Hillary's 35 years of Experience? AT DOING WHAT EXACTLY?

[FrenchieCat]

Hillary's "Experience" Lie If that's her selling point, put me down for Obama.
By Timothy Noah
Posted Monday, Jan. 14, 2008, at 7:16 PM ET

Going by years spent as an elective official, Obama's 11 years exceeds Clinton's seven, which in turn exceeds Edwards' six. But it's a silly calculus. They all come out about the same, even when you factor in Clinton's youthful work on the House judiciary committee's impeachment inquiry, her membership on the board of the Legal Services Corp., her chairmanship of the Arkansas Educational Standards committee, her crafting of an unsuccessful national health-care bill, and her sharing Bill Clinton's bed most nights while he was Arkansas governor and president of the United States.
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I don't mean to denigrate her professional experience. Clinton worked many years in corporate and public-interest law, performed advocacy work for the Children's Defense Fund and other groups, and was a university lecturer. She also devoted herself to raising a seemingly bright and loving daughter, which is no small feat, particularly given the public spotlight and some conspicuously bad behavior on the father's part.

But in government, Clinton's chief role over the years has been that of kibitzer. An important kibitzer, to be sure—what spouse isn't?—but not a direct participant.
<snip>
A Dec. 26 New York Times story revealed that during her husband's two terms in office, Hillary Clinton did not hold a security clearance, did not attend meetings of the National Security Council, and was not given a copy of the president's daily intelligence briefing.

During trips to Bosnia and Kosovo, she "acted as a spokeswoman for American interests rather than as a negotiator." On military affairs, most of her experience derives not from her White House years but from serving on the Senate armed services committee.
<snip>

Clinton's claim to superior experience isn't merely dishonest. It's also potentially dangerous should she become the nominee. If Clinton continues to build her campaign on the dubious foundation of government experience, it shouldn't be very difficult for her GOP opponent to pull that edifice down.
http://www.slate.com/id/2182073

If I could get a chronological listing with a line or two detailing what she did...along with dates, I would appreciate. Thanks! :hi:

[FrenchieCat]

1. No takers?

No list? :shrug:

Well hopefully, someone will have posted her long career and all of the details for me to peruse.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

53. 2 Senate terms, lifetime of professional activism, and everyone knows it'll be Billary presidency.

eom

[FrenchieCat]

2. OK.....not everyone all at once!

[indimuse]

3. WEll if you were really interested ...library of congress..google..but lQQk how cool this is

Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 09:40 PM by rodeodance
1/14/2008

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=518...

California NAACP President Alice Huffman Endorses Clinton
Huffman Supports Clinton as "staunch advocate for rights of all Americans"

LOS ANGELES, CA - The Clinton campaign today announced the endorsement of Alice Huffman, President of the California State Conference of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP.) The endorsement comes on the anniversary of Martin Luther King’s birthday. Senator Clinton delivered a speech in honor of the national holiday today at an SEIU celebration in New York City.

"Over the years, Hillary Clinton has earned my respect as a staunch advocate for the rights of people invisible to our nation's government, including women, minorities, children, and seniors," said Huffman. "Hillary shares my commitment to children, and has been a lifelong advocate for improving childhood education and health care. As President, I feel strongly that Hillary will create an atmosphere in this country that accepts and promotes the rights of all Americans."

Huffman has a distinguished career in public advocacy. Since 1999, she has been president of the California State Conference of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, the nation's oldest civil rights organization. In 2002, Huffman was elected to the NAACP's National Board of Directors were she currently serves as Region I Board Member. Huffman has previously served as associate executive director for politics for the California Teachers Association and state president of the Black American Political Association of California.

"It is wrong that that Americans still face discrimination in the workplace - that children still attend schools that are separate and unequal, and that schools don’t prepare them for the jobs of the 21st century," said Senator Clinton. "Alice and I have long shared the same cause of fighting to right those wrongs and I am both honored and humbled to have her support."

Senator Hillary Clinton’s speech at the SEIU birthday celebration can be viewed in its entirety here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNB3EHA5_k0 .

