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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:08 PM
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If Hillary wins California, NY, NJ, CT, MA, what does Obama do?
She's looking very strong in all those states.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:09 PM
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1. His supporters will cry fraud.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:10 PM
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2. Not even on his radar right now. Its all about Nevada and SC
If he wins both, California is heavily in play.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:36 AM
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18. Maybe. Someone on DU said they're mailing their absentee ballots now.
So many votes don't hinge on SC and NV.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:21 AM
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21. It was said that around 40 percent voted by absentee in 2006
But SC is 10 days before the primary and NV is 17 days before, which means that there is a good chance people will mail their ballot until at least after Nevada and possibly some after SC.
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:10 PM
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3. *Yawn*
Obama is running strong in all those states, plus the south.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:10 PM
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4. If aliens come, kidnap chelsea, and give Bill xray vision....what would Hillary do?
Still a lot of time Herman, still a lot of time.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:11 PM
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5. Continue since no candidate will win a majority of delegates on Super Tuesday
He will also win several states and that will allow him to continue, although in a much weakened state if your scenario comes true. If Obama loses Georgia that will be a big blow to him. That is the big state other than his home state that he is most likely to win on Super Tuesday. If Hillary takes that it is bad for him. Even if the worst possible scenario occurs for him he will continue. He will still win at least 20-25% of the delegates on Super Tuesday and no one will be near the 2,000 delegates needed to become the nominee after Super Tuesday.
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Konza Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:32 PM
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6. Wasn't Hillary supposed to walk away with all of those?
The fact that Obama wins anything on Super Tuesday is shocking considering how "inevitable" Hillary was 2 weeks ago.
I think Obama's hope on Super Tuesday is to pick off a few clear wins in a couple states and then come close in the biggies that Hillary already has 'wrapped up". Since the delegates are assigned based on portion of vote, Obama stays alive to fight another day if he keeps peeling off more than a third of the delegates. A trouncing on Super Tuesday will end it for him. That's why these two weeks are getting so rough. But a solid second in Cali, NY, NJ, etc. keeps him in until the convention.

Now for Hillary, if she loses one of those big monster states it'll be the Mother of All Upsets.
She had 25-30 point leads there just 3 weeks ago.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:26 AM
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30. Yes but Obama was also inevitable just one week ago
The bar was raised for Obama and if he loses most, or maybe all, of the big states and has only a handful of wins that will be a big disappointment for a guy who was crowned just last Tuesday.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:34 PM
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7. Keep going?
She's not going to win any of those that big.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:35 PM
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8. Correct. Since we are talking about proportional delegates, this could go on
a while.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:46 PM
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9. Kiss his chances good-bye because she'll win FL and MI too
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:37 AM
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19. Those Michigan Delegates Will Be Vital
I can't believe the Obama campaign didn't go negative on her about her being on the ballot.

Oh, wait. I can believe it. Go Obama!!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:46 AM
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26. Lol! And the Canadian vote will also be crucial.
In case you haven't heard, both Michigan and Florida have lost their delegates, so their input means just about as much as the Canadians.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:47 PM
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10. Scream Fraud and attack her as a racist.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:47 PM
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11. With Lamont and Kerry supporting Obama
you really think she's so safe in MA?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:55 PM
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13. No, Hillary is not at all safe in MA. Remember MA Govenor Patrick Duval?
Who Endorsed Obama. MA has are used to voting for Black leaders. Plus the fact that Obama and his wife both went to Harvard.

My daughter lives in Cambridge and MA is Obama's to grab and keep on going! :)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:37 AM
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20. "To grab"? You mean he hasn't got it yet?
It's a big fat college state. This ain't the time for him to take votes for granted.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:48 PM
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12. Any candidate is finished if they lose all those states
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:24 AM
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14. umm...vote "present"? shout..."RACIST!"?...
throw another "faggot" on the fire or under the bus?

just guessing based on past record...
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:29 AM
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22. Fortunately, I will not longer be reading what you are writing.......
And I hope you become a one-person-show shortly.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:25 AM
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15. Obama might win NV, SC, NC and others n/t
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:28 AM
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16. He takes his delegates from those states, and the race continues. nt
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 12:34 AM
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17. This election, trust no polls.
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:43 AM
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23. Pray that Hillary picks him up as VP
n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:44 AM
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24. We'll think about that after NV and SC change around this race.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:44 AM
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25. Remind this country that there is more to it than the Northeast.
Jesus, get over yourselves already.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 01:55 AM
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27. cry about how the race means so much to him so he can win sympathy?
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 02:27 AM
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28. Cry "racism" and get Jesse Jackson Jr. to spout some divisive stuff...
and hope for the best.:shrug:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:56 AM
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31. as long as you're being nasty let's look at this scene:
Hillary lose CA, MA and CT as well as several other states. Now we know she likes to choke up and manipulate people and we know she's a paranoid little cookie, not to mention that she plays the sexism card and loves to hide behind Bill's coattails and get her surrogates to files law suits, so what will cryin' hill do? Probably all of the above.

Put it out, get it back.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 03:03 AM
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29. then she probably also picks up the remainder of
the significant 2/5 states and he's done. He should probably think of dropping out at that point. But that's quite an if. And as they say, a week is a lifetime in politics.
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