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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:38 PM
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***Heartland Presidential Forum is on C-Span NOW, at 2:30PM EST!***
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 03:02 PM by flpoljunkie
Will last for approximately 3 hours.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:42 PM
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1. is this a presidential forum or a sunday mass?
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:43 PM
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2. Would like to know in what order the candidates will appear. Assume they are not all on the stage.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:45 PM
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3. I was surprised by that too
Although if there must be a prayer, that was a good one.

(Still wonder why there must be a prayer, though. Is the sponsoring group based in religion?)
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:46 PM
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4. Looks like they are going to introduce every person on the stage before they begin!
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:47 PM
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5. it doesnt look like theres room for all the candidates
do you think they will have them speak one at a time?
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:49 PM
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8. Edwards on at 2p.
We got to tell you about community values first.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:51 PM
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10. do you know if clinton will be there?
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 02:51 PM by Lirwin2
or is she still in NH because of yesterday?
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:10 PM
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22. Wndycty said Clinton would appear by phone. See post #12.
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 03:10 PM by flpoljunkie
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:35 PM
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27. thanks.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:39 PM
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29. What?
:wtf: Is this another way for her to dodge the real issues to some real questions?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:43 PM
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32. The Des Moines airport was shut down from the ice storm.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:49 PM
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37. Ok. Thanks.
I didn't even know they were having a big snow storm being on the east coast here.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:18 PM
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45. I see you're new here, so let me help you out- People here try to follow a rule:
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 04:19 PM by Lirwin2
"Facts before posting." Try to follow it, thanks.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:05 AM
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81. LOL! I stick with my opinion. And check YOUR facts.
I have been here 11 months longer than you. Duh!! :woohoo:
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:48 PM
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6. I will post my behind the scene videos. . .
. . .I might not be able to log in but keep it kicked. Be sure to post video responses to candidates on youtube. visit http://movementvisionlad.org for more info. I will be debrief tonight or tomorrow, but I may jump online at some time.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:49 PM
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7. Wow, you're there wndycty??
Cool! Is this an interfaith group of some kind?
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:50 PM
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9. Not interfaith. . .just community groups led by Center for Community Change
and Iowa CCI. I have been here since last Sunday working on it.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:54 PM
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13. Wow! Impressive, wndycty!
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:57 PM
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16. Must be incredibly exciting for you!
Good for you for getting involved with it! :thumbsup:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:53 PM
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11. Look forward to your videos. Meanwhile, photos of Obama supporters at this event.

A supporter of U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama runs with a poster prior to the start of the Heartland Presidential Forum in Des Moines, Iowa December 1, 2007. REUTERS/Carlos Barria (UNITED STATES)


Supporters of U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama cheer prior to the start of the Heartland Presidential Forum in Des Moines, Iowa December 1, 2007. REUTERS/Carlos Barria (UNITED STATES)


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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:55 PM
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14. I love that first one
Seems iconic somehow! Very nice.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:57 PM
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17. A fun pic, but it looks dangerous to be running there!
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:57 PM
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18. Being slippery, or running past the Edwards sign?
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:05 PM
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20. I hadn't noticed it 'til you mentioned it. Ha!
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 03:05 PM by flpoljunkie
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:06 PM
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21. Seemed kinda symbolic.
Just sayin'! :)
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:12 PM
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24. lol, I didn't notice that.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:45 PM
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34. Wasn't there supposed to ba a rally or something beforehand which
was canceled because of the weather? I read that somewhere.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 06:44 PM
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77. Yes, the outdoor rally was cancelled because of the weather.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:54 PM
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12. One at time. . .
Hillary will be joining by phone, she got stuck out east. Run down is Edwards, Kucinich, Clinton, Dodd and Obama
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:56 PM
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15. Thanks for letting us know the order of appearance--Edwards, Kucinich, Clinton, Dodd, Obama.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 02:58 PM
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19. Thanks,
it's great that you're there!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:11 PM
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23. Edwards up now.
Q: If elected President, would you be willing to make the hard decisions that will ensure we live up to our community values?

A: I will...
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:35 PM
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26. It looks like it's going to be a successive round
of stump speeches.
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cynthia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:44 PM
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33. they are allowing questions from the audience
Right now they have on a woman from the National Korean American Service, asking a question about living wage.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:45 PM
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35. Yes, but it's a forum to push their platforms
rather than to really answer any questions. I like it FWIW.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:16 PM
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42. I thought so but the questions I'm hearing now seem more confrontational...
:shrug:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:18 PM
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47. I think you're right. The tone was slightly more "challenging" with Hillary...
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 04:19 PM by jefferson_dem
Or maybe it's just me.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:21 PM
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51. Oh, they definitely became confrontational,
but I was out of the room and missed why they were booing for Clinton.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:34 PM
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25. Kucinich's turn.
Edwards got an enthusiastic response. I'm sure Kucinich will as well!
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:35 PM
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28. "I understand the process of community."
The process of community -- I love that.