[Kolesar]

11. Yes, yes, you want to get it done before you go to bed

Noah:

McCain could easily make Hillary look like an absolute fraud who is no more truthful about her depth of government experience than she is about why her mother named her "Hillary." Dennis Kucinich has more government experience than Clinton. (He also has a better health-care plan, but we'll save that for another day.) If Clinton doesn't find a new theme soon, she won't just be cutting Obama's throat. She'll also be cutting her own.

[Essene]

4. A serious answer...

1. Being Bill Clinton's wife gave her considerable experience with politics, as a confidant. Oh wait, that's not experience. That's knowledge and connections. I guess that counts for experience in Washington.

2. Being first lady gave her considerable experience with diplomatic etiquette. She's met a lot of important people and hugged their wives. She knows exactly how far back to walk when the press are around, and she knows when to offer tea with milk. But seriously, who are we kidding? She never cared about that petty stuff and likely had people who took care of it for her. NOT RESUME WORTHY.

3. In fairness, she has extensive experience as a lawyer from Arkansas and activist doing important "children's defense fund" type of stuff. She has a significant career on those terms, although she seldomly emphasizes this. But let's be clear... it's serving as a board member, etc.

4. 7 years as my Senator.

- Committee on Budget (2001–2002)
- Committee on Armed Services (since 2003)
- Committee on Environment and Public Works (since 2001)
- Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (since 2001)
- Special Committee on Aging.
- She is also a Commissioner of the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe (since 2001)

So, her real experience boils down to a few committees as NY Senator in a post-2001 world. Her experience really boils down to:

1. getting funds for NY
2. supporting afghanistan and iraq
3. challenging bush's tax cuts

Indeed, running on her experience is a joke againts the GOP.

Against Mccain, it fails in every way since he's a much more senior senator with a military background.

Against Rudy, it fails in every way since his entire career is based on executive, management experience whereas she's had none.

Against Romney, it's a total disaster since he has significant private and public sector experience as a somewhat successful executive. More importantly, he can just keep repeating that he's actually established a universal health care program in Mass.

Against Mccain, she loses the "insider knowledge" argument but against Romney and Rudy, her stature as a Clinton and as a knowledgeable insider could go a long ways. That's not experience, but it's fuzzy enough to work for her.

[cali]

5. ridiculous diminishment of her Senate years

She's known as a serious player in the Senate, and knowledgable on defense and international relationships. She ran a major policy initiative from the White House. Yes, it failed, but that's still serious experience.

As long as she doesn't lose the black vote, she'd beat the hell out of Romney, Giuliani and Huck. No doubt, she'd have a tougher time with McCain.

[Essene]

10. She's the junior senator from new york, actually. MY senator. I know her record.

She's my senator and i've watched what she's done.

She had very little power for her first term, and her stature is primarily due to her name. She's gaining power and this campaign certainly solidifies even more, if she doesn't win. And Senator on her committees will have knowledge of those topics. Imagine them not. We don't elect people based on knowledge as a Congressman.



When is the last time we elected somebody out of Congress?




1960.

[H2O Man]

16. I'm from upstate NY.

Hillary Clinton is a very capable US Senator.

Though JFK is the last person to be elected from the congress to the presidency, others have had congressional experience. (LBJ, Nixon, and Bush1 are the obvious examples; Ford was not elected and served, while Gore was elected but did not serve.)

The democratic party has four candidates who are coming from congress, though John Edwards is not currently serving. It would seem curious to think that serving in congress should be considered a ball and chain in 2008. It might influence the VP selection, of course.

[wyldwolf]

6. Experience

Education

Wellesley College where she majored in political science.
Yale Law School, where she served on the Board of Editors of the Yale Review of Law and Social Action.

Political Activist Experience

Pragmatic Liberal

Always fascinated by radicalism, she wrote her senior thesis on a great radical organizer of poor people, Saul Alinsky of Chicago. Though when she was offered a job by Alinsky, after she wrote about him, and she turned him down--because she didn't think he was effective enough. She said to her boyfriend at that timebe in politics you have to win. And it didn't look to her like Alinsky was winning enough of his battles. She came to question his methodology and concluded in her thesis that larger government programs and funding were needed, not just community action at the grass roots.

