"if you can't run your own house, than you can't run the white house" - MIchelle Obama

[AGirl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN1qZMBE9Gc&feature=related


This is not very recent, but it is pretty nasty. Is it Hillary's fault that her husband cheated on her? Is it appropriate for her to make women feel guilty because their husbands cheated?

[Occam Bandage]

1. *facepalm*

[Pirate Smile]

2. That is so old and everybody finally agreed to a truce. Lame.

[fenriswolf]

3. no but it might show poor judgment

if you marry a man who is prone to cheating. just saying. I mean the guy who cheats is an ass hole and deserves whatever he gets. but good judgment should prevent from poor relationships right?

[AGirl]

4. um No. I think what she said was very sexist against women.

[LiberalFighter]

10. At what point did Hillary know about it? Before or after the marriage?

[fenriswolf]

13. not about it

but they type of person. I know bill is a good guy but point is he cheated on her. I know this argument has been hashed and rehashed but as a guy i'm pretty good at spotting guys who are cheaters, arn't women?

[LiberalFighter]

30. You can't spot them all of the time immediately

And some just don't see it until it's too late or don't want to admit it.

You probably haven't been around women much.

[October]

12. Unbelievably ignorant. /nt

[fenriswolf]

14. sorry you feel that way

what i asked was a question about how i precieved the situation, sorry if you think i am ill informed. enlighten me with your opinion rather then just dissing mine.

[LostinVA]

34. Now, that IS sexist

UGH.

[peoli]

5. fucking yawn!

[sunonmars]

6. saucer of milk for Mrs Obama

I bet she wouldnt say that to Hillary's face. What a totally bitchy thing to say to another woman. Basically its saying, its your fault he cheated on you.

I'd smack her if she said that to me.

[Cha]

9. Why not?

hillary can't take it?

[Adelante]

7. Oh, for fuck's sake nt

[marmar]

8. And that's today's episode of "Out-of-Context Theatre".....

If you'd listened to the entire speech or read the entire transcript, then you'd realize that's not what she was saying. But hey, never let actuality get in the way of these silly back-and-forth attacks.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

15. The cherry picking of quotes here on the DU gives cherries a bad name.

:eyes:

MKJ

[robbedvoter]

11. TRUCE!!!!!!

enough already!!!

[Cha]

16. Quit whining..I know hillary

can't handle it but your whinging is pathetic.

[durrrty libby]

17. Michelle has a young family and has no idea what the future has in store for her

She better choose her words carefully, because Karma can be cruel

[JDPriestly]

29. You are so right. Mid-life crisis has not yet hit at her house.

Judge not that ye be not judged.

[RiverStone]

18. Why did you join DU?

:think:

[durrrty libby]

31. Obviously she didn't join to kiss Michelle 's ass? You?

[Skip Intro]

46. BAM!

[TankLV]

49. SNAP!

or to worship at the foot of saint obama...

[GrantDem]

19. ...

:popcorn:

[ariesgem]

20. The speech had NOTHING to do with the Clintons

She was speaking in reference to HER family.


Full quote:

OBAMA: That one of the most important things that we need to know about the next president of the United States is, is he somebody that shares our values? Is he somebody that respects family? Is a good and decent person? So our view was that, if you can't run your own house, you certainly can't run the White House. So, so we've adjusted our schedules to make sure that our girls are first, so while he's traveling around, I do day trips. That means I get up in the morning, I get the girls ready, I get them off, I go and do trips, I'm home before bedtime. So the girls know that I was gone somewhere, but they don't care. They just know that I was at home to tuck them in at night, and it keeps them grounded, and, and children, the children in our country have to know that they come first. And our girls do and that's why we're doing this. We're in this race for not just our children, but all of our children.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200708220010

Enough already.

[rox63]

22. Thanks for posting the whole quote - Context is a useful thing n/t

[Adsos Letter]

28. context is EVERYTHING...

it is the fundamental problem with sound-bite news...we don't easily get enough context on ANYTHING that we need to make judgements upon as voters and world-citizens...

[durrrty libby]

33. Lol That is so fucking funny considering all the Clinton quotes

taken out of context by Obamamites.

The rancid smell of hypocrisy around here is putrid

[TankLV]

51. which is good - because there is NO WAY she could be talking about HILLARY! riiiiiight....

and Mcgurkin or whatever was in NO WAY obama's fault!!!

riiiight...

keep spinnin...you people are almost funny to watch...

[Evergreen Emerald]

41. oh please. It had everything to do with the Clintons.

If you are buying that load, I have a bridge for sale in Alaska for you.

[TankLV]

50. riiiight...from someone who see slights in everything Hillary says...riiiight....

[Proud2BAmurkin]

21. oh no she di inn

:rofl:

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

23. Please read post #20 for the entire quote that did not mention Sen. Clinton at all.

Por favor? MKJ

[terisan]

24. So if Obama steps out of line, it's his wife's fault ??????????

[shaniqua6392]

25. Meeeeoooooowwwwww!!!!!

Hiss. How does Michelle really know her hubby has or will step out on her? We can not control another human being. She talks too much.

[Ecumenist]

26. Grow up....Girl

I am so tired of welcoming new folks to DU and then having them tombstoned within 24 hours, especially considering the flood of disruptors.
Girl, your post serves NO PURPOSE whatsoever and I am tired of your attempt to cause more problems.


Grow up, sister and learn what is really important, is that too much to ask?

[grantcart]

27. Another example of Clinton's camp

not being able to run with Obama so they take something out of context and give it a meaning it never had. How far will you people take it? Will you keep bringing up Obama's teenage years so that when he gets the nomination he will fail in the general and Hillary can try again in 4 years.

