OK Hillary haters, if she wins in Iowa what's your next move?

[Mountainman]

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

1. allege widespread voter fraud

[Clintonista2]

11. Yup, I've already called it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3749594

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. Same As If She Loses IA

Her and Senator Obama duke it out until or through Super Tuesday...

[mike_c]

3. no "next move"-- my ONLY move is to not vote for HRC, ever, period....

I don't care what she does from this point out. HRC will never get my vote.

Well, never unless she repudiates her support for the war against Iraq, takes back all the neocon foreign policy propaganda she's parroted, pledges support for single payer universal health care reform, works to impeach the war criminals Cheney and Bush, pledges to arrest the war criminals and ship them off to the Hague, works to revoke corporate personhood, etc. Hell, those sorts of changes would make my NEXT move unconditional support for the Hillster.

Otherwise, no.

[aquart]

14. So democracy is only YOU deciding everything?

The majority vote of your party (should it be Hillary) will be nothing to you?

Because, which candidate is it, WILL give you everything you want? Is Obama going to do these things? Is Edwards? Will you vote for them for president? If so, why only the woman candidate is too too terrible?

Can't wait for your answer.

[Joe the Revelator]

23. My GOD! You're going to try to paint his refusal to vote for your candidate as sexist???

This is so laughable. It's like the Bush loyalty oaths even MORE disgusting.

[Andy823]

24. Not a gender thing

If the "right" woman was running, I would vote for her. I voted for three women in my state for congress, in the senate and the house, it does not matter what gender she is, it matters what she says, or in Hillary's case, doesn't say, about the issues.

It also matters who one conducts themselves in the race. Going back to "kindergarten" and the third grade to attack Obama just doesn't really cut it with me! I am not an obama supporter, but come on kindergarten?????????

No, it's the "person" I vote for, and she just won't be getting my vote. Not because she is a woman, but because she is "NOT" the right candidate for the nomination.

[mike_c]

26. the majority vote of the democratic party has NOTHING to do...

...with MY vote. No political party controls my BIRTH RIGHT. Democracy is the sum of individual political action, not the lockstep march of party voterbots.

That is my answer.

[Reno.Muse]

35. stop making women look stupid. I am a woman and the right woman candidate

would get my vote. Hillary is not the right woman candidate. She is Clinton White House Redux DLC supreme.

[Lerkfish]

58. you know, this type of bullshit accusation does not help

anything.

[Bucky]

4. My guess is there'd be a lot fewer "Hillary Haters" if Hillary supporters acted less like pricks.

If you really want to know the answer to your question, you'd help your candidate win in Iowa. Your agenda instead seems to be taunting over the internet people whom you'll never meet in the real world.

Is your life really that empty that this is how you spend your spare time?

[Tesha]

7. They take their cues from their candidate. (NT)

[aquart]

9. Who has never once behaved as less than a lady.

You might want to look without the fog of propaganda and irrational hatred.

And inquire deeply as to its cause.

[Lerkfish]

16. its hard to do that when you keep spewing that fog of propaganda and

irrational hatred. Maybe if you'd stop doing that so much, we could see the truth instead.

what a concept. This whole op is flamebait designed to castigate anyone who doesn't support your candidate.

how irrational is that? why do we have to be loyal to YOUR candidate? are you loyal to anyone else's?

[TwilightZone]

17. I thought that you were leaving. n/t

[Lerkfish]

19. why? would that make it more comfortable to start flamebait threads like this?

do we hate to have mirrors held up to our own behavior?

how about answering the question:

a valid one:

why insist others be loyal to your own candidate?

[TwilightZone]

28. Why did I think you were leaving?

Well, because you said so. Swan song and all that.

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[Tesha]

46. Thank you for making my point. Your allegiance to the truth is much like your candidate's. (NT)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. I Thought We Liberals Shouldn't Paint With A Broad Brush

DSB

[Bucky]

15. Which DU have you been reading?

Anyway, the body of my comments focused on the original poster not all of Clinton's supporters. It was a dumb, useless post designed to taunt and divide, rather than discuss the election. The poster needed to be told so and so I did.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. Couldn't You Have Told Him Without Blasting All Senator Clinton's Supporters

DSB

[Bucky]

25. I see your point.

The body of my message singled out the OP as an individual. When I first tried to word the subject line (which is where I use the plural "supporters") I orginally used the singular. But that left my subject line too long to fit in the number of characters I needed for the singular construction. So I edited down the verbage in the headline to make my whole point fit there. It's a fluke of the English language that plurals take up less space.

I assumed that the direct personal address in the body of my post would make it clear I wasn't going after all Clinton supporters. I was wrong. I didn't use the word "all", but I should've worded it more clearly.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. I Don't Like Taunting

I also didn't like when a certain Obama supporter started a thread comparing HRC to the Titanic...Sounds like premature celebration... A "Mission Accomplished" moment, if you will...

