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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:03 PM
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I love DU
Obama proudly admits that he has used drugs. It is then correctly pointed out that this will be used against him in a General election. The heads of the ObamaNation supporters explode. These are the same people who are posting "Did Hillary really kill Vince Foster?" topics. It's not raining, so why are your faces so wet?
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:05 PM
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1. Thou shalt not blaspheme against the almighty Obama
by pointing out his weaknesses in the general election!
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. I swear I saw him walking on water the other day
It turns out it was just his very transparent supporters.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:09 PM
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11. Before I joined DU, I was an observer. I remember...
what happened to those who did not support the "almighty" Howard Dean. It wasn't very nice. If you didn't support Dean, you were either a "FReeper", a corporate tool, or a warmonger.

Somethings never change.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:05 PM
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2. Once again Lirwin misses the point of everything.
Good job Lirwin, you're batting 1.000.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Poor Walsh is just angry that his vince foster topic got locked
:(
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:07 PM
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8. Not as mad as I;d be if I was a Hillary supporter
To see someone I had invested so much time in defending, completely throw away her chances would make me angry as well.

Also, who is Walsh?
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:09 PM
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You've been claiming the demise of the Clinton campaign for months now
:(
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:10 PM
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16. And it appears I was right from the beginning
Whats your point?
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:11 PM
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19. My point is...
Mr.Wolsh is not too good at predicting the outcome of things. That's probably why he thinks Obama is going to win.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #19
24. If we're going by reality....
they should change my screename to Nostrodamus.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #2
15. Lirwin hates everything that's not named Hillary.
n/t
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. Ahh there he is!
Our resident foamer!
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:06 PM
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4. "proudly admits" ... that's some stretching of the truth
not a surprise coming from a Clinton supporter
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:06 PM
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6. you do realize clinton campaign has issued an apology, yes?
so, you're now disagreeing with your own candidate.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. Hey Lerk, some of us are able to disagree with our candidates
It's called "freedom of thought."
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:28 PM
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38. you know, I'd never think of crediting you for being a supporter of
free thinking.

shows you how wrong I am.


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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:29 PM
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41. Am I put on the "complicity watch" list yet?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #41
46. aww, you're sweet.
and thoughtful.

have a great holiday.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:48 AM
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50. Thanks, you too. Though I can never understand people who
complain about NOT being banned from a website. Why wouldn't they simply stop going to the website?
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:26 AM
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54. Even better are the people who say they're leaving DU...
and they storm off in a blaze of glory...and then come right back.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #54
56. ahhh.... you guys LOVE me, you REALLY LOVE me
how precious
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #56
57. The word "people" is plural.
Not everything is about you, as much as you'd like to believe otherwise.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:11 PM
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59. Donchya just love those farewell threads?
"I've had it. I'm leaving DU and blah blah blah. OK, now everyone can tell me how much they're gonna miss me or how I shouldn't leave."

Hell, anyone who really wants to leave DU is just gonna leave without broadcasting it in the form of some sympathy seeking thread.

Just the same, I gotta admit that some of those farewell threads are kind of funny, sappy as they are. lol
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #59
61. Nono, he made the farewell thread on his other website
About how he was finally leaving the horrible evil DU, and asked the mods to have his account banned. The mods didn't ban his account, so he bitched and bitched and then began posting on DU again. What an interesting life he must have :rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 03:11 PM
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62. I always know when I've struck a nerve
the hillbot thugs gang up on me in force and just derail threads attacking me personally.

interesting that you break all sorts of DU rules but nothing ever happens to you? I assume there must be differing standards here.

interesting, isnt' it?


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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #62
64. My comedy nerve, yes
Because I've never seen anybody get so e-raged in my life.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:56 PM
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #66
67. ...
:rofl:
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:28 PM
Response to Reply #64
68. "e-raged"
Bwahaha!
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #68
69. Go take a look at the rage-fest on his other site
...if you can stand to lose a few IQ points.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #69
70. Been there, done that.
And to think that DUers are the ones often accused of "group think".
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:43 PM
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No kidding
I'd be willing to geuss that you're banned based on who you support, kinda like Freerepublic. I've never seen anybody banned on DU because they do/don't support a candidate. The problem that they have with DU is that it's not banning members who support so-called "centrist" candidates. It reminds me of the "non-conformists" on south park. You can only belong to their "non-conformist" group if you conform to their ideas :rofl:
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:51 PM
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72. Frankly, I don't get the whole "centrist" thing.
Dennis Kucinich wins pretty much every DU candidate poll. Other polls routinely show that most DUers are well to the left on many, many issues. The responses to the Political Compass polls showed that the vast majority of DUers fall in the lower left quadrant.

