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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:07 PM
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Will Obama put a stop to the anti-Hillary e-mail smear campaign?
According to ObamaNation all smears start at the top, so when will Obama put a stop to these emails?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2007/dec/12/commie-email-quiz-gets-failing-grade/
An anonymous e-mail makes the case that Sen. Clinton holds the same beliefs as Karl Marx and Josef Stalin by using communist-sounding quotes.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/130/
Clinton "refused repeated requests to meet with the Gold Star Mothers."
Chain e-mail on Wednesday, October 17th, 2007 in an e-mail message circulated by many people.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/131/
"The Clintons now charge the Secret Service $10,000 monthly rent for the use of (a) Secret Service residence and that rent is just about equal to their mortgage payment."
Chain e-mail on Monday, September 17th, 2007 in an e-mail message circulated by many people

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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:10 PM
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1. How dare you imply that Lord Obama is behind this!
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 12:11 PM by MNDemNY
He walks on water and is "above the fray" You must be a racist.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:23 PM
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12. Someone got banned for what you said
Just the other day.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:25 PM
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15. For sarcasm?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:29 PM
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21. Too much Lord Obama BS.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:30 PM
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22. .
:crazy:
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:57 PM
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37. The babies want dissent to be banned
How surprising... not.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:07 PM
Response to Reply #37
40. Most of them have an ignore list the size of a phone book.
Ignorance is bliss?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:27 PM
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46. I think everyone who said they were putting me on ignore in the past...
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 01:27 PM by MethuenProgressive
have flamed me today. It's a funny place, ObamaNation.
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 03:07 PM
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52. Who got banned?
And what exactly did they say against Obama?

I only ask because it seems that DU moderators have allowed ANYTHING to be said against the "evil", "low-class", "two-faced", "sociopathic", "filthy", "evil" "bitch" Hillary, for months on end. (Those come from a handful of threads over the course of just about an hour of casual reading a couple of weeks ago.)

I literally cannot imagine what possible insult to Obama could earn even just a warning given what DU moderators have countenanced against Hillary - constantly - over the course of almost an entire year.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:08 PM
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54. I wish I could rec this post.
:thumbsup:
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:12 PM
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2. 2001?
One of those started in 2001. I don't see anything in the link that says Obama campaign is circulating them. Is there more info somewhere?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:18 PM
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4. Obama started sending emails about Hillary when he was in kindergarten
:sarcasm:

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:45 PM
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49. LOL!!
:toast:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:21 PM
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10. Just a pathetic attempt to muddy the waters, from a backer of a failing campaign.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:35 PM
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25. How's Biden doing?
As a Richardson backer, I feel your pain.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:37 PM
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29. Well, I'm sure.
How's his campaign doing? Eesh. Love the guy, but 'intelligent, competent foreign policy' doesn't rile up a crowd.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:42 PM
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32. "'intelligent, competent foreign policy' doesn't rile up a crowd"
Yeah. I can relate.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:17 PM
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3. Did you get the memo that there are a LOT of people who don't like the Clintons?
Of course, why not blame every story on the Obama campaign if it makes you feel good. After all, it's pretty bad news for the Clinton camp these days...

I would suggest that the anti-Clinton stuff out there is a billion dollar industry. if you wanna LIE and say it's all coming from Obama fans, then enjoy your delusion.

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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:20 PM
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7. I think that is the point
Which is completely lost on most of the Obamaheads.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:20 PM
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8. Are you enjoying your delusion?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:23 PM
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13. One of these was from 2001, and all have been circulating around RW networks, not
LW ones. Why would Obama attempt to lower Hillary's popularity among Republicans? That simply makes no sense whatsoever. You guys are really, really reaching.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:26 PM
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17. Nailed it...
It's like watching a dazed boxer flailing at thin air hoping for a hit before falling to the mat...
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:26 PM
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18. Who is "you guys"??
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:27 PM
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19. You and MethuenProgressive.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:28 PM
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20. Occam...
"You guys are really, really reaching"
I'm not reaching. I'm mocking.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:31 PM
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23. It's lost on many.
:toast:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:36 PM
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27. Yes, I know. And your point is completely bogus.
Unless I've totally misread you, you're mocking the Hillary-directed uproar at the email smears originating in the Clinton campaign. In order to do so, you point at e-mail slander originating--and circulating--entirely among freepers. In order for your mockery to work, you're painting the issue as the emails rather than the source of the emails, and that is an incredible reach.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:38 PM
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31. My point, Occam, was made in the first nine words of the OP.
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 12:41 PM by MethuenProgressive
"According to ObamaNation all smears start at the top,"
Sorry the razor was too sharp for you.