She was the commencement speaker at Wellesley in 1969, chosen by her fellow students--there had never been a student commencement speaker there before. The scheduled speaker was Sen. Edward Brooke of Massachusetts, who Hillary had campaigned for, a Republican, the first black to be a member of the U.S. Senate in a hundred years. In his remarks he was patronizing, Hillary thought. He seemed to defend the Nixon administration's conduct of the war, and didn't mention the wrenching events of 68. When he finished, Hillary got up and extemporaneously excoriated him. As a result of that speech, she was featured in Life magazine as exemplary of this new generation of student leaders. They ran a picture of her in pedal pushers and her Coke-bottle glasses. That article made her well known in the student movement in the U.S.

She monitored the Black Panther trial in New Haven. She monitored the trial to see if there were any abuses of the rights of the Panthers on trial, and helped schedule the monitors. Her reports were turned over to the ACLU.

1971: Senator Walter Mondale's subcommittee on migrant workers, researching migrant problems in housing, sanitation, health and education.

Political Campaign Experience

1964 In high school, volunteered for Republican candidate Barry Goldwater.
1968 New Hampshire, Eugene McCarthy primary challenge to LBJ.
1972 Campaigned in the western states for 1972 Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern
1976 Jimmy Carter Presidential race, served as an Indiana campaign coordinator.

*** The Clinton Campaigns (Bill Clinton has stated Hillary played pivotal roles in his campaigns)***

1974 Bill Clinton's Congressional race (Lost)
1976 Bill Clinton's Attorney General race (Won)
1978 Bill Clinton's Governor's Race (W)
1980 Bill Clinton's Governor's Race (L)
1982 Bill Clinton's Governor's Race (W)
1992 Bill Clinton's Presidential Race (W)
1996 Bill Clinton's Presidential Race (W)
2000 Hillary Clinton's Senate Campaign (W)
2006 Hillary Clinton's Senate Campaign (W)

Legal Experience

1969 Truehaft, Walker and Bernstein in Oakland, one of the most liberal law firms in the country. They defended the Panthers.
1970 Yale University - city legal services, provided free legal advice for the poor.
1971 Staff attorney, Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge, Massachusetts
1971 Carnegie Council on Children, legal consultant.
1974 Impeachment Inquiry staff in Washington, D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal.
1974 University of Arkansas, Fayetteville School of Law - One of only two female faculty members.
1976 Rose Law Firm. In 1979, she became the first woman to be made a full partner.
1976 Worked pro bono on child advocacy.
1978 Jimmy Carter appoints Clinton to the board of the Legal Services Corporation.

She was twice named by the National Law Journal as one of the 100 most influential lawyers in America, in 1988 and in 1991.

First Lady of Arkansas

1979 Chaired the Rural Health Advisory Committee
1979 Introduced the Arkansas' Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth, a program that helps parents work with their children in preschool preparedness and literacy.
1982 - 1992 Chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee

* She was named Arkansas Woman of the Year in 1983 and Arkansas Mother of the Year in 1984.

* Clinton co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families in 1977.

* Served on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital Legal Services (1988-1992)and the Children's Defense Fund (as chair, 1986-1992)

* Corporate board of directors of TCBY (1985-1992),Wal-Mart Stores (1986-1992), and Lafarge (1990-1992)

First Lady of the United States of America

"She's very smart ... people rightly give her credit for having been a participant in the Clinton administration and for doing some heavy lifting on issues." Barack Obama, speaking of Hillary Clinton's White House experience and contradicting Obama supporters - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart 8/22/07

*** ONE MORE TIME FOR FRENCHIECAT ***

"She's very smart ... people rightly give her credit for having been a participant in the Clinton administration and for doing some heavy lifting on issues." Barack Obama, speaking of Hillary Clinton's White House experience and contradicting Obama supporters - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart 8/22/07

When asked about his wife's role in his administration in August of 2000, President Bill Clinton said "She basically had an unprecedented level of activity in her present position over the last eight years.''