And, yet, DU is too "centrist" to these people? In what universe?

The constant claims "over there" that the place has been taken over by centrists are ridiculously inaccurate. Laughingly so.

Your South Park reference is a good one. That sums it up quite nicely.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 03:20 PM
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63. SNAP!
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #63
65. I guess somebody pissed on the fire
:)
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #6
12. for killing Foster?




























i'm kidding!
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:09 PM
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13. An "apology"? Do tell... (words have meanings)
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:11 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. See thread:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:18 PM
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32. Billy Shaheen says his words were not the campaign's, so the clinton campaign issued no apology
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:20 PM
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34. Give me a break
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. That was substantive
Is your avatar picture depicting the inside of your head? :rofl::rofl:
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:28 PM
Response to Reply #36
40. I'm about to make blanket statement....
Hillary supporters have the worst sense of humor of any other camp on DU.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #6
44. Some of us are mature enough
to support a candidate without having to march in lockstep behind her.
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:06 PM
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7. Did he *proudly* admit that?
It's a real question, this is the first time that I've heard that he was proud about it.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:09 PM
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10. Who ever said HRC murdered Vince Foster?
The only thing the Clinton's have helped kill is the middle class.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:12 PM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:15 PM
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:09 PM
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14. As a John Edwards Supporter...
Edited on Wed Dec-12-07 10:11 PM by BeatleBoot
I just love me popcorn.


:popcorn:


And an ice cold Vernor's Ginger Ale


:spray:







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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:12 PM
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21. Why did Shaheen apologize?
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #21
23. Don't ask me
Unlike another certain cultish group, I don't have to agree with my candidate 100% of the time.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:15 PM
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27. Because he was wrong.
Ummm, you do agree 100% of the time. I'd love to see a recent post where you didn't. I've never seen one.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:16 PM
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28. He was wrong? You don't think that it will be used against him in a GE?
Wow, it really is a cult.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:28 PM
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39. Your candidates campaign apologized.
And so far, you don't acknowledge what they did was wrong even though the campaign you support does. Talk about hypocrisy on your part. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3828846
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:30 PM
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42. Billy Shaheen says his words were not the campaign's, therefore there was no apology
Try again.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:34 PM
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43. Shaheen is the co-chair of Hillary's New Hampshire campaign and he apologized
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:35 PM
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45. I'm still waiting for Obama's McClurkin apology
Or does Jesus not apologize?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #23
33. So you agree with Hillary and her surrogates all the time...
except when they are (pretending to be) civil.

Don't be a hater playa.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:12 PM
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22. In the words of William Daniels as John Adams, "I have such a desire to knock heads together!"
I wish all the ardent Obamans and Hillarians (as well as the more obnoxious apostles of Joe "The Other White Meat" Biden and John Edwards) would agree to some kind of truce. I feel like the music to West Side Story is going to swell any moment now. (It was
a musical theatre night, what can I say?)
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #22
31. "The Sharks and The Jets" - Too funny!!!!

:rofl:




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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:14 PM
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25. Fast and loose with the truth again, I see.
Edited on Wed Dec-12-07 10:26 PM by silverweb
"Proudly admits," huh?

(1) He wrote about this in his autobiography, published in 1995, before he ever decided to run for public office.

(2) He was a kid at the time, and he talks about feeling lost and confused about who he was, and cites his drug experimentation as a negative.

(3) He has talked to groups of youngsters about the lessons learned during that time in his life, turning his negative experience into a positive lesson for today's kids.

(4) Virtually all successful drug rehab counselors are former users or addicts themselves, yet rehab counselors are held in high esteem in our society because they overcame their problems, and they are not badgered about those earlier mistakes.

There are no "heads exploding," in the Obama camp, but we certainly do take strong exception to swiftboating tactics from another Democrat, who should certainly know better.

As for the Vince Foster thing, I haven't seen a single comment about that before yours, so you'll have to show me.

