Booing

[cali]

is what sucks. Cheering on boorish behavior sucks. I didn't like it when John Edwards was booed in Vegas. I didn't like seeing anyone say he deserved it or excuse those who did it. That was pitiful. Petty. Spiteful. Ugly. So were the suggestions that the booers were Clinton "plants".

And now Clinton gets booed in Iowa. That sucks equally. And the cheering of it here is simply pitiful. Petty. Spiteful. Ugly. And because it's Clinton the plaudits for the booing is amplified by the strong dislike/hate for her here.

Consistency is sometimes the hobgoblin of small minds, but in this case, it certainly shouldn't be.

Making the whole thing even worse, Clinton wasn't even there and couldn't confront her detractors- throw in cowardly as a descriptor of those booing.

Now we've got an ignorant childish post zipping up the 'Greatest Page'. Why? Because it bashes Clinton. Not criticizes. Bashes.

Pathetic. And deserving of nothing more than contempt both for the OP and for those who think it's just swell to mindlessly attack en masse. Group think and nothing but.

[MADem]

1. It is unfortunate that sometimes, a minority of malcontents can define the forum.

Whatcha gonna do, though?

It's always the same bunch, too--the glass half empty crowd, who find everything about our political system just AWFUL, and our party SO LACKING, and if only THEIR views held sway, and THEIR cndidates were elected, well, all would be rosey and happy.

It's their one opportunity to have an imitation of power. Tossing insults is easy. It's easier than actually WORKING for the change that is supposedly desired, I guess.

[cali]

2. I can express

my utter contempt for people who are that petty and mean spirited. That's what I can do. But if I thought it was only a small minority of active posters here who cheered on this shit, I wouldn't have bothered. It likely a minority but not such a small one.

[Perry Logan]

3. If we could just get the Hillary-haters to quit the party.

[cali]

4. I actually believe there are few "hillary haters"

but there are a lot of people who simply join the crowd, and don't think for themselves.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

8. i've been accused here, several times of being her hater.

it's gotten to the point where I quit responding, and to save time, I simply label myself that way. (those intertubes need care and conservation efforts, too) I have searched my biases, my experience with her, and her performance in the senate. there is no way I can bring myself to vote for her. No way. I guess that makes me a hater. (see the blood oozing from my teeth, the steam rising from my ears, and my claws extending?)

[cali]

9. No. That doesn't make you a hater.

If you can't vote for her, you can't. That doesn't particularly bother me. I accept that there are people who see things differently from me. I disagree but don't really care whether or not you vote for her if she's the nominee. I couldn't vote for her in the primary, but then again I couldn't vote for Edwards or Biden or Dodd either. I'd vote for any of them in the GE.

However, if you can't see the very real animus toward Clinton by some posting here and at other sites such as kos, you've got on ideological blinders. And cheering booing for Clinton while decrying it for Edwards, is simple hypocrisy.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

16. I agree, especially on the booing issue.

on the other hand, these aren't really debates, but contests comparing a candidate's collection of recalled talking points. A real debate would be very welcome.

[cali]

17. It certainly would

even real forums are worthwhile, like the Environmental forum that only Clinton, Edwards and Kucinich showed up for. If you haven't heard it, I recommend it.

[Perry Logan]

12. I just think anyone who won't vote for the party's nominee has no business being in the party.

[Bongo Prophet]

23. I am more interesed in growing the party, and in beating the GOP

Damn, I thought it was the "Haters" who were the purists.

It's hard to keep up.

[annabanana]

5. It's worse than you think - I've heard it on CSpan.

I'm not exactly sure who's standing in the back of the room doing it, and the camera of course doesn't pan around to show us..

It is pretty thuggish.

I am reminded of this crew:

[cali]

6. yikes, annabanana

that picture always freaks me out- particularly at this hour of the morning. I really dislike mob ugliness- of any political persuasion. Thanks for weighing in though, and if you agree with the OP, please consider a rec. I know this thead won't be able to compete with the thread that's cheering on the booing, but I'd like to see it get wider exposure.

[Alamom]

7. r

[Inuca]

10. Agree

Not enough coffee yet to comment more meaningfully, but 100% agree. Nothing to do with who I ilke or dislike, mob mentality just makes me cringe, and is just plain wrong.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Weren't there posts here , the other day, suggesting she rigged the "Heartland" audience...Must not have done a good job...

[cali]

13. Didn't see those

but really it's the mob mentality on DU re Clinton that I find... interesting. Never get in the way of a mob and their perceived boogeyperson.

[William769]

14. Cali, I'll give you a K&R we may not agree on a lot but you always seem fair in your assessments

And I commend you for that.

[cali]

15. Thanks, William

Maybe it's not being invested in any one candidate, that helps me be objective. Then again, maybe it's that I really dislike the mob mentality- particularly when it's about going after someone.

[Adelante]

18. I hate the booing of our candidates

I hated it in Nevada and I hated it in Iowa. People who find joy in this sort of thing might consider, one day it's my candidate and another day it's yours, and that goes for just about every unpleasant situation a candidate might encounter on the trail.

[cali]

19. yep, and if ever there was proof of hate toward Clinton

it's the gleeful reaction of some here on a couple of theads applauding this behavior.

[DURHAM D]

20. I agree with your comments and add -

it hurts the cause of the group holding the forum. That kind of boorish behavior marginalizes (in this case) the B/B activists because it is clear they don't understand the process. Acting like children distracts from the cause. Very sad.

In the other debates the booing was not totally unexpected and was simply partisan. This incident was in no way helpful for those who really need to gain more political status.

[robbedvoter]

21. Agree. I watched the audience at the GOP CNN debate. A few on the edges

doing all the booing/applauding - while in the middle - most stood motionless. It made me feel that all the reactions I heard (right of wrong) didn't really represent the GOP base - but rather candidates groupies. I assume it's the case on our side as well.
I for one wouldn't bother going to an event of someone I don't support.

[Kucinich4America]

22. Hillary was booed because her answer was a copout.

And the audience wasn't buying it.

[Bongo Prophet]

24. I think some in the audience just didn't like her answer. That happens in politics.

It was just a brief smattering, at least what I saw live on c-span.
I also don't think it was a copout- she said she wouldn't achieve a "comprehensive immigration reform" package in the first 100 days.

to me it was better for her to be honest than to lie and pander, and there is NO way she could guarantee a promise like that - it is a slow legislative process at best.
With the GOP demagoguing that all the way, it might not happen at all, or the end result would be crap. What would she do then?
"Oh, you broke your pledge"

Plus, the GOP would benefit greatly by a promise like that from her - and try to beat her with it.
She didn't walk into that trap.

I thought Dennis did great that day, by the way. Invited them all to sleep in the Lincoln bedroom. Great moment.
Something to consider - wouldn't it be better to focus on healthcare, Iraq and foreign policy as highest priorities?
We may differ on that, but amicably.

Overall, it was an interesting day.

[NC_Nurse]

25. I agree. Booing is rude and immature.

Just don't applaud - silence can be deafening.