1993 First to bring a serious universal healthcare plan to be considered by the US Congress
1997 Helped develop the Adoption and Safe Families Act of 1997

The First Lady led the effort on the Foster Care Independence bill, to help older, unadopted children transition to adulthood. She also hosted numerous White House conferences that related to children's health, including early childhood development (1997) and school violence (1999). She lent her support to programs ranging from "Prescription for Reading," in which pediatricians provided free books for new mothers to read to their infants as their brains were rapidly developing, to nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses. She also supported an annual drive to encourage older women to seek a mammography to prevent breast cancer, coverage of the cost being provided by Medicare.

Hillary Clinton was the only First Lady to keep an office in the West Wing among those of the president's senior staff. While her familiarity with the intricate political issues and decisions faced by the President, she openly discussed his work with him, yet stated that ultimately she was but one of several individuals he consulted before making a decision. They were known to disagree. Regarding his 1993 passage of welfare reform, the First Lady had reservations about federally supported childcare and Medicaid. When issues that she was working on were under discussion at the morning senior staff meetings, the First Lady often attended. Aides kept her informed of all pending legislation and oftentimes sought her reaction to issues as a way of gauging the President's potential response. Weighing in on his Cabinet appointments and knowing many of the individuals he named, she had working relationships with many of them.

She persuaded Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin to convene a meeting of corporate CEOs for their advice on how companies could be persuaded to adopt better child care measures for working families.

With Attorney General Janet Reno, the First Lady helped to create the Department of Justice's Violence Against Women office. One of her closest Cabinet allies was Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. Following her international trips, Hillary Clinton wrote a report of her observations for Albright. A primary effort they shared was globally advocating gender equity in economics, employment, health care and education.

During her trips to Africa (1997), Asia (1995), South America (1995, 1997) and the Central European former Soviet satellite nations (1997, 1998), Hillary Clinton emphasized "a civil society," of human rights as a road to democracy and capitalism.

The First Lady was also one of the few international figures at the time who spoke out against the treatment of Afghani women by Islamist fundamentalist Taliban that had seized control of Afghanistan.

One of the programs she helped create was Vital Voices, a U.S.-sponsored initiative to promote the participation of international women in their nation's political process. One result of the group's meetings, in Northern Ireland, was drawing together women leaders of various political factions that supported the Good Friday peace agreement that brought peace to that nation long at civil war.

Hillary Clinton was also an active supporter of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), often awarding its micro-loans to small enterprises begun by women in developing nations that aided the economic growth in their impoverished communities. Certainly one of her more important speeches as First Lady addressing the need for equal rights for women was international in scope and created controversy in the nation where it was made: the September 1995 United Nations Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing, China.

Senator From New York

After the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, Hillary worked with her colleagues to secure the funds New York needed to recover and rebuild. She fought to provide compensation to the families of the victims, grants for hard-hit small businesses, and health care for front line workers at Ground Zero.

She is the first New Yorker ever to serve on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

She has introduced legislation to tie Congressional salary increases to an increase in the minimum wage.

She helped pass legislation that encouraged investment to create jobs in struggling communities through the Renewal Communities program.

She has championed legislation to bring broadband Internet access to rural America.

She worked to strengthen the Children's Health Insurance Program, which increased coverage for children in low income and working families.

She authored legislation that has been enacted to improve quality and lower the cost of prescription drugs and to protect our food supply from bioterrorism.

She sponsored legislation to increase America's commitment to fighting the global HIV/AIDS crisis.

She's working for expanded use of information technology in the health care system to decrease administrative costs, lower premiums, and reduce medical errors.

She's worked to ensure the safety of prescription drugs for children, with legislation now included in the Best Pharmaceuticals for Children Act, and her legislation to help schools address environmental hazards. She has also proposed expanding access to child care.

She has passed legislation that will bring more qualified teachers into classrooms and more outstanding principals to lead our schools.

Hillary is one of the original cosponsors of the Prevention First Act to increase access to family planning. Her fight with the Bush Administration ensured that Plan B, an emergency contraceptive, will be available to millions of American women and will reduce the need for abortions.

She introduced the Count Every Vote Act of 2005 to ensure better protection of votes and to ensure that every vote is counted.

