Do you really know who your voting for ?????

[Tinksrival]

Do you really know who they were and who they are now...... and why???

"And people have had a chance to see all of the candidates now, and they understand that I am the only one running that voted against the war and voted against funding the war. People get a chance to study this and as the elections draw near the awareness is becoming more and more clear.
There is a moral equation here which history, morality and human decency requires that we look at. What gives the United States of America or our leaders the right to wage war against innocent people? By what law do we assume the right to attack Iraq, a nation that did not attack us and had nothing to do with 9/11 or Al Qaeda's role in 9/11 and neither the intention or the capability of attacking us? In what right do we assume the ability to launch a grandiose attack against Iran, using 30,000 lb. bunker busters, dropping them down on nuclear research labs, which will create Chernobyl in effect? What right do we have to do this? What right do we have to even think about it?
There is a moral dimension to this that needs to be looked at because it characterizes our times. We've got leaders that feel they are not bound by the law, that proceed in a way that is unconscionable, licensed by the media that becomes complicit in their lack of straightforward analysis and criticism. Our nation is being stained by this. They don’t get that the Patriot Acts took away our rights, they all voted for it. Edwards was a co-author. They don’t get that eavesdropping and wiretapping is against the very fiber of this country."

Dennis Kucinich


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Full interview here:http://www.dareland.com/freep/issue208.htm">LA FREE PRESS

[laconicsax]

1. Is that picture supposed to imply that Kucinich

has wooden teeth?

I'm pretty sure he doesn't.

[Tinksrival]

3. Ha! I like that pic!

It's better that this one which I think is sacrilegious! No one deserves to be photoshopped as the Chimps head!

[L0oniX]

4. It's a shame you Photo Shopped that on top of Bush but Kucinich still looks good.

[Tinksrival]

5. Aw geez!

No, I didn't do it. It's from L.A. Free Press. The link at the bottom of the OP.

[mtnsnake]

2. Kucinich is the man. No one else comes close when it comes to telling the truth

[DurShar]

25. I 2nd that.

:-)

[slipslidingaway]

6. Thank you K&R n/t

[slipslidingaway]

7. Kick, good insight into Kucinich on a varirty of topics.

"...LA FREE PRESS: How do you hope to make a change when basically you have the entire corporate state against you?

KUCINICH: I don’t take that personal. You have to show people that acceleration of wealth upwards is not in their interest. Various Americans have lost their homes because of the corruption on Wall Street and the indifference of the Federal Reserve. They lost it through sub prime loans that shouldn’t have been written in the first place. They lost it because the government was a cop that went off the beat while the Security Exchange Commission and hedge funds were booking huge values from people writing these mortgages without documentation and every one is making money off the increased value for the investors, more loans booked, more investors you have, the more the portfolio value grows. People make a lot of money and nobody can pay these things off and everything unravels. Oil companies are ripping off the American people; the government is pocketing profits. We’re at war for oil.
My responsibility is to help people make the connections to the reality of how this affects their own life. I have the ability to do that because of my life experience, because of the way I grew up, because I understand what people go through, because I know that for most people having a roof over their head is what’s important..."

[slipslidingaway]

8. Health care....

"...KUCINICH: One of the grand deceptions of the 2008 campaign involves candidates speaking about universal health care, as though universal health care was a goal that once achieved will provide affordable accessible health care to all Americans. While the other candidates advocate continuation of the for-profit system, they want government to provide more subsidy to the insurance companies. Under those circumstances,people would still be stuck with high premiums, co-pays, and deductibles, which are sinking the budgets of many American families.
Half the bankruptcies in America are tied directly to people not being able to pay their hospital bills. The bill I co-authored, Hr676, is a single payer, not for profit system. Medicare for all. This bill provides that all of the assets in this country that are currently for profit will be converted into not for profit and the government will pay the bills.
The current system provides that $1 out of every $3 is spent for corporate profit, stock options, salaries, advertising, marketing, and the cost of paperwork. According to a Harvard University study, over $700 billion a year goes just for the for-profit system. I want to take that money and put it back into health spending and direct care and suddenly we will have enough. Not only will we have enough money for basic care, we will have enough money for vision care, dental care, mental health care, prescription drugs and preventative care. That is how much money is in this system and there will be no more co-pays, premiums and deductibles. To the extent that the government needs more money to run such a system is the extent that you would have a moderate increase to the amount of taxes that are paid and still people will spend only a fraction of the amount they are paying now.
Some families pay $1000 or more a month. Imagine if you made $50 thousand a year and you paid 1% more in taxes. That would be $500 out of your gross pay. Let's do the math. Would you rather pay $500 extra in taxes per year or $12 thousand plus co-pays and deductibles?
This is one of the great corruptions of our campaigns..."