On Edit: I just saw your link to the "Vince Foster" post. The _OP_ is obvious parody of similar posts from the Clinton camp about Obama's teenage drug use. It certainly does not qualify as a resurrection of the old "scandal," and this is just more distortion and misrepresentation on your part.

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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:17 PM
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29. Hey, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with what Obama did
I'm saying that you're delusional if you don't see this as a liability in a GE. And the vince foster topic: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3828083&mesg_id=3828083
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #29
35. See my edited post.
Edited on Wed Dec-12-07 10:28 PM by silverweb
And I'm not delusional. You're distortional.

On Edit: No, I dont' see it as a GE liability. Because thanks to your candidate, this is all being thoroughly aired and cleared out of the way well in advance and people will just roll their eyes if the reTHUGs try to make an issue out of it again. So... thanks!

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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:17 PM
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30. I'm neither a Hillary or a Obama supporter, but this drug bullshit is ridiculous.
Particularly coming from Mrs. "I Didn't Inhale" Herself. I'm assuming she was somewhere near by when Bill was "not inhaling". Was she inhaling, or "not" inhaling herself?? Seems like just as much of a valid question. At least if you're enough of a hypocrite to think that ANYBODY who grew up in the fucking 60's didn't try a few recreational chemicals.

I'll bet everyone in the Democratic Primary AND the Republican Primary has tried at least 2 "illegal" drugs when they were younger. Yes, even Saint Willard Mittens of the Planet Kolob.

Can we get the fuck over it already?? And while we're at it, LEGALIZE the fucking drugs already, treat addiction as a chemical problem, and save the prisons for REAL criminals. Like the neocons.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #30
37. Best post tonight!
"Yes, even Saint Willard Mittens of the Planet Kolob." :D

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 11:41 PM
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47. Enjoy your race to the gutter.
I've had it with the overpaid K-Streeters and the rogue Rove wannabes. I can only hope that Iowans see it the same way and tank anyone who allows themselves to be handled by these yutzes. Nothing against the candidates, but as a statement to this brand of politics that seems to get rewarded time and time again.

We are entertaining ourselves to death.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 11:43 PM
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48. Does anyone here like both Clinton and Obama?
I do. Am I the only one who likes them both?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 11:48 PM
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49. yes. I mean no you are not the only one.
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 12:03 AM by Jim4Wes
I have been an Obama admirer since the Dem Convention in 04. My only concern has been winning this election with our strongest candidate.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #48
60. I used to. Until Obama got in bed with the bigot wing of his church.
I once thought we'd run a Clinton/Obama ticket and beat the snot out of the GOP.
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Josiah1982 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:53 AM
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51. the coke thing will be a drag on Obama if he's the nominee
there's just no way that republicans won't exploit it.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:55 AM
Response to Reply #51
52. Uh oh, don't get caught saying that on DU!
The Obamanation will accuse you of being a republican operative.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #51
71. Hows it working out for hillary so far
nice of her to test it out for them.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:17 AM
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53. actually, I've reconsidered. I think you SHOULD keep up this negative attack strategy
in fact, I think you should increase it. Go big or go home!
I mean, come up with the most vile things possible! go for it! It reflects well on your candidate!

it'll make HRC unstoppable!

keep going! bravo!
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:26 AM
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55. Ah the retraction at work...
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 01:28 AM by rAVES
positively slimy move by the Clinton Campaign.. honestly I'd probably be more disgusted about the fact they retracted it.
Spineless and hypocritical.. does anybody believe this isn't a premeditated move?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:10 PM
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58. You couldn't have missed the point of the Foster thread by anymore if you tried.
Try thinking for half a minute and stop acting just the whiners you keep whining about.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:58 PM
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73. How to topics like this get the number of recs they do?
Sometimes I love DU, too... It makes me want to shake my head like one of those Jar Jar characters in Star Wars.

This one starts off with the OP starts pulling down their pants down to shoot a moon at their nemesis. I've never heard anyone proudly admit drug use. Is the choice, "ObamaNation" used to conjure up visions of Louis Farrakhan's nation of Islam? Why to you have to defend HRC from having VF killed? That story has been debunked. If you want to see a vice of Obama, it should be his cigarette smoking- not good. He inhales, too.

Hell, I'm not even in the audience to weigh in on the HRC/OB steel cage match, I like Kucinich... but you people are "something else".

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