Senate Armed Services Committee

Subcommittees:

* Airland
* Emerging Threats and Capabilities
* Readiness and Management Support

Senate Committee on Environment & Public Works

Subcommittees:

* Subcommittee on Superfund and Environmental Health (Chair)
* Subcommittee Clean Air and Nuclear Safety
* Subcommittee on Transportation and Infrastructure

Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor & Pensions

Subcommittees:

* Children and Families
* Employment & Workplace Safety




Sources:

Wikipedia
Firstladies.org
Alternet
hillaryclinton.com

[cali]

9. way too padded. The truth lies somewhere between this

and the statement that none of that experience is relevant.

[Maribelle]

17. Padded? The truth lies at the bottom line, as in the sum total of a candidate's experience.

And at that bottom line - - Hillary's experience, as aptly noted in the post you attempt to bash, far outshines any other candidate by mega-rays, without question.

You and the op author, attempting to nullify any of the bullet points in her life experiences, merely show off your ability to put on blindfolds.

Talking about what you don't like about her experiences is a debating tactic. Attempting to pretend they don't exist is simply foolish. Bashing her on your made-up issues that some of her experiences don't even exist is repulsive.

Could we please debate real issues here, for a change? Is that possible, or do I dream?

[cali]

23. bash? You have a lot of nerve. Day in and day out I defend your candidate here

And I've done so repeatedly just this morning. I've defended her against the charge that she was a lawyer for Walmart, against the stupid Goldwater Girl bash and several more stupid slams. There's nothing remotely close to bashing in my post.

I simply stated that much on that list is NOT germane to the presidency. That's a fact, not a slam.

You defend my candidate from bullshit, and I'll have some respect for your view.

[Labors of Hercules]

58. Just based on your posts above...

I support you 100%. I thought it was refreshing to see an Obama supporter standing up for Hillary's record.

bravo Cali! :applause:

[LordJFT]

57. some of us think quality of experience is more important than quantity

[wyldwolf]

29. prove it

Obama supporters constantly use "community organizer on the southside" to pad a part-time state senator and three year US Senate record.

[cali]

33. for pity's sake wyldwolf. You went back to her college years.

hell, you went back to her high school years. Yeah, that's padding.

[SIMPLYB1980]

37. No that is context.

[wyldwolf]

41. removing that, and her experience still eclipses that of Obama's... but then, on the other hand...

Obama uses his adolescence as experience in the foreign policy debate.

[Kolesar]

7. I identify with Obama because we have both done organizing at a community level

We did not organize with a view to moving on to higher political power. We both organized because we felt there was a need to be fulfilled that was worth sacrificing our free time.

[Evergreen Emerald]

27. Then you identify with Clinton, because she also organized at the community level

[Kolesar]

40. The whole point of Timothy Noah's evisceration of Hillary is that she padded her resume ... eom

[H2O Man]

8. Her experience

with the House Committee investigating the justifications for impeaching a president stands out in my mind. I am interested in candidate's experience as it relates to understanding the US Constitution as a living document.

[Essene]

12. The last time USA elected somebody from Congress was...

1960. JFK.

There's a very significant trend. We do not elect Congressman, when given an option of somebody with executive experience (as governor, VP, etc).

In her case, the trend breaking factor could be her experience as a first lady. Irony.

[Maribelle]

18. The people elected former Senator Gore in 2000. Since then, we've had 7 years of a fraud.

Please do try to keep up.

[H2O Man]

20. JFK was the

last person elected directly from congress. After him, LBJ, Nixon, and Bush1 all had experience in congress and were ekected president. Ford had experience in congress,wasn't elected,but seved; and Gore had experience in congress, was elected, and didn't serve. Thank you for reminding people of this.

Considering our four democratic candidates include three US Senators and one Representative, it seems odd that anyone would advocate voting for someone else.

[Maribelle]

22. And where on earth was Gore when he was elected Vice President?

I believe this is a non issue, however.

[DaLittle Kitty]

13. Edwards IS The ONLY Candidate That You Can TRUST!

Given relative equality of experience as you state, I will stand w/ the candidate I can trust. NO BS Coming From Edwards Camp unlike these two.:)

[beachmom]

32. His Senate record doesn't back up his rhetoric. Not sure why

one would trust that.