[mopinko]

12. so, dk will nationalize our health care system. he will take

investments, no small amount of which is held by ordinary americans in mutual funds and 401ks, and just take it.
then what?

[slipslidingaway]

13. No there will be some compensation, but you'll have to

research it yourself. I'm happy with my insurance and my investments now, but I also know that one third of those living in our country have either no insurance or are under insured. My daughter also just started Medical School and will be racking up some hefty debt, so the thought of a lower salary for her also weighs on my mind.

For several reasons I should not be for a single-payer system, except for the fact that I believe it to be the morally correct thing and also will be in the best interests of our nation long term.

[mopinko]

15. i can't argue with that, but

i have never heard anyone say word one about how this would work. pie in the sky by and by. i just ain't buyin it.

[slipslidingaway]

19. Of course you would not hear of this, the corporate media

is not going to spell it out for us. And I do not see how the other candidates will implement their plans either.

Mandated insurance, tax credits to pay for private insurance policies, collection agencies and even garnishing wages if premiums are not paid does not appeal to me either.

It's a bold move, but with millions of citizens moving to government paid health care in the next decade we need to spend the for profit dollars for health care.

Insurance is about spreading the risk, letting the government pay for the most needy and letting the insurance companies keep the most profitable people does not make sense to me.

Kucinich plans on taking the plan to the people who will then decide, not threatening to take insurance away from legislators.

Let the people hear the plan and decide.

:shrug:

[zonmoy]

24. to me your daughters debt is part of the problem.

not only should all school debts be forgiven for some sort of non-military charity work but all schooling should be paid for by something akin to the gi bill without military service as a prerequisite without people going into debt for getting an education.

[slipslidingaway]

26. That would be a great idea and would serve both parties...

also it is reason for doctors not wanting to go into general medicine.

We need a bold change in our country in regards to health care especially when you think of all the people who will be moving to Medicare in the coming decade, just as SS will need to start using the Trust Fund.

[LWolf]

9. Yes, I do.

I know who I am voting for: Dennis Kucinich.

I know who I am not voting for, as well. That's why I'm not voting for them.

:hi:

[slipslidingaway]

14. Me too and I found out from our state that if you write in a

candidate their name remains on that machine as a choice for others. If anyone is planning on doing the same then vote early in the day :)

:hi:

[LWolf]

21. I guess that means mail it in early for me, lol.

In Oregon, EVERYONE votes by mail!

:hi:

[slipslidingaway]

23. Yes then mail it early :) n/t

[benny05]

10. Nice pic

But he is no George Washington. K has not worn the uniform, and I'm not suggesting he should have in times like these or Vietnam, but this photoshop doesn't give K or Washington his due. K would have been against any war, including the Revolutionary War, possibly. And that's how we got our country.

[slipslidingaway]

17. Forget the picture and focus on the words. DK had a health

reason for Vietnam and I cannot say with certainty he would have been against the Revolutionary War.

He is the only Democratic candidate who voted to protect our rights under the Constitution when given the chance.

[KoKo]

11. There's NO WAY many DU'ers can't see that THEIR VIEWS are Kucinich!

What harm does it do to vote for him..even if you think he's an elf...while we wait for the STUFF TO FLY against the FRONTRUNNERS?

Kucinich is a Principled/Conscience Vote for many of us. We've been TOLD for too long WHO TO VOTE FOR....let us vote for who we CHOOSE and FAIL ON OUR OWN, FGS! :shrug:

[mopinko]

16. i agree with most of what he says, he just doesn't have a

snowballs chance of doing any of it, nor has he really accomplished much of it from his seat in congress. he just does not play well with others.

[slipslidingaway]

20. If you have listened to Dennis he says this is a fight within our

party and has been for years. Dem leaders also do not see any reason to impeach Cheney and Bush, at some point the people have to take a stand.

If not now then when? It's much easier to fix a leaking roof when it starts, I'm not waiting for the collapse :)

[slipslidingaway]

18. Yes, for thirty years + I've voted 99% of the time for the media

chosen candidate, now that I have more time and see the consequences I'll vote differently.

[riqster]

22. Kooch is far from perfect

...but far and away the best candidate we've got. He's got my vote.

The amazing thing is: most of his positions would have been considered Centrist back in the '70s. The country has slid so far to the Right, he's called a 'Leftist' these days.