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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:49 PM
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Can someone please point me to the America which would vote for...
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 05:52 PM by The Night Owl
Can someone please point me to the America which would vote for a presidential candidate who admits to having used hard drugs? The America I live in has a huge element of religious zealots, squares, and blue hairs in the population who would never in a million years vote for a candidate who admits to having used hard drugs.

For crying out loud... The right wing attack machine had no qualms about accusing a war hero of fraudulently attaining medals, but more importantly, the accusation, though baseless, gained traction amongst millions of Americans zombified by Rush Limbaugh, Shawn Hannity, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Fox News, etc.. One can imagine what the right wing attack machine would do to Barack Obama if he were the Democratic nominee.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:53 PM
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1. Well, Bush used drugs...
he got elected. Err, selected.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:55 PM
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4. Most of the fools who voted for GWB do not believe...
Most of the fools who voted for GWB do not believe that he was a cocaine user.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:57 PM
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7. The Op does use the word" admits"
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:01 PM
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9. Oh, I think they do...they just didn't care.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:53 PM
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2. You mean a black teen sampled some IranContra cocaine dumped in black communities by Poppy Bush?
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 05:55 PM by blm
Oh my....let's open those books and see EXACTLY how a young black teen accessed that cheap IranContra cocaine that Poppy Bush was dumping by the TONS into black communities all over the country in the 80s and 90s.

And let's hear about those Democrats who protected Poppy Bush's secrecy and privilege on those CIA drugrunning operations throughout the 90s.

Yes - let's HAVE this debate.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:05 PM
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10. yes, indeed, poppy dumped cheap cocaine
in an elite prep school in Hawaii. Don't know much about Obama, do you?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:10 PM
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12. Sure I do - and also know this argument will work against the GOPs better than any other.
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 06:22 PM by blm
Surely you wouldn't mind the opportunity to air some hard truths about Poppy Bush's dumping of tons of cheap IranContra cocaine into black communities during the 80s and 90s?

I see a great opportunity to keep bringing it up until all you get for a reply is a feeble sputter.

BTW - what makes you think Hawaii didn't get any of that IranContra cocaine that was so available back then?

FYI - I saw blow in sugar bowls at dinner parties in Hawaii. I also know for a fact the blow came from LA as did most of the guests on that vacation.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:54 PM
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3. Those people are outnumbered
and even they experimented in their youth, whether it was with Mom's cigs when they were 10 or Dad's beer when they were 15. The ones who would look down on Obama for doing the same are the ones who have never come to terms with their own youth.

Pity them. Besides, healthy people really do outnumber them.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:55 PM
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5. Your right, we are more apt to elect someone who lies about it, rather than admits to it.
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 05:56 PM by MNDemNY
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:56 PM
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6. From another thread, so I don't have to repeat myself
So very, very many people have kids, young or grown, who did drugs at some time in their lives, or did drugs themselves. They and their kids grew up and became respectable contributors to society, were educated, even if later, hold jobs or professions, are raising their families. Here is an ordinary boy who became a successful man, reaching a great height in American public life, with a beautiful and stable family life. Others were not so fortunate or not so strong and, yes, there have been many drug tragedies in families, including my own, and a whole lot of voters still do drugs recreationally and manage their lives at the same time -- but it's a wonderful thing to see what is possible, for kids to see and for parents to see. Obama is a good role model. When parents with troubled kids or parents who have barely escaped tragedy look at him, I think that is what they see first. Anyone trying to turn something as ordinary as teenaged drug experimentation into a candidate negative is going to run into American common sense. The voters have been there. They know what it's about.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:45 AM
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20. It deserves repeating. Some points should be repeated as often as possible.
So it sticks - the way GOPs manage to make lies stick by repeating them faithfully.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:58 PM
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8. I think Americans are intent on getting the Republicans the hell out of power.
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 05:58 PM by Perry Logan
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:05 PM
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11. Obama has already largely neutered this attack
he'll do just fine if he's the nominee.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:51 AM
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21. Especially if Guiliani is their nominee n/t
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:10 PM
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13. Wow.. Limbaugh dissing someone for taking drugs in their past?

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BTW: You have been watching the news haven't you? ....These allegations are back-firing on the campaign who made them BIG TIME.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:51 PM
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16. Now they are backfiring because its Dem vs Dem.
If its the GOP vs Dem, its will be "troubling questions raised about Obama's past"

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:23 PM
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19. Yeah - lots of people tried Poppy Bush's cheap IranContra cocaine in the 80s and 90s.
That's why he had TONS OF IT DUMPED all over the country and especially into black communities.

Bring it.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:29 PM
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14. Most of the Republicans wouldn't vote for Obama, or any dem anyway
Especially the guys that listen to Rush.

I think Obama's honesty on the subject will be a plus.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:50 PM
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15. I am shocked...
that there is anyone between the ages of say 40-60 who has not had experience with drugs. Where do you all live?
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:55 PM
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17. The same one that voted for
George "I did a lot of things when I was 'young and irresponsible*'"* W. Bush

* Before the age of forty
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:55 PM
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18. I'd rather have a candidate who admitted to using them decades ago
Than one who lied about not only using drugs, but WHEN he last used them.

Which is what we have had for the last 7 years.

Whether the OP is a Hillbot a Freeper, or otherwise, this shit is ridiculous.

If you grew up in the 60's or any time after that, and claim that you never tried any drugs, I'd say there's about an 85% chance that you're a liar. And I really am tired of liars in my government.

Obama's not my candidate, but I applaud his honesty on this non-issue.
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