[Kolesar]

14. why did you start a second thread when you were posting on a 1:00 AM thread?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4069803

[flpoljunkie]

15. Media does not question her "35 years" experience so Clinton camp keeps repeating it.

[Rockholm]

19. Obama had how many years in the Illinois senate?

And what, TWO years in the US Senate?

[flpoljunkie]

25. Eight years in the Illinois legislature.

[MGKrebs]

21. ...at getting to the point she is now. She can speak articulately and thoughtfully

about seemingly any issue, much like her husband. Listening to her speak, one can clearly discern that she has "paid attention" and experienced a lot. What difference does it make what specific meetings she was in or not in, or what specific tasks she was given? She is clearly qualified, she clearly has a thorough understanding of how government works, and she is showing the toughness, the stamina, and the will to do the job.

Questioning her experience might make sense if there was any evidence that she might not have the capability to do this job. On the contrary, she often seems more informed, more thoughtful, and more pragmatic than some of her opponents. What difference does it make how she got to this point?

[flpoljunkie]

26. One could wonder how it took her more than 35 years to 'find her voice.'

[hisownpetard]

44. Exactly. Made me wonder who I was really listening to when she spoke, all these years.

[MGKrebs]

50. Sure, if one didn't mind looking stupid and obsessed.

[Cha]

61. Yeah, too bad hillary lies.

articulately.. and endorses dirty campaigning so very articulately.

[jefferson_dem]

24. What exactly?

I hear this comment often. On what basis does Hillary claim the "experience" label? Silly sleight of hand...thinking nobody will notice.

[Evergreen Emerald]

28. Jefferson_dem. How many times have we posted her accomplishments

and you still come on here and play dumb. Dang.

[wyldwolf]

30. he's putting on a front for the new folks

[jefferson_dem]

35. Her "accomplishments"

do not equal the "experience" she and her supporters claim.

Padded resumes don't impress me.

[Evergreen Emerald]

38. Ok. Let's compare her experience with Obama's

Show us his resume, JD.

[Kolesar]

42. I have read all of your posts on this thread and you have said "about nothing"

You're just a "jump on the stack, Jack" activist

[Evergreen Emerald]

62. still waiting JD.

I see that you are unimpressed with Clinton's "padded resume" show us what experience impresses you.

[beachmom]

31. Yep. I agree with that article. Hillary certainly has an impressive

resume compared to most, but when we're talking President of the United States, it's no better than Edwards or Obama. In fact, it's fairly mediocre. Of course, the idea SEEMS to be that Bill will be "helping out", so she is implicitly running on Bill's experience, which makes me queasy.

[Major Hogwash]

43. Is she a New Yorker?

Or is she from Arkansas?

Or is she from Illinois?

She's claimed all 3 after all.

And yet she only moved to Arkansas after she was married to her husband.
After 20 years of living in the South, from '72 to '92, she considered herself a Southerner.
Now she considers herself a New Yorker, but I don't.

And then there's those 8 years she lived in Washington, D.C.

I consider Hillary to be the ultimate bureaucrat, willing to move at the drop of a hat just in order to stay in office.

Nevertheless, the very idea of Bill getting back in the White House has made people out here very nervous and I'm not just talking about Republicans.

[Barack_America]

46. That makes it even WORSE!

Do we really want our first Woman President to be elected with the assumption that her husband will help her because, "the little lady isn't experienced enough to handle it on her own"?? Are some people really voting for a third term for Bill?

Blech. (I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit)

[JTFrog]

34. She's been great so far at being duped by presidents.

Does that count as experience?

:shrug:

[Mutineer]

36. So does this mean I can claim the "experience"

of my partner the next time I apply for a job?

[Sparkly]

39. Wiki has a good bio.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_clinton

It's interesting to see what she did before she was First Lady -- even before she got married.

[livetohike]

54. Thanks for this Sparkly

It was interesting and I compared it to Geraldine Ferraro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geraldine_Ferraro

I have a cassette tape of the Ferraro/Bush debate. I can remember how proud I was to see a woman as a VP candidate :-).

