2008 Presidential Candidate Health Care Proposals: Side-by-Side Summary From The Kaiser Foundation

[1776Forever]

Source: The Kaiser Foundation Website

This side-by-side comparison of the candidates’ positions on health care was prepared by the Kaiser Family Foundation with the assistance of Health Policy Alternatives, Inc. and is based on information appearing on the candidates’ websites as supplemented by information from candidate speeches, the campaign debates and news reports. The sources of information are identified for each candidate’s summary (with links to the Internet). The comparison highlights information on the candidates’ positions related to access to health care coverage, cost containment, improving the quality of care and financing. Information will be updated regularly as the campaign unfolds.

Read more: http://www.health08.org/D-Side-By-Side-01_10_08.pdf

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This will give some guidelines to follow in commenting on proposed Health Care for all the Democratic candidates.

[displacedtexan]

1. Ahem.

Google is your friend:

Kaiser Permanente is an integrated managed care organization, based in Oakland, California, founded in 1945 by industrialist Henry J. Kaiser and physician Sidney R. Garfield. Kaiser Permanente is a consortium of three distinct groups of entities: the Kaiser Foundation Health Plan, Inc. and its regional operating organizations, Kaiser Foundation Hospitals, and the Permanente Medical Groups. As of 2006, Kaiser Permanente operates in nine states and Washington, D.C., and is the largest managed care organization in the United States. Kaiser Permanente has 8.5 million health plan members, 148,884 employees, 12,879 physicians, 37 medical centers, 400 medical offices, and $31.1 billion in annual operating revenues. The Health Plan and Hospitals operate under state and federal not-for-profit tax status, while the Medical Groups operate as for-profit partnerships or professional corporations in their respective regions.

Sorry, I wouldn't trust their analysis as far as I could throw it.

[pattmarty]

3. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.

[1776Forever]

4. This is just a prospectus of their proposals - I found it very extensive for what it is worth

Just a comparison - you can check it out in other areas.

[1776Forever]

10. There are links at the end of the articles that help to verify the information

If you don't want to read the prospectus you could use the references to check on the proposed programs. Most seem to be right from the candidates websites. I understand not being able to trust some sites.

[CountAllVotes]

14. Neither would I

frankly I think that Kaiser Permanente sucks!!! :puke:

[ihelpu2see]

2. Kucinich has the simplest most workable plan! Though Im supporting

Obama.

[Phred42]

5. From the Kaiser Foundation??!!!

I hope no one ASSUMES that this is going to be impartial and ACCURATE.

[1776Forever]

6. Health Care Issues - For what it is worth Kaiser gives excellent information to follow

OK - This is getting beat up because it is from Kaiser, which I can understand, but I suggest you take a look at it. I think it is very extensive and does seem to me to give the candidates issues on the subjects step-by-step. I have been following these issues for years now and Kaiser has some excellent links and open seminars on what is happening in the State and Federal political and private health care world. You cannot find all this information on your own unless you have a lot of time on your hands. I don't agree with 100% of what Kaiser reports but what website or organizations is there that you can?

[hedgehog]

7. Looking at the page layout, I already have to question this comparison's

value. For some reason, Kucinich and Gravel were included but Dodd and Biden were dropped. Thi sselection amd arrangement puts Obama on a seperate page from Clinton and Edwards. It'll take some real life printing, cutting and pasting to get an actual side-by-side comparison. Didn't anyone at Kaiser ever here of the landscape layout?

[1776Forever]

9. I believe Dodd and Biden had dropped out and so they didn't include their plans & also>>>

Make sure you have the latest Adobe Reader as my pdf document came up with Clinton, Edwards and Gravel on the first parts and the 2nd was for Kucinich and Obama. Hope that will help - also there are links at the bottom to the articles that this information was taken from which also will help to verify it.

[hedgehog]

13. That was my point - in order to get a true side -by-side you'd

have to print out the pages. Trying to read a side-by-side on the monitor will give you whiplash.

[OneBlueSky]

8. Kucinich's plan is the only one that makes any sense . . . n/t

[NikolaC]

11. Yup

Kucinich's plan is the best IMO.

[Bunkie0913]

12. Care with Kucinich

Dennis Kucinich is the candidate who has written detailed legislation H Res 676 for single payer healthcare, Medicare for all. His plan completely cuts out insurance companies and the very profitable system they have rigged. Kucinich was cut out of the AARP presidential forum because they make money from senior citizens buying supplements to the current failing system.
Did anyone else notice that when we clicked on this topic, the adds at the top of the page are Kaiser?

[Selatius]

15. Kucinich's plan will save the most money in the long-term view.

His is the best in terms of both saving money and insuring everyone.

[snooper2]

16. I just watched sicko last night...

and learned all about Mr. Kaiser. Guess it's a good thing otherwise I would not have known...

Oh yeah, fuck you Nixon...if I was close enough I would piss on your grave...

[Hulk]

17. Kucinich does the most for America...but scares the most Americans.

Dennis is brilliant and fearless. His ideas for America are what this country needs to become great. But there isn't a snowball's chance in hell that he could get it done in '08. I believe that it will take "a middle man" to move this country to see that we CAN DO things opposed to corporate interests, and THEN it's time for the real man to step forward.

Edwards, Obama or Hillary...can maybe move this country toward a direction to be able to take on these big interests, but if Dennis were the Democratic candidate for president, I honestly think the repugs would have a BETTER chance of winning the White House than the Dems. He would scare too many Democratic and Independent voters, and the repugs vote repug anyway, whether they have a candidate or the devil himself running.

Profit is all the repugs are worried about. "lower taxes, less government control, better opportunities to sell their widgets for more profit"

Political science is sooooo easy.