edit added the 'nine words' because I had to go back and count them anyway so I wouldn't get flamed for poor math.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:42 PM
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33. And that isn't the Obama campaign's point. Their point is that all
actions originating from a campaign start at (or at least are condoned by) the top of that campaign. To claim that the issue was "all smears are the responsibility of your best-polling opponent" is a reach.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:08 PM
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41. Are you sure "ObamaNation" is one word?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:16 PM
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44. My spellchecker wants to make it:
"Abomination" :rofl:
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:17 PM
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45. That fits.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:19 PM
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5. accusing hillary of being a communist? who accuses her of being a liberal?
even the latter is wacko.
she is a true-blue, corporatist.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:20 PM
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9. Conservatives are convinced she's a communist.
Liberals are convinced she's a corporatist.

Neither are supported by her voting record.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:24 PM
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14. Only because they can't spell socialist.
Liberals, however, are wicked good spellers.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:34 PM
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24. Though, apparently, some struggle with reading comprehension.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:48 PM
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36. i think you mistake your rudeness for cleverness
pathetic, really
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:19 PM
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6. Wow. A gyroscope's got nothing on the Clinton campaign.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:22 PM
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11. What does that have to do with Obama? None of the articles say those came from his campaign
Why are you being so dishonest?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:25 PM
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16. Moreover, they're all only appealing to freepers. Why would Obama want to suggest
that Clinton was more liberal during the primaries?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:35 PM
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26. Another Pathetic attempt by Team Hillary to deflect attention
nt
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:37 PM
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28. I think this guy supports Richardson.
But he knows what we all know. Richardson is pathetically inept.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:34 PM
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55. Damn right. Because 2013 Is Too Late.
www.2013IsTooLate.com
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:37 PM
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30. Here's help
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:43 PM
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34. Hee hee! Stupid man, all stuffed with straw.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 12:43 PM
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35. Will Methuen"Progressive" put a stop to his Obama smear obsession?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:34 PM
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48. Obama is not ObamaNation, dionysus
And little that can be said about ObamaNation is a smear.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:04 PM
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38. Hillary just apologized for comments she neither made nor authorized, Where's Obama's apology?
Hasn't it been long enough?
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:09 PM
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42. Blasphemy!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:07 PM
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39. Are any of those from his campaign, or just random emails?
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:13 PM
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43. Members of the Clinton Campaign Have Been Traced to Smears
These are random yahoos and the Clinton supporters are just trying pathetically to muddy the waters - like always - by saying other people commit the unethical tactics of the Clinton campaign.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:31 PM
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47. Reminds me of Dick Nixon. No matter what he did, his excuse was
the other guy did it first!




Thus, when Dick Tuck had a bunch of pregnant women at a campaign stop wave signs with Nixon's slogan (Nixon's the One), Nixon remembered and used that "Dirty trick" to justify the Watergate break in.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 01:57 PM
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50. I thought that was a Laugh-in skit!
TV was much better back when I was a pup...
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 02:37 PM
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51. I figured as much. Par for the OP's course.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 03:42 PM
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53. In debate, Obama ignores the email smear campaign against Clinton.
He had his chance to denounce it. Why wouldn't he?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:39 PM
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 04:42 PM
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57. Thanks for the kick!
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 04:43 PM by MethuenProgressive
Now, go read the first nine words of the OP and post #20.
Then hit alert all you want.
:kick:
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