[Barack_America]

45. Picking out power suits?.....

I mean, I don't want to discredit a woman's importance when her husband is an elected official, but...

-No security clearance
-No intelligence briefings

You can't argue she was going for maximal involvement there.

I mean, I'm sure that she had her pet charities and social programs. But, as for experience in the nitty-gritty reality of politics and policy...it doesn't look like she was exposed to that much at all.

[WillTheGoober]

47. Right ...

The female spouse is supposed to sit back and allow her husband to make all of the decisions. He's the man of the house and she should iron his clothes and cook for him. Any intrusion into her hubby's affairs are considered annoyances -- considered unwanted -- making her a "kibitzer."

This stinks of ridiculousness.

Hillary doesn't need a chronological listing of anything.
She has endured the abuse of Republican hate and disdain for decades and this is just more of the same for her.

This is a lady who is passionate about America's future -- about Health Care -- about Women and Children's rights. This is a woman who would fight with her husband over issues. This country has been dominated by men for so long that we can't see past it. We cannot imagine that any woman has influenced the direction of this country -- because until now, it's been done in the background.

I am proud that our country can produce a Hillary Clinton.
She is special and she gives me hope.

W.

[Barack_America]

49. But not having security clearance and not receiving intelligence reports...

Seriously limited her ability to experience the inner workings of policy decisions.

You cannot deny that.

"She is special and she gives me hope."

That's a really sweet statement, though.

[AtomicKitten]

48. At making change, silly.

Four quarters for a dollar.

[IndianaGreen]

51. Here is a chronology of Hillary Clinton's first term

March 2009 - National antiwar marches on the 6th anniversary of the start of the Iraq War.

October 2009 - National antiwar marches on the 7th anniversary of Iraq War Resolution.

March 2010 - National antiwar marches on the 7th anniversary of the start of the Iraq War.

October 2010 - National antiwar marches on the 8th anniversary of Iraq War Resolution.

March 2011 - National antiwar marches on the 8th anniversary of the start of the Iraq War.

October 2011 - National antiwar marches on the 9th anniversary of Iraq War Resolution.

March 2012 - National antiwar marches on the 9th anniversary of the start of the Iraq War.

October 2012 - National antiwar marches on the 10th anniversary of Iraq War Resolution.

[FrenchieCat]

56. But, but, but....

at least she loves LBJ.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

52. She has a lot of political experience in participating in campaigns

As the spouse of a candidate for Governor of Arkansas and two runs for the White House, she has been involved a great deal in politics. In America, a spouse seems to be as deeply involved in running for office as the candidate himself or herself, I think.

But as far as creating governing policy while in office is concerned, I'm not sure Hillary Clinton has any experience at all, beyond her years as a Senator. You would have to know how engaged she was in meeting with President Clinton's cabinet and his own policy-making decision processes to know for sure.

[Barack_America]

55. Oh we know she's good at campaigning. But experienced enough to run the country?

She has no more experience than the other candidates.

Experience in winning an office is not the same as experience running one.

[FrenchieCat]

59. Wow! How Presidential........

NOT!

[ursi]

60. time to retire. I'm tired of the old insiders in Congress too.

[GalleryGod]

65. She should return to that august,hallowed seat,as Senator from the Empire State

forthwith:argh:

[antigop]

63. She has lots of experience .....selling out American workers...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhLBSLLIhUs
Hillary pushes for more h1-b visas and outsourcing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLNOSGM2jK4
Lou Dobbs: Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgdrh2Bc95M
Lou Dobbs: Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 2)

[GalleryGod]

64. Well THIS guy had LESS experience than his opponents,too

and...BTW:

[Barack_America]

66. Why hasn't she gotten slammed yet for this "35 years of experience" myth?...

When I submit a resume, I have to detail exactly what I spent my time doing. I can't just say..."10 years working". This is ridiculous.

[Barack_America]

67. Still waiting for an answer about what she did to gain 35 yrs of experience...n/t

[Imagevision]

68. I anxious to see her return to new York and just use her experience there...!