[Marrah_G]

43. Yeah because she really supports Clinton.

:eyes: We've been dealing with her kind for a while.

[fightindonkey]

32. And That's When They Started The Lowest Of The Low, Michelle Should Shut Her Mouth!

[Bonobo]

36. Look at post #20, stupid.

[rodeodance]

35. HIL CLINTON KEPT HER FAMILY TOGETHER DURING BILLS PROBLEMS AND

DURING THE IMPEACHMENT PRECESS..


I WONDER IF MICHELE REMEMBERS THAT??

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

37. Post #20, knee jerkers. Her comment had NOTHING to do with Sen Clinton.

And Ms. AGirl got to see you all respond just the way she wanted, by trashing not one but two very smart, successful, strong Democratic women.

WTG.

MKJ

[TankLV]

52. riiiiight - just because YOU say soooo...riiiiight....

[Marrah_G]

38. Edit: Thank you so much for your concern.

How telling it is that you chose this sort of thing to be one of your first posts.

I see a Pizza delivery in your future.

[ecstatic]

39. She wasn't talking about Clinton, but the Msm spun it that way nt

[goodgd_yall]

40. Just for the heck of it

I'll argue this: I don't think Michelle Obama's premise is true. There are many people successful in their careers and occupations who are not very good in personal relationships---although I'm not sure if Michelle is talking about personal relationships or knowing how to supervise the servants (what is "run your own house?").

[Nailzberg]

42. Read post 20, it has the context you seek.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4066919&mesg_id=4067128

[AtomicKitten]

44. Perhaps we should bring to the forefront concern about BC's behavior in the WH.

I am concerned he might act up again, and I appreciate the Clintons pioneering the way for us to discuss these kinds of issues BEFORE the election.

:rofl:

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

45. Poo flinging has become an art here on DU.

The American judges give you an average of 8.5, the East German judge give you a five, due to your inclusion of the :rofl: smilie.

:-) MKj

[AtomicKitten]

47. it's an homage to the concern posts

on edit: Thank you for Y0UR concern. ;)

[TankLV]

48. typical - we've come to expect as much from them...

michelle honey - people who live in glass houses...

[Steely_Dan]

53. If this is true...

it is completely uncalled for.

-P

[MrSlayer]

54. Chris Rock's take on the Lewinsky incident is classic. (graphic)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Rk30mbiqk

[FrenchieCat]

55. Can't keep a story straight....than you can't get into my White House

AGAIN!

MEET THE PRESS
01/13/08

(Videotape, October 10, Clinton's 2002 Iraq speech):
SEN. CLINTON: So it is with conviction that I support this resolution as being in the best interest of our nation. And it is a vote that says clearly to Saddam Hussein, this is your last chance. Disarm or be disarmed.

(End videotape)

MR. RUSSERT: Casting your vote for conviction for the authorization for use of military force against Iraq resolution. That same week Senator Obama gave a speech, and this is what he said: "I know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors. ... I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that" "invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale" "without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than the best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars."

Who had the better judgment at that time? :shrug:

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MR. RUSSERT: I want to stay with your vote because that same day, Senator Levin offered an amendment, the Levin amendment, and this is how the New York Times reported it. "The amendment called ... for the U.N. to pass a new resolution explicitly approving the use of force against Iraq. It also required the president to return to Congress if his U.N. efforts failed." ... Senator Levin said, "Allow Congress to vote only after exhausting all options with the United States." You did not participate in that vote. You voted against Carl Levin, who was saying give diplomacy a chance and yet you said no. You voted to authorize war. The resolution you voted for, Robert Byrd said was a blank check for George Bush. Ted Kennedy says it was a vote for war. James Carville and Paul Begala said anyone who says that vote wasn't a vote for war is bunk.

SEN. CLINTON: Well, Tim, if I had a lot of paper in front of me, I could quote people who say something very differently, so I know you're very good at this and I respect it, but let's look at the context here. Number one, the Levin amendment, in my view, gave the Security Council of the United Nations a veto over American presidential power. I don't believe that is an appropriate policy for the United States, no matter who is our president. :eyes:
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MR. RUSSERT: But you voted for all the funding for the war.

SEN. CLINTON: I did. I never--I'm not premising my campaign on something different. :wtf:

MR. RUSSERT: And then until '06 was against the timetable.

SEN. CLINTON: But I did what I--my principle concern has always been doing what I thought was best for our country and what I thought was best for our troops. I'm not here saying anything different than that. I'm not giving you a story line that does not hold up...

MR. RUSSERT: But did he have better...

SEN. CLINTON: ...under the facts and the times we were in.

MR. RUSSERT: Did he have better judgment in October of 2002?

SEN. CLINTON: You know, look, judgment is not a single snapshot. Judgment is what you do across the course of your life and your career.

MR. RUSSERT: A vote for war is a very important vote.

SEN. CLINTON: Well, you know, Tim, we can have this Jesuitical argument :wtf: about what exactly was meant. You know, when Chuck Hagel, who helped to draft the resolution, :wtf: said it was not a vote for war, when I was told directly by the White House in response to my question, "if you are given this authority, will you put the inspectors in and permit them to finish their job," I was told that's exactly what we intended to do.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22634967/page/3/
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Sen. Hagel's Proposal indeed! Ha!

So much bullshit, so little time from Ms. Hillary "I did this, and I did that" Clinton, triangulating her distortions....all the while her "experience" is pretty much made up of making mistakes, and doesn't add up to 35 years....except for in her mind. Woman had no security clearance nor attended NS meeting while leaving at the White House.

Note, anything above the ---------line is straight from the transcript, and there is nothing that I added beyond smilie commentaries, to highlight the bullshit as it was spewed.