!
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 06:07 PM
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24. And of course she's from Florida...
"Impeachment would prevent Congress from addressing issues like the war in Iraq, healthcare, renewable energy and the environment."

Someone might explain to her that if we impeached Cheney and then Bush and then removed Pelosi and Hoyer, and her, we wouldn't have to address Iraq. We could just withdraw the troops.

What is it with Democrats who are elected by Democrats, and some Republicans, and then act as lapdogs for the very people we elected them to impeach?

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 06:16 PM
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25. "They" just don't get it.
All they have is excuses ... Cheney lied to get us into an unneeded war.
And impeachment would at long last hold him to account for that evil
act.

BTW I don't give s*** one about 2008 and the elections .... I want these
crooks held accountable now. So if a bank robber is all the way out
of the bank .... let him go because the stick - up is over?
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 06:16 PM
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26. her office has received over 2000 calls today - want to give her your 2 cents?
free call to anyone in the senate or congress

1 800 862 5530

just ask for whoever you want

or 800 828 0498

keep those call going all week to everyone on house judiciary
or your own congressperson
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 06:17 PM
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27. I support their decision. nt
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 06:25 PM
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28. i do too
ive never been on the impeachment bandwagon, mainly because i want to see a democrat in the white house in 08. Sure id support impeachment hearings if they were to happen, but it would lose so much of the independent vote its not even worth it. Most of my friends are independent voters and i know the last thing they want to see on tv is the government bogged down in hearings for the next 12 months.
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 09:15 PM
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35. That assumes this govt. cant walk and chew gum at the same time - only
the judiciary committee of the house is involved in the
beginning...they doo all the investigative work and hearings
before it goes to Senate for vote....

with the hundreds of thousands of committees and subcommittees
on the Hill...they cant handle impeachment hearings?

think about it.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:02 PM
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34. Then you better enlist in the military and go fight Iran
It would be cowardly to support an attack on Iran which will put our troops in Iraq in grave peril.
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 04:35 AM
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38. you're reaching
We wont attack iran. This is an example of fear mongering by the good guys, and frankly is getting very old
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ideagarden Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 06:26 PM
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29. traitors...
The Democratic Party has been infiltrated. There is a time in history when we must form new parties and detract from the power grabbing controllers. The democrats need to seriously think about regrouping for the people of this country.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 07:12 PM
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30. Their sorry excuses would have been more credible had they defunded the war
No wonder this Congress is polling lower than Bush!
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 07:23 PM
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31. This is from her website
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 07:24 PM by 2rth2pwr
“Impeachment is a lengthy process which would divide Congress and this nation even more deeply than we are divided right now. Referring this resolution to the House Judiciary Committee is the constitutionally appropriate process that should be pursued.”

edit for linky thing- http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/fl20_schultz/HRes333statement.html
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 07:57 PM
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33. And the gnashing of teeth could be heard in the nets!


Get over it already. It wasn't gonna happen period.
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