[Beacool]

12. I see many more Obama than Hillary supporters

in this board and I've also read many more posts bashing Hillary than any other candidate. So, I don't understand the complaint. :shrug:

[Bucky]

18. I meet Clinton supporters in real life. I meet Obama supporters in real life. None are assholes.

I love DU. Right now it's suffering from an asshole infestation. Excuse me for stomping on some bugs.

[Lerkfish]

13. bravo! way to speak truth to ugliness

they always post these litmus loyalty tests about their OWN candidate. As if we are required to be loyal to THEIR candidate.
if they really want to conduct a loyalty test, the question should be "what will WE do when our candidate doesn't win?"

[Cha]

38. We're just called "hillary haters"

because they have no defense on her policies. When ya got nothing you attack with yur fooking red herrings, strawmen, and your other basic distractions.

hillary's has nothing, either. What would you have after supporting bushit for 7 years?

[Tejanocrat]

5. to Canada?

[Tesha]

6. Vote against her in New Hampshire, of course! (NT)

[zulchzulu]

10. Why do you have to use the childish "Hillary haters" garbage?

Do you understand politics? If someone prefers another candidate, do they HATE the others? In most cases, no.

What would be my "next move" if Clinton won Iowa (which she will place third or fourth in)? I'd continue to do what I could from a grassroots level to make sure Obama won the next states. What would people who support other candidates do? Hopefully, they would do the same thing.

Stop with the "hater" card. It's tacky.

[Tesha]

47. When the facts are on your side, argue the facts.

> Why do you have to use the childish "Hillary haters" garbage?

When the facts are on your side, argue the facts.
When the facts aren't on your side, argue the law.
When the law isn't on your side, argue personalities.

Thus, we get to "Hillary haters".

Tesha

[elizm]

21. Throw in the towel if she goes on to be the nominee. I will not vote. nt

[nradisic]

22. Ain't Gonna happen....

Edwards or Obama will win Iowa.

[madrchsod]

29. i`ll keep criticizing her on things that i disagree with

if she wins and if she becomes president. i`ll do the same no matter who the president is because that is my right as a citizen of the united states.

[Catherine Vincent]

30. They'll continue hating. nt

[Catchawave]

31. I don't hate hillary, geesh....

Though I'll be saving a lot of time, trouble and money, and staying home til election day.

Much luck to her :toast:

[Dawgs]

32. Hope that Edwards and Obama work together as running mates to defeat her.

[MethuenProgressive]

33. Claim she bussed in more out-state-students to caucus then you did

and cry that she stole your idea...

[Reno.Muse]

34. not vote for her ...and hope Ron Paul or someone else runs as an Independent

[IndianaGreen]

36. If Hillary finishes third in Iowa, as she is likely to do, what will you do?

Are you going to characterize as "Hillary haters" the Iowans that did not caucus for her?

[Mountainman]

59. I will vote for the Dem candidate no matter who it is. If you don't vote you give the repub

a better chance at winning.

[Snarkturian Clone]

37. I start stumping for my cat.

Vote Mowberg 08

[JeanGrey]

39. I'll try to get used to losing the election.

[Life Long Dem]

40. Why do you say hate? When it's her stand on the issues that most are concerned with.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

41. I will know that Americans are overly susceptible to shallow 'horse race'

reporting of political campaigns and don't have the sense to look behind the candidates' facades.

[Colobo]

42. I'll be here.

[yellowcanine]

43. Could we stop with the "Hillary hater, lover, "etc. rhetoric? We are all Democrats. If we

really want to defeat the Republicans we are going to have to eventually unite behind one candidate. Polarizing rhetoric now makes that more difficult.

[Nailzberg]

44. Sweden.

Okay, not right after IA. Probably not until the convention.

[BeyondGeography]

45. LOL...nailz it

[Perry Logan]

48. I think they should quit the party, like they keep promising to do.

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[Truth2Tell]

61. I'd be careful what you wish for... n/t

[zanne]

50. Do you have to title your post with flamebait?

Most of us aren't Hillary "haters";we just prefer another candidate. If Hillary wins Iowa, fine. If she wins NH, fine. I'll vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is. But I still love my man Obama.

[THUNDER HANDS]

51. I'm not a Hillary hater

but if she wins Iowa, it's over.

[Alter Ego]

52. Take it in steps.

1) Piss self in impotent rage.
2) Stomp around the room yelling obscenities and drinking from a half-empty bottle of vodka.
3) Cry for an hour about how you hated the other candidates anyway.
4) Change channel to "American Idol" and forget about politics.

[PVnRT]

54. Way to build bridges, Cochese

FAIL

[Sultana]

56. Continue to hate her...

and she wins the nomination then I'll maybe vote for in GE.

[BeyondGeography]

57. Mountainman, mtnsnake

Why do the mountain people hate Obama?

[Mountainman]

60. I don't hate Obama.