Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Dems need a fighter

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:05 PM
Original message
Dems need a fighter
BOSTON - I bow to no one in my distaste for food-fight politics. I don't want to dine with absolutists and ideologues hurling red meat at each other.

For that matter, I have long amused myself with visions of baby boomers carrying the same old conflicts into old age, dividing into pro- and anti-Vietnam nursing homes.

So I am drawn to the brand known as Generation Obama. This presidential candidate has repeatedly offered himself as the post-boomer, the one person in the race who can take us past the great divides of the last 40 years.

In announcing his candidacy, Obama used the word "generation" 13 times. In "The Audacity of Hope," he described boomer politics with something close to disdain as a psychodrama "rooted in old grudges and revenge plots hatched on a handful of college campuses long ago." On TV, he described Hillary Clinton and others as people who've "been fighting some of the same fights since the '60s."


http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071206/EDIT/712060309/1003
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:10 PM
Response to Original message
1. The Dems have barack Obama, what do you live under Iraq???
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:46 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. Well that's fucking rude.
God forbid someone question St. Obama.

:eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. God forbid if someone questions Queen Hillary the Great!
OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. If that was the case ..
there would be plenty of headless around here. But that wouldn't make much of a difference anyway.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:14 PM
Response to Original message
2. A major problem I have with Obama is that he seems to be saying that
his way to victory and of governing will be to make too many compromises with (or total capitulation to) those who have been running things since (and before) the 60s. In a rose-colored view of what America is supposed to be, he does not clearly see the reality of Amerika 2007.

He believes the repugs can be dealt with as honest teammates in Team America.

He is willing to sacrifice far too much (gay rights, corporate control of the US, etc.) to occupy the Oval Office with his brand of Pollyanna politics.

This is a war we are in. And the enemy is not partisanship or "old battles" that keep us apart, but rather, the destructive goals of the GOP. Until he realizes that and fights accordingly, he will be another DINO.

Not what we need.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:29 PM
Response to Original message
3. Unfortunately
Obama's "generational" talk is what really turned me off. To be so dismissive of a generation that brought about breakthroughs in civil rights and women's rights was offensive to someone who was THERE and remembers what it was like before the sixties and seventies.

These are not "old" fights. If we take for granted the rights we've attained, we could easily lose them again. When I'm dead and gone, then people can say me and my generation were of little consequence, but until then, we are still strong in numbers and have good memories.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Same here - his generational war really pisses me off.
As does his homophobia.

Of all the Dem candidates he would be the one I would have the most difficult time voting for in a general election.

Yesterday I had a dentist appointment. I love my dentist and his wife. In the parking lot I spotted an Obama sticker and thought it was my dentist's car. When I got inside I asked him if that was his car and his immediate response was - "God no, I can't vote for him - he hates me (he is 60 yrs old) and my gay son."

I told him I was relieved because after twenty years I didn't want to find a new dentist but I would.

It turns out he supports Biden and his wife supports Hillary.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. Your dentist and wife are un-hip
and corporatist slime. Prawns of the DLC.

:sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. That was the first time I ever posted a really angry message
at DU. I was livid for days. He dismissed an entire generation as if we were irrelevant. It was terribly rude, considering that he and his generation have reaped the rewards of that era. It was also incredibly stupid.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. Exactly...
and I think US baby boomers are in the majority in this election, so I hope we all vote.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. It may be our last chance to make a real difference
before we all become senile or dead!

We've come too far to go backwards, and for all our faults, we deserve a little more recognition than that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. I'm a so-called boomer.
and I'm looking for change.

It wasn't the baby boomers who were at the forefront of the civil rights movement. That started before that generation was born. Get your facts straight.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 03rd 2024, 06:00 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC