Wikipedia says Hillary was a Republican! She supported Right Wing Extremist Goldwater!

[socalover]

Unbelievable, she supported right wing extremist Barry Goldwater in 1964

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_1964

Why isn't the Obama camp running on this?

While losing quite badly in the 1964 election, Goldwater laid the foundation for the conservative revolution to follow. Ronald Reagan's speech on Goldwater's behalf, grassroots organization, and the conservative takeover of the Republican party would all help to bring about the "Reagan Revolution" of the 1980s. Indeed, many of today's leading politicians first entered politics to work for Goldwater (including Hillary Clinton, who was a 'Goldwater girl').

[TheJizzaking]

1. LOL

I hope you are being sarcastic.

[socalover]

5. not at all....nt

[TheJizzaking]

20. So

Obama should be running on what she believed in 1968??

Something that has been open and public since then??

Who gives a fuck what happened in 1968?

If John Kerry would have run on 2004 and not what he did in Vietnam, and what Chimpy McDraftdoger didn't do in Vietnam, he wouldn't have allowed himself to be swiftboated.

Those of us of a certain age, (I'm 35), are sick and tired of the Baby Boomers arguing about the 60s. i don't give a shit anymore.

That's why I support Obama, b/c it's time for the Baby Boomers to let the next generation to have a chance.

But I'll defend Hilary here, because you're post is just silly and irrelevant. If Obama attacks Hillary for being a Goldwater Girl, than that's just ridiculous.

[papau]

31. Age 14 in 1964 - are you trying for a laugh? - read about her liberal conversion start of sophomore

in college after freshman year being a "young Republican"

[socalover]

32. Wrong, age 17 I read below but she should have been more Liberal the younger she is..

[Occam Bandage]

38. Youth does not equal liberalism. Youth equals idealism.

And Goldwater was about as idealistic as you could get. Read Conscience of a Conservative some time; it's all idealistic (and frankly unrealistic) pap.

[RichGirl]

89. Don't confuse a Goldwater republican with GWB.

Goldwater's wife was a supporter of Planned Parenthood. The republican party has taken a sharp turn to the darks side.

[papau]

39. October 26, 1947 is indeed 17 - my error - a junior in High school - guess O was on the phones for

Dems at age 17.

[onenote]

45. actually she turned 17 less than a month before the election

And do really want to open the door into what the various candidates were doing with their lives at age 17?

[LeftishBrit]

63. So Ronald Reagan must have been a good president, because he started life as a liberal Democrat?

There may be plenty of things to say against Hillary Clinton; but her political beliefs as a teenager are not really relevant.

[ChiciB1]

87. She's My Age... She Switched When She Married Clinton! She's 60 Now!!! n/t

[Captain Hilts]

2. So'd Stephanie Miller! nt

[Fed_Up_Grammy]

3. Old news!

[The Magistrate]

4. They Are Not Running On It, Ma'am, Because People Would Laugh At Them Too Hard

[Bonobo]

93. Didn't stop Hil fans from running with the "Obama is a Reaganite" issue, did it?

[Mz Pip]

6. Big Wow

She must have been in high school back then. :eyes:

Mz Pip
:dem:

[havocmom]

7. um, yes, she was

And no, not many of us are surprised about the revelation of HRC's youthful indiscretion Hillary admitted (and sorta apologized for it years ago).

We should be happy people grow and change from their early years. It's the ones who DON'T grow and change who are the most troubling.

[socalover]

19. You would think she would be more liberal the younger she was... nt

[Marrah_G]

8. Is that all you got?

[MonkeyFunk]

9. OMFG!!!!!

This changes EVERYTHING!!!!!

[LostinVA]

73. I'M CHANGING MY AVATAR RIGHT NOW!!!

[rodeodance]

81. ha ha

[Lucinda]

10. Welcome to our planet. I assume you just arrived.

Don't eat yellow snow.

[socalover]

25. yes indeed! I am shocked!

[Lucinda]

27. Republicans were an entirely different thing back then. And she grew out of it.

:)

[socalover]

30. They were still right wing extremists!

[jzodda]

11. This will probably get me rick rolled again

not clicking on it :)

[durrrty libby]

12. Belllllch...Buuurp ...Farrrrt

[TwilightZone]

13. Where have you been?

This has been a known "issue" for about 15 years.

[socalover]

16. I was obviously in the dark!

[TwilightZone]

18. As others have mentioned, she was a Goldwater Republican in 1964.

From all reports, it didn't last very long, and Republicans then were quite different than our current "Republicans".

[Buzz Clik]

14. She was 17 years old, and four years from being of voting age.

What rank horseshit.

[Cha]

15. Because Obama doesn't dig up

dirt..hillary has the corner on that.

[JohnnyLib2]

17. We are in a cease fire period.

Please do a little research on your own. Example: long, locked posts from yesterday, or any reputable source on the candidate's early years.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

21. LOLLL Ancient history, but i'll play ...

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

22. OH NOES!! I CAN HAZ STUPIDBURGER?

Uh... she was seventeen... and this has been known forever and just exactly nobody cares. I suspect the reason the Obama camp isn't "running on this" just might be because the whole universe would laugh its collective ass off.

WAIT! BREAKING NEWS!

In 1962 Hillary had three overdue library books! This is BIG! Why Isn't the Obama campaign nunning on this?

[OzarkDem]

23. Welcome to DU

:eyes:

Watch your step, after that post someone will be watching you.

[baldguy]

24. She didn't leave the GOP, the GOP left her.

[socalover]

26. Yeah right!

[lapfog_1]

28. Posted and re-posted over and over

and just as irrelevant today as yesterday.

I was supporting NIXON when I was in junior high.

So what.

Attack her record since becoming Senator. Attack her proposals. Attack her campaign tactics.

But lets not attack her for what she was doing as a teenager.

And we shouldn't attack Obama what what he did as a teenager either.

I think before the age of 18 should be off-limits... We all did stupid shit when we were young.

[yellowcanine]

29. Let's see, Hillary was born in 1947. That makes her.....17 in 1964. Whoa, you are right,

Obama should really make a big deal out of this because it has great relevance today. Much more than the fact that she switched to the Democratic Party within several years against the wishes of her very Republican father, and has been a loyal Democrat ever since.

[NMMNG]

33. Maybe they're not running on it because....they're not freaking morons.

Hillary Clinton was about 17 in 1964, no?
She should be penalized for her support of a politician 44 years ago when she was a teenager?

Imagine what would happen if we were all similarly penalized for what we did as teenagers.





Get a clue. I hear they're pretty cheap.

[Bucky]

66. I see this as a good bumper sticker slogan

VOTE FOR
Obama
He's not a freaking moron

[riverdale]

34. you all don't need to be so rude

I thought that was a very pertinent piece of information when I first heard it.

[Marrah_G]

44. It was a post that deserved to be mocked

The poster was trying to stir up more irrelevant shit.

[riverdale]

47. Do you seriously go around mocking people who don't have

all this arcane political knowlege in their heads like we do? I guarantee that if I told this to my wife it would be news to her, and she is not stupid.

[LostinVA]

75. Who cares who knows thia? *YAWN*

[onenote]

46. then you need to work on your thinking

sorry if that seems rude

[socalover]

49. and you are just so smart...

[onenote]

52. smarter, for sure

I have a question: what were your politics 44 years ago? Have you ever changed your mind about anything? When you were 16 did you have everything figured out just so? Do you think any of the other candidates might not want to be judged on the basis of their 16 year old selves?

Did you think of any of this before you posted?

[LostinVA]

74. Of course we do when it's some lame attempt at smearing like that

And, I'll be rude to you, too: PERTINENT? *yawn*

[riverdale]

82. You are doing a lot of yawning today

should change your name to Tired in VA

[LostinVA]

84. Go play elsewhere

*pinches your cherubic cheeks*

And, I'm not in VA.

[riverdale]

92. oi

Whomever responded to that is on ignore. If you came back to yawn at me again, I fart in your general direction.

[Zynx]

35. And we all know we believe the same things at age 60 we did at age 17.

[Occam Bandage]

36. Wow, she was attracted to a simplistic ideologue at 17? SCANDAL!

:eyes:

[tammywammy]

37. Wow! The third thread on this in 2 days!

Seriously, this isn't new news, it's been out there for years.

[LostinVA]

77. I think it's the sixth (seriously)

It's insane.

Did you know Edwards got drunk a few times in college??????? Or, Obama lost his temper and CUSSEDe was 17???

[donheld]

40. I'm praying for you a tombstone

[KingFlorez]

41. It's not relevant

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

42. I guess what you stupidly do as a naive teenager only counts if you smoke grass or do coke

or if you're 5 years old in kindergarten and write an essay on why you want to be President.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama both did stupid things when they were young. None of this is relevant to what they can and would do in middle age as President.

[TankLV]

43. OH MY GOD! This changes EVERYTHING!!!!

Now I will DEFINITELY be voting FOR Hillary as opposed to AGAINST the obamabots - because they have sunk THIS LOW to think this is even "news"...

but, no - obama is so fucking holy JEESUS!!!

you're all getting stridently silly now...

[emilyg]

48. Good joke.

[BenDavid]

50. Hey if Obama wants to run with something a teenager did at

the age of what 15, then HRC would be obligated to run ads talking about Barack O BONGER and his drug use when he was young....So you see it might seem like something good to you obama folks but mr obonger would not like what would be run against him.:sarcasm:

[socalover]

51. Did you Hillary Clinton lovers also forgive David Duke?

[CyberPieHole]

55. Is David Duke your daddy?

:shrug:

[dsc]

59. David Duke is still a racist thug now

whereas Clinton hasn't voted for, campaigned for, or otherwise supported a Republican in literally decades.

[onenote]

61. let's have some applause for the non-sequitur of the year!!

I, of course, have no clue what David DUke's views on anything were when he was a teenager. I do know what his views are now, and that's why I think he's scum. You, on the other hand, seem to be fixated on what people thought when they were teens. So, if it turned out that when he was 17 David Duke was a pro-civil rights liberal would you be praising him?

[asthmaticeog]

62. You're not very good at this.

[LostinVA]

78. It's David DUKES, David Duke was an excellent actor who died too young

Or maybe I have that backwards. Whatever.

And, why would are we supposed to forgive the racist jerk?

HEY, CROZ!

[wiley]

53. Yeah, I've heard her say that. And I've read it. Beware the Wikipedia.

Although Senator Clinton was a 17 year old Goldwater supporter, the Wikipedia is very prone to being altered in the name of corporate interests. I guess they thought someone (or maybe two people) would think this was a shocking revelation. If the Obama camp were running on this, there wouldn't be an Obama camp. The man is way, way more intelligent that that. In fact, I'm really hoping Clinton/Obama spreads like wildfire on bumper stickers throughout the country. We need two scrappers on the ticket.

[CyberPieHole]

54. STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!!! DO WE HAVE ANY FILM ON THIS MAJOR SCANDAL????

Ronald Reagan was a Democrat before he decided to be a giant f*cking *sshole by joining the Repig party and destroying our once great nation. George W. Bush has ALWAYS BEEN A CONSISTENT BOIL AND *SSHOLE.

You have any other "breaking" news to report?

[Bucky]

67. It's GOLDWATERGATE!

[cali]

56. not this shit again. Good for Hillary. She was a politically engaged KID

She wasn't even old enough to vote. this has to be lamest thing to attack her on ever. Congrats on being silly enough to do so.

[H2O Man]

65. Yes, but

she used to be in the 8th grade! Why isn't Obama pointing that out?!?!?! Do we want to run an 8th grader? WHAT WILL THE REPUBLICANS DO WITH THAT????????

[mrdemocrat78]

57. Close enough... she might as well be

[LostinVA]

79. Oh, big surprise

:eyes:

[dmosh42]

58. Reagan voted for Roosevelt! So....

We were all young and idealistic at one time. At least if you were into politics at early ages. Some of us don't read anything until we're into our 30s, and make voting decisions based on some 'Karl Rove' type ad.

[JSK]

60. So did Thom Hartmann

BFD

[laylah]

64. Yet another

"no profile" basher :eyes:

[havocmom]

68. FWIW, Wikipedia could say the same about you too.

Since it is open to any editing, Wikipedia is NOT always reliable. Better to get info from other sources.

On the topic of HRC's early political activities, you CAN get that info from HRC herself. She has been up front about being a Goldwater Girl. If that is what troubles you about her, relax.

People do grow and change as they experience more life. For instance, you may gather experience and learn there are much better sources of information than Wikipedia.

[ordinaryaveragegirl]

69. And then she grew up and saw the light...

She was a teenager. Let it go....

[mdmc]

70. yup

:)

[Vinca]

71. Who cares if Hillary was a Goldwater Girl?

Who cares if Obama was a troubled teenager who tried drugs? Oh . . . wait . . . it seems a certain campaign has mentioned that a number of times, haven't they? Never mind.

[LostinVA]

72. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

What's this, the tenth on this in about 24 hours?

Oh my.

And, I voted for Reagan when I was in college. I was clueless. At least HRC didn't vote like I did.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

76. yes we should always be penalized for what we did in our teens. we should disregard

positive chnages that people have made to their lives.

that would be too mature for us.

by the way, i dont hold obama's coke use against him either.

[rodeodance]

80. ha--ha. you are slow on the draw, don't read much.

[ronnykmarshall]

83. This is earth shattering!

[ChiciB1]

85. OMG... What Does One Say??? I've Only Known This Since.... FOREVER!!

However, I still don't support her, not because of this... just many other things!

She SWITCHED waaaaaaaaaaaaay back when she met & married Bill Clinton!

[redqueen]

86. Bwaahahahaha

Hehehehee

Thanks for the laugh. Great way to start the day. :D

[wintersoulja]

88. One Nation under Wal-Mart

It boggles to see her supporters clueless as to her real allegiences.
Full props for MFN and all the other sweet treats she and he gave the
"family" from Arkansas.

[LanternWaste]

90. I was a Republican in my youth...

I was a Republican in my youth. Voted for Reagan in 1984. Dear God-- I guess I'm just not a good Democrat, either...

...unless of course, one takes into account that as a person grows and changes throughout their lives, a concomitant part of that change is political.

As for me, I see a large difference between what a person does in their youth and what they do in the here and now.

But, I'm sure that many people don't hold to that, and think that if a teen involved himself in local, beer-induced drag-race on the strip twenty or thirty years ago, then by God(!) he must still be doing the same thing.

[auburngrad82]

91. OMG! This is HUGH! Jesse Helms was once a Democrat!

I'll never vote Democratic again!

:sarcasm:

[HughMoran]

94. Every dolt knows this

She wasn't a Republican for long though...