Talking about his healthcare proposal now.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:40 PM
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30. K&R
I was just going to post this! Thanks!
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:42 PM
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31. I love to listen to Dennis ,
he sets the Democratic standard on so many issues IMO.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:48 PM
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36. Dennis ROCKS!!
Could one of our alleged "centrists" explain how he's "wrong" in anything he just said?
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:52 PM
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38. Streaming here
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 03:56 PM
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39. FABULOUS Dennis!! nt
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:02 PM
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40. Did Obama go?
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:03 PM
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41. I think he's last on the program nt
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:18 PM
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43. What were they booing?
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:18 PM
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44. Hillary got BOOED!
:rofl:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:18 PM
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46. yeah, some people don't like being reminded of the process of passing legislation
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 04:19 PM by wyldwolf
Hillary should have said I'll wave a magic wand and make these things happen without Congressional input.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:20 PM
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50. Those were some tough immigration questions. Hillary is right...
but some there didn't seem to want to listen.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:20 PM
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48. Why?
What did she say, I missed it.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:26 PM
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54. she reminded them a president doesn't have a magic wand...
... and that Congress plays a role in passing new laws.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:29 PM
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55. Ok,
immigration laws I'm guessing. It's going to be a tough set of issues for us in the general, the GOP's going to do everything to use it against us IMO.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:42 PM
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58. The last question was one of those, "Rahm Emanuel said..." questions...
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 04:42 PM by Sparkly
I didn't hear any such questions to others (asking them to respond to something somebody else said), nor did I hear any of the other questioners following up with a challenge -- "What about the 100 days" or whatever that was... But I left the room and just got back.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:46 PM
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61. Ah, sounds unfair.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 06:52 PM
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79. It wasn't. It was a nice event. Ordinary people
asking ordinary questions.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 05:23 PM
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75. They asked for 100 days legislation
Whether she would make immigration reform a 100 day legislation commitment. She didn't. Boooo. I don't know if any other candidate has pledged that, to be fair. But it's garbage to pretend a President doesn't set the agenda, they do.
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:20 PM
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49. What goes around comes around.
:-)
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:22 PM
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52. Even at the end when she said she couldn't make it there, they bood.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:30 PM
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56. I don't think they were booing about that.
She got snowed in. Even Almighty Hillary can't control the weather. They just thought her last answer was a copout.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:26 PM
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53. These immigration stories are heart rending
:cry:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:35 PM
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57. Dodd is very impressive today nt
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:45 PM
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59. The crowd loved Dodd
He really connected.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:46 PM
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60. Can anybody say crowd favorite?
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:47 PM
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62. Sure seems that way.
Crowd favorite!
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:48 PM
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64. Oh yes, the energy in the room just went up
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 04:51 PM by seasonedblue
several levels.

Obama, I'm talking about Obama ROFL.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 04:47 PM
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63. This has been awesome!
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 05:09 PM
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65. President Obama, anyone?
Yeah...I think so.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 05:11 PM
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66. That last answer rocked
On the simplest question of them all, He hit it out of the ballpark.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 05:13 PM
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69. He means it...they will be part of the process
and they trust him when he says it, too.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 05:17 PM
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71. The R word
I was clapping my hands so hard. REGULATION - Yessssssss!!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 05:12 PM
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67. An absolutely incredible presentation by Obama.
Inspiring.

Time to drop a few more dollars in the Obama pot... He's earned it.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 05:13 PM
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68. What a wonderful forum this was
100 times better than the fancy-dancy debates. I really enjoyed it.

Hey, wndy! This was a treat.

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 05:16 PM
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70. The questioners I saw were amazing
Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 05:17 PM by BeyondGeography
as clear-eyed and strong a group of people that you'll ever find.

Such incredible strength and energy in this country, when you give people a chance to breathe, that is.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 05:21 PM
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73. Absolutely
These people know what's what.

I loved this:

"Some things aren't right and some things ain't right."
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 05:21 PM
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72. He was terrific
I don't see how any working class shmoe cannot see he is for "us". He knows the reality of the political hurdles, but he also knows that there's a difference between what will help working people and the upper ten percent "middle class".
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 05:25 PM
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76. Well said...some people sneer at his community organizing years as a resume point
but not the people in THAT room.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 05:22 PM
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74. Oh yeah!
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 07:25 PM
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80. Photo of Obama at the Forum today from the very talented photographer Charlie Neibergall

Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., points to supporters before speaking at the Heartland Presidential Forum, Saturday, Dec. 1, 2007, in Des Moines, Iowa. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 06:50 PM
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78. My c-span feed started ditzing right after Dennis, so I just closed it. I turned
it back on toward the end (closing prayer) and C-Span took some caller phone calls.

Most of the people were very impressed with Dodd - one woman wasn't even sure of his name and said something like "I believe he's a Senator".

Dodd and Obama got the most praise on the